[Tournament] January 24, 2010 Los Angeles, CA Knight Ware Inc. 20x Duals

[Krieg]

Knight Ware Inc in Studio City, CA is holding a Sanctioned Legacy Tournament
on Sunday January 24, 2010

Entry Fee $20

Phil has agreed to Head Judge

Prize Pool to pick from
(I will list current card condition, If I can get others, I may be able to improve on condition)


2x Badlands both revised, nm-/ex+ and ex/ex+
2x Bayou both unlimited, both fine
2x Plateau both revised, nm- and fine
2x Savannah both revised, ex-/fine+ and good
2x Scrubland both revised and ex
2x Taiga both revised, ex and ex/ex-
2x Tropical Island both revised, both nm
2x Tundra 1 unlimited ex/ex+, 1 revised ex
2x Underground Sea both revised, nm- and ex but slight horizontal warping
2x Volcanic Island both revised, ex+ and ex+/ex

Prizes will be based on attendance
8-16 people prizes to top 4
17-20 people prizes to top 6
21-27 people prizes to top 8
28+ top 9
32+ top 10 or top 9 and one random, not sure yet

40+ players, I’ll find something else to give away

48 player max (after that I run out of chairs/tables)


Where
Knight Ware Inc.
3709 Cahuenga Blvd. West
Studio City, CA. 91604
(818) 769-7830
http://www.knight-ware.com

When
Sunday January 24, 2010
Registration begins when we open at 11 am,
come early, fill out a decklist and play some casual games
Tournament at 2 PM
Entry Fee $20
Decklists Required

Format:
Sanctioned Legacy constructed -
8 players, swiss, 3 rounds no cut
9-16 players 4 rounds cut T4
17-32 players, 5 rounds cut T8
33+ players 6 rounds cut T8
first place, first pick, second place, second pick and so on
DCI reporter standings just prior to the cut will be used to determine 3rd/4th and 5th-8th

Parking
Parking is the main reason most of our larger events are on Sundays
Behind the store there are numberd spaces.
Knight Ware has spaces 9, 10, and 11
but
on sundays, our neighbors are usually closed

The streets are metered but not checked on sundays
The first street to the west of us is Lankersheim Blvd..
On Lakersheim to the south there is unregulated street parking
Just west of Lankersheim (north side of the street) is an open lot that says
additional MTA parking. It does not get used much on the weekends
unless the hollywood bowl is running something and then there will be signs

[badjuju]

Let's do this.

[Sure]

Sorry for not attending the last one!

My group (Brea) will be there so expect +8 players and a diverse meta.

[Antonius]

Yerp!

[Brizzle]

Sorry for not attending the last one!

My group (Brea) will be there so expect +8 players and a diverse meta.
I'm expecting you guys to win more Duals for me...:wink:

[Krieg]

this sunday

who else is coming

[tgDC$]

Bringing at least 4 people with me to this one

[keys]

i'm bringing myself

[Krieg]

So I moved a couple things and put in another table.

Attendance was 50, thanks much to all for your support.
I added another pair of scrublands and another Underground Sea
to the prize pool.

prizes to the top 10 and 2 randoms (have to play for 5 rounds for
random elegibility)

We are currently in round 2,
I will get winners/deck lists up in a couple days, might post pics also if anyone is interested.

[ReverentChastity]

Both judges ruled that a morph spell on the stack was CMC 3, and I insisted it was 0. I had a land on top with CB, what gives :eyebrow:

702.34b To cast a card using its morph ability, turn it face down. It becomes a 2/2 face-down creature card, with no text, no name, no subtypes, no expansion symbol, and no mana cost. Any effects or prohibitions that would apply to casting a card with these characteristics (and not the face-up card's characteristics) are applied to casting this card. These values are the copiable values of that object's characteristics. (See rule 613, "Interaction of Continuous Effects," and rule 706, "Copying Objects.") Put it onto the stack (as a face-down spell with the same characteristics), and pay {3} rather than pay its mana cost. This follows the rules for paying alternative costs. You can use morph to cast a card from any zone from which you could normally play it. When the spell resolves, it enters the battlefield with the same characteristics the spell had. The morph effect applies to the face-down object wherever it is, and it ends when the permanent is turned face up.

And right off the Gatherer on Trinisphere Rulings:
Casting a creature with morph face down already costs three mana, even though the converted mana cost of the face-down spell is zero, so Trinisphere normally doesn't modify the total cost of a face-down creature spell. However, if Dream Chisel is reducing that cost while Trinisphere is on the battlefield, you'll still have to pay three mana for the spell.

[Droxis]

ENCHANTRESS AAAAAAAAAAAA *explode*

[keys]

Does this turnout mean we can expect future weekly Legacy events?

Also, T8 decklists available?

[2Rach]

Does this turnout mean we can expect future weekly Legacy events?

Also, T8 decklists available?
Would be nice. EDIT: And much thanks to Lori for hosting these tournaments.


Here's a really bad tournament report: (posted in the Eva Green thread too)


Just split 1st in a 50 man 2-of-each-Dual tournament at Knight-ware. I went 4-1-ID in the swiss.

I played this list:
Creatures: 16
4x Tarmogoyf
3x Nantuko Shade
2x Gatekeeper of Malakir
4x Vampire Nighthawk
3x Tombstalker

Other Spells: 23
4x Thoughtseize
4x Dark Ritual
4x Hymn to Tourach
4x Sinkhole
1x Umezawa's Jitte
3x Maelstrom Pulse
3x Snuff Out

Lands: 21
4x Bayou
4x Wasteland
4x Polluted Delta
4x Verdant Catacombs
4x Swamp
1x Forest

Sideboard:
4x Leyline of the Void
3x Pernicious Deed
3x Choke
2x Krosan Grip
2x Perish
1x Umezawa's Jitte


Round 1: I beat Rb goblins 2-0. I got very lucky. He tends to draw a lot of mana sources when he plays me.
Round 2: I beat BGW Survival Rock 2-1. Game 1 he gets Loyal Retainer into Iona. Game 2 he keeps a 1 Forest/2 Birds hand with Survival and Goyf and other stuff but I have 3 Maelstrom Pulses. Game 3 all I can remember was that Perish wiped a needed Birds and an Eternal Witness while my Nighthawk flew over before that.
Round 3: Lost to Dredge 0-2 due to play mistakes. Second game I didn't keep a Ritual for a later bounced Leyline and didn't draw lands to replay it. Also, I had Nighthawk on the field with him at 4 life. I thought Iona has first strike along with the flying so I didn't attack into her to win or kill Iona. RTFC
Round 4: Beat Dreadstill 2-1. Don't remember much except making a really bad play mistake. He had relatively little business and I was beating down early with a Shade and pumped it during an attack when he animated a Mishra's Factory, blocked and boosted itself while I had a Snuff in hand. I got distracted with the match to my left and the second I said "okay" to the damage step I realized my idiocy. Went on to win the game, which I think was game 1.
Round 5: Beat ProElves 2-1. Keep a 2 Wasteland/creature-heavy hand game 1 and lose to Prog. Games 2/3: Perish is awesome.
Round 6: Standings go up showing me in 3rd, I get paired against 1st and we ID.

Top 8:

(not in order)
White Stax
Enchantress
Eva Green (myself)
Aggro Loam
UBr Blossom/Sprite/Stalker w/ Blightning
Rb Goblins
2 I don't know


Quarters: The same Rb goblins gets in. I roll 3 dice getting 6/6/6 but he trounces me as he should in game 1. Seeing as the devil's on my side, the next 2 games I get lucky as I did in round 1. Though he sided out his sideboard Smothers against me for more bodies which seems bad in my opinion. The last tournament I played him as Mono-R and got lucky there too.

Semis: Aggro-loam. Beat him 2-0. First game we go back and forth and the field builds up with a 6/6 Terravore and Dark Con while I have 2 5/6 Goys maybe a Nighthawk and a Tombstalker while he's at 7 and gets another Conf off the top to take him to 5 for my Stalker. Something fun to note, game 2 he got Countryside Crusher turn 3 and then proceeded to go through 10 lands the next turn. Vampire Nighthawk saves my ass by stalling until I get a Pulse to destroy 2 Crushers. (He didn't see Pulse in the first game)

Finals: Split with Dragon Stompy. Played it out at Subway afterward for whoever gets the NM Underground Sea(Other was Exc). We both ended up with an Underground Sea and a Tropical Island. Game 1 I get time to fetch for basics and have enough removal. Game 2 I get 2 swamps and a forest in hand and get the game under control but he topdecks a Rakdos Pit Dragon and I can't draw removal while I chump with Nighthawk and Stalker and a second Stalker sits in my hand. Game 3 I don't remember, but I won this one for the better Usea.



