[SCD] Moat

[wmagzoo7]

So the card has been around forever, but I feel like it could definitely be played a lot more than it currently is especially how good it would be in the format. The card has been discussed in the context of decks such as Armageddon Stax, and is played in some Enchantress decks, but usually as a 1-2 of at most. If protected in something similar to The Deck of years past I feel that Moat could end games pretty resoundingly against a lot of top decks in the format. The metagame has changed somewhat because some decks cannot beat the card Game1, and decks that used to run answers like Trygon Predator or Krosan Grip are dropping those cards for things like Natural Order Progenitus which are better against aggressive decks which seem to be gaining more popularity. Basically, Moat would stop many aggro or midrange decks right in their tracks if resolved specifically Merfolk and Tempo Threshold, as well as slowing down many other decks and making many of their threats useless.

[Meister_Kai]

Sorry to say so little, but the only decks that can really play Moat already do. Landstill esque "the deck" strategies have been somewhat invalidated for the time being. I can't think of anything else to say about the card.

Sorry, but I don't see this discussion going anywhere.

[Illissius]

The card you're forgetting is called Qasali Pridemage. I'd be more interested in Humility.

[Cthuloo]

I partially agree with the OP, in the sense that I think Moat is underplayed, but I'm not sure that Keeper/Landstill-esque lists are the best candidates to abuse it.

I think something like UBW faerie can abuse it better, playing an air attack force. Something like:

3 Tombstalker
3 Vendilion Clique
4 Bitterblossom
4 Spellstutter Sprite

and some jitte, maybe. The issue is if this deck could easily support the double white for Moat, in addition to the double black for 'stalker and the double blue for Clique. Maybe the right way to go could be to drop the 'stalkers and go straight for tribal sinergy with Scion of Oona.

[Skeggi]

If your meta has alot of Merfolk and Goblins, Moat is definately worth looking into. If you meta has alot of Qasali Pridemages, Humility is the card you seek. Whichever you chose, they should probably be accompanied by Elspeth. But one doesn't exclude the other. Moat/Humