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brianw712
12-23-2009, 01:49 PM
I'm wondering about the interaction between Tidal Warrior and Treetop Village, and I get really confused when I think about layering. What happens in the following situations:
1. I animate Treetop Village. In response, my opponent turns it into an island with Tidal Warrior.
2. My opponent turns Treetop Village into an island. In response, I animate it.
What properties does the Treetop Village have in each scenario after everything resolves?
Maveric78f
12-23-2009, 02:24 PM
It's a Green 3/3 Island créature in both cases. I'm less sure about trampling. I think it does not keep it, but I'd prefer to be confirmed.
yggdrasil
12-23-2009, 02:52 PM
I'm wondering about the interaction between Tidal Warrior and Treetop Village, and I get really confused when I think about layering. What happens in the following situations:
1. I animate Treetop Village. In response, my opponent turns it into an island with Tidal Warrior.
2. My opponent turns Treetop Village into an island. In response, I animate it.
What properties does the Treetop Village have in each scenario after everything resolves?
Well, lets see where all the continuous effects are placed in the Layer System:
"becomes an Island" Type Changing, 4
"becomes 3/3" P/T Changing, 7
"green", color changing, 5
"becomes an Ape creature (still a land)", type chaning, 4
"with trample", ability changing, 6
Here we see that the only things that are in the same Layer are the Type changing effects. So we apply timestamp to them, but it doesn't really matter since "becomes an Island" would only remove existing Land types, not other subtypes. So we will in both cases get a green colored
Land Creature - Ape Island
3/3
Trample
Why does it have trample but no other abilities? Gaining a Basic Land Type like in this case removes all abilities inherent to the card at the same point in the Layer System where the Land Type Change happens. So adding trample will always be after removing all abilities.
brianw712
12-23-2009, 04:33 PM
Ok, thanks
(nameless one)
12-23-2009, 04:40 PM
So on that scenario, is it being targetted by Tidal Warrior before or after the activation of Treetop Village?
Can you turn the Treetop Village into an Island to prevent its activation?
Valtrix
12-23-2009, 07:16 PM
As was mentioned earlier in this thread the order does not matter. You cannot turn the village into an island to prevent activation.
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