Comments about my choices:
Vampire Nighthawk: better than sliced bread. Much better than Hypnotic Specter, especially in this meta.
Gatekeeper of Malakir: Not as good as sliced bread, but still more testing is to be done.
Nantuko Shade: It's not what's ideal but it's the best big beater next to Tarmogoyf and Tombstalker, a necessary evil imo.
Umezawa's Jitte: Never saw it except in a game against Dragon Stompy topdecking it to kill his Jitte.
Maelstrom Pulse: I won't leave home without it. Has saved me ****TONS of times.
Tombstalker at 3: Works much better for me at 3 than 4. Clogs my hand otherwise.
Forest: Better than previously tested. Helped me against Loam and Dragon Stompy. There were a lot of Stax and Wasteland+recursion lists in the tournament so I swapped Mires and a swamp for Catacombs and a forest right before the tournament. Didn't clash with my cards as much as it did in testing but there was 1 hand I mulled because Wasteland+forest, especially with no goyfs in hand, doesn't get there.

SB:
Deed, Perish, and Choke continue to be all-stars.
Krosan Grips I rarely sideboarded in and rarely drew them. Thinking of replacing with Duresses, Engineered Plagues, or Jitte and Perish.
Leyline of the Void: An experienced Dredge player friend says this is best. If it weren't for my mistakes I probably would have won the game. Sticking with it for now.

[Krieg]

Ok, so here are the results


Decklists here (http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/showthread.php?8090-Top-8-Decklists&p=422935&viewfull=1#post422935)


1/2 Christopher Dao (Dragon Stompy) got 1 Underground Sea and 1 Tropical Island
1/2 Shai Shaham (Eva Green) got 1 Underground Sea and 1 Tropical Island
3rd Eric Smith (Tempo Fae) got 2 Tundra
4th Eric Staffa (RGb Aggro Loam) got 2 Volcanic Island
5th Jin Hong (Enchantress) got 2 Bayou
6th Derrick Cabrera (TES) got 2 Taiga
7th Patrick Henry (Goblins) got 2 Badlands
8th Sherwin Pu (Staxless Stax) got 2 Savannahs
9th Max Zhang got 2 Plateaus
10th Anthony Soliz got 1 Underground Sea
Random #1 John Harduvel got 2 Scrublands
Random #2 Jacob Faturechi got 2 Scrublands

If I can convince a Judge to Judge, we will have goyfs in march

as for weekly, I am ok with it but many that I talked to indicated that it was a bit of a drive
and they wanted prizes to justify that.

We tried weekly in the past and after a couple months, there were just a couple people showing up and then none.

I am doing casual day last sunday in Feb, bring your EDH and your trade binders

Brant took a bunch of pictures of the first couple rounds, might post some later if there is interest.

thanks again,

Lori

[Antonius]

I played African Stax and went 3-2-1. I went 1-1 with Enchantress decks (there were like 4 people playing it!), lost to Goblins and drew with White Stax. I didn't do enough prep for the goblin matchup. Its hard to dominate someone that runs basics.

[keys]

Only one blue deck in the T8 is very interesting

thanks!

[badjuju]

Grats on the finishes.

Harduvel is a sack.

And yes, I would like to see pictures should you find time to upload them!

[saspook]

Both judges ruled that a morph spell on the stack was CMC 3, and I insisted it was 0. I had a land on top with CB, what gives :eyebrow:

702.34b

And right off the Gatherer on Trinisphere Rulings:


Yeah, I got that one wrong, it is hard to get them all right.

But to say you "insisted" to me that it was 0 is also wrong. You can always ask me to look it up. I may deny that request if it is really busy, but if you had asked yesterday, we might not have this conversation today. (And there wasn't even a trinisphere in play)

Thank you for coming, and I hope that that ruling did not cost you that game.

[Krieg]

pics

Round 1

Back of the store
http://www.knight-ware.com/ back1_72.JPG

http://www.knight-ware.com/back2_72.JPG

http://www.knight-ware.com/back3_72.JPG

http://www.knight-ware.com/back4_72.JPG

http://www.knight-ware.com/back5_72.JPG


middleof the store
http://www.knight-ware.com/middle1.JPG

http://www.knight-ware.com/middle2.JPG


front of the store
http://www.knight-ware.com/front1.JPG

http://www.knight-ware.com/front2.JPG

http://www.knight-ware.com/front3.JPG

[ReverentChastity]

Thank you for coming, and I hope that that ruling did not cost you that game.

I don't think it did, and I didn't know I could appeal to look it up, I was really sure it was 0 and I said to one of the judges "I'm really positive it's zero" and just got an "It's 3" and everyone else seemed to be convinced it was 3 as well. Just to make sure it didn't change or I wasn't understanding something is why I just used that ruling on Trinisphere there as an example. It's all good though.