tyleredw
12-27-2009, 03:51 AM
So i came across this scenario on MWS today, and I think the bulk of my confusion comes from my inexperiance in dealing with both morph creatures and shapeshifters due to their lack of play in actual decks.
Anyway, here's the scenario:
His board:
Some lands
Noble Hierarch
Vesuvan Shapeshifter (face down)
My board:
Some lands
Noble Hierarch
Rhox War Monk
It's his attack phase, and he declares an attack with just his morph creature. Exalted triggers when he declares it as an attacker and the morph creature becomes a 3/3. We move to declare blockers, and i declare no blocks. At this point, he pays the 1U to flip his shapeshifter, and chooses to copy my Rhox War Monk. I have no responses to any of this, and in his view, the Shapeshifter is a 4/5 due to the exalted, and i take 4 damage.
I just took his word for it, since arguing on MWS is a complete and utter waste of time, but my first impression of the scenario was that the shapeshifter doesn't keep the exalted boost, and when he chooses to copy my War Monk, it just becomes a 3/4 and i would take only 3 damage. My reasoning was that the exalted triggered on a 2/2, and when he copies my creature, it overwrites its power/toughness on the card at the time and makes it to be that of my creature at the time.
Who's right?
Anyway, here's the scenario:
His board:
Some lands
Noble Hierarch
Vesuvan Shapeshifter (face down)
My board:
Some lands
Noble Hierarch
Rhox War Monk
It's his attack phase, and he declares an attack with just his morph creature. Exalted triggers when he declares it as an attacker and the morph creature becomes a 3/3. We move to declare blockers, and i declare no blocks. At this point, he pays the 1U to flip his shapeshifter, and chooses to copy my Rhox War Monk. I have no responses to any of this, and in his view, the Shapeshifter is a 4/5 due to the exalted, and i take 4 damage.
I just took his word for it, since arguing on MWS is a complete and utter waste of time, but my first impression of the scenario was that the shapeshifter doesn't keep the exalted boost, and when he chooses to copy my War Monk, it just becomes a 3/4 and i would take only 3 damage. My reasoning was that the exalted triggered on a 2/2, and when he copies my creature, it overwrites its power/toughness on the card at the time and makes it to be that of my creature at the time.
Who's right?