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Rascal
12-18-2009, 04:48 PM
Hi,
at the first, no offence, but i prefer answer from certified judge - I need know this for sure and the last time.
I´m really bored about two main rullings explains - even on the tournament field.
E.G.: I attack with some of my creature AND I HAVE two Bridges on the yard. Opponent blocks by some of his or her creatures. Both creatures dies at the same time. Do I get two zombies because I am the controller of the triggered ability of Bridges so I can stack it to gain my two zombies, or are Bridges removed before I can get my tokens?
I know that this is quite noob qustion, but as I said, I hear too many explanations, that I need know the explecity and complete explanation to my future tourneys.
THX a lot in advance!!!
Maveric78f
12-18-2009, 04:58 PM
Not a judge but 100% sure you stack the triggered abilities as you want since you control all of them.
It's the same when you block, you still control both triggered abilities and you choose to get or not your zombies.
dorsch
12-18-2009, 07:11 PM
I am judge and i am 100% sure.
When creatures on both sides of the table die at the exact same time (e.g. Wrath or combat damage), each Bridge from Below puts one triggered ability for each of your creatures and one triggered ability for each of your opponent's creatures on the stack.
"Whenever a nontoken creature is put into your graveyard from the battlefield, if Bridge from Below is in your graveyard, put a 2/2 black Zombie creature token onto the battlefield."
and
"When a creature is put into an opponent's graveyard from the battlefield, if Bridge from Below is in your graveyard, exile Bridge from Below."
Since you are the controller of the Bridges' triggered abilities, you decide the exact order, in which those triggers are put onto the stack.
If 3 of your creatures and 2 of your opponent die at the same time, you have 2 Bridges in your graveyard and you know the rules explained in this post, you will get your choice of 0,1,2,3,4,5 or 6 zombie token.
edit:
603.3b If multiple abilities have triggered since the last time a player received priority, each player, in APNAP order, puts triggered abilities he or she controls on the stack in any order he or she chooses. [...]
edit2: because of RexFTW's post i want to add: All of my explanations apply only, if the creatures die at the exact same time
RexFTW
12-19-2009, 12:46 PM
I am judge and i am 100% sure.
When creatures on both sides of the table die at the exact same time (e.g. Wrath or combat damage), each Bridge from Below puts one triggered ability for each of your creatures and one triggered ability for each of your opponents' creatures on the stack.
"Whenever a nontoken creature is put into your graveyard from the battlefield, if Bridge from Below is in your graveyard, put a 2/2 black Zombie creature token onto the battlefield."
and
"When a creature is put into an opponent's graveyard from the battlefield, if Bridge from Below is in your graveyard, exile Bridge from Below."
Since you are the controller of the Bridges' triggered abilities, you decide the exact order, in which those triggers are put onto the stack.
If 3 of your creatures and 2 of your opponents' die at the same time, you have 2 Bridges in your graveyard and you know the rules explained in this post, you will get your choice of 0,1,2,3,4,5 or 6 zombie token.
edit:
603.3b If multiple abilities have triggered since the last time a player received priority, each player, in APNAP order, puts triggered abilities he or she controls on the stack in any order he or she chooses. [...]
I am a Judge and he is correct. The reason there is confusion is:
If you sacrifice a creature to say... cabal therapy then bridge trigger goes on the stack. Then your opponent sacrifices curse catcher then remove bridge trigger goes on the stack. Bridge is removed and then you do not get zombies.
mchainmail
12-19-2009, 02:41 PM
I am a Judge and he is correct. The reason there is confusion is:
If you sacrifice a creature to say... cabal therapy then bridge trigger goes on the stack. Then your opponent sacrifices curse catcher then remove bridge trigger goes on the stack. Bridge is removed and then you do not get zombies.
Bridge from below is a special case. With most cards, removing the source of an ability will not affect the ability. However, Bridge from Below has an intervening if clause that checks if Bridge from Below is still in the graveyard when the ability resolves.
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