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bokepa
01-12-2010, 10:45 AM
This is what im working on right now.Any suggestions or improvements?

3 Flagstones of trokair
4 Savanah
4 Horizon Canopy
4 Windsteaph Heath
4 Wasteland
1 Plains
1 Forest
4 Nantuko Monastery

2 Jotun Grunt
4 Tarmo
3 Kitchen Finks
3 Knight of the Reliquary
4 Qasali Pridemage

3 Armageddon
4 Mox Diamond
3 Crucible of wolrds
3 Ghostly Prision
2 Aura of silence
4 Chalice of the void


SB (not tested):
3x Oblivion ring
3x Gaddock Tegg
3x Relic of progenitus
3x Armadillo Cloack
3x Thorn of Amethyst
Explanation of the deck:

The concept is simple, your creatures get huge advantage when cast creatures, drop a diruption piece and clean the lands. You will get the upper hand and smash the opponent while he recovers.

(% are theoric as i dont have enought data with this new list yet)
vs Zoo: 55%
Armageddon makes their threats ridicosly small, be aware of their burn tho. If you get selfconfident and go slow they will draw enough burn to kill you. Anyway with Kitchen Finks and all the disruption the deck packs, its favorable.

vs Goblins: 50%
Their manadenial pack can be problematic also 1st turn lackey hurts a lot. If they go fast you will get stomped but if you manage to cast Ghostly prision or some creatures to stall your chances to win go high. Mono red builds are much harder than ones splashing black.

vs Ichorid 55%
3 Ghostly prision md, and 4 qasalis and makes this matchup favorable, however not for a great marge as they are lists that are incredibly fast and you will not always draw the hate you need.

vs ANT: 45%
They have to combo turn 1 or 2. Turn 3 you will have chalice or aura of silence wich will problably stop em. Dont be afraid to drop chalice for 0. 4 dead cards are nothing if you can win the match.

vs Belcher 32%
They are too fast for this deck unless you cast chalice turn 1. It they go Etw your chances to win skyrocket.

Maveric78f
01-12-2010, 10:51 AM
vs Zoo: 55%
vs Goblins: 50%
vs Ichorid 55%
vs ANT: 30%
vs Belcher 30%
Just explain us why we should play this deck or nobody will ever pay attention to your list.

bokepa
01-14-2010, 04:25 AM
The initial list was an autoloss to combo so the deck got some changes. Updated the first post with the new list.

The changes were:
-3 Day of Judgement
-3 Knight of the holy mimbus
-2 Jitte
-4 StoP

+4 Tarmo
+2 Aura of silence
+1 Ghostly prision
+1 Crucible of worlds
+4 Chalice of the void



I only lost to enchantress with the new list, and problably was a play mistake. Will update % when i got more data.

Tao
01-14-2010, 05:22 AM
I don't see any reason to play so much Mana. 25 lands + 4 Chrome Moxes are way too much. Chrome Moxes are an independant Mana source and I don't think your deck needs more than 25 or 26, and that is already quite high. You can easily cut 3 Nantuko Monasteries, it becomes active very late and can be tutored by KotR.

This gives you a few free cards. First of all play 4 KotR and 4 Armageddon, those are the best card in your deck and you want them always. You might also want a 4th Crucible to make sure you have one, like with Geddon drawing multiples is better than drawing none.

Also there is no reason to maindeck Aura of Silence when Oblivion Ring is in the format.

Another thing to think about is to use Trinisphere instead of Chalice as the lock component. It would lock the opponent after a Geddon and allow you to play Noble Hierarch and Swords to Plowshares, both are great cards and Hierarch is good with Geddon.

bokepa
01-14-2010, 07:08 AM
I don't see any reason to play so much Mana. 25 lands + 4 Chrome Moxes are way too much. Chrome Moxes are an independant Mana source and I don't think your deck needs more than 25 or 26, and that is already quite high. You can easily cut 3 Nantuko Monasteries, it becomes active very late and can be tutored by KotR.

This gives you a few free cards. First of all play 4 KotR and 4 Armageddon, those are the best card in your deck and you want them always. You might also want a 4th Crucible to make sure you have one, like with Geddon drawing multiples is better than drawing none.

Also there is no reason to maindeck Aura of Silence when Oblivion Ring is in the format.

Another thing to think about is to use Trinisphere instead of Chalice as the lock component. It would lock the opponent after a Geddon and allow you to play Noble Hierarch and Swords to Plowshares, both are great cards and Hierarch is good with Geddon.


Sorry, chrome mox is in reality Mox diamond, thats why i play 25 lands. Updated list.

Maybe 4 Nantuko are too much 2 can be enough and add 1 tabernacle and a maze of ith for board control

I dont like 4 cruicbles main deck. They are great in the deck and help to wastelock, perma draw, and get nantuko permablock, but you can win without it. The deck is first agroo and then disruption. Crucible its more like a late game plan. Also drawing multiples is bad. I dont care casting a geddon without crucible if tarmo and knight are gonna kill my opp anyway. 3 is enough to see them during games. Even 2 could work as i will draw more lands than my opponent to recover faster.

Don't subestimate Aura of Silence. It stops combo, wich oblivion ring isnt capable of doing. It has stopped dream halls and ANT more than once game1. And its tax effect with geddon does wonder. Its great vs ANT, Dreamhalls, Countertop, Enchantress, Staxx, MUC... And its never dead as i can't think about any deck with out any ench or artifact that is not the burn one.

I like your suggestion of trinisphere. It will make me one turn slower against combo but much more disruptive against a lot of decks. Don't know if i could afford that turn tho. Will have to try but i think it will be too slow with out the double mana lands.

What should be the changes?

-4 Chalice of the void
-2 Jotun
-2 Finks

+3 Trinisphere
+4 NH
+1 Armageddon

I dont think i have room to include StoP, and i dont think they are needed. Planeswalker are much more problematic than creatures in this deck and thats why Oring is on sideboard.

The deck mulligans a bit more than desired but it havent been an issue so far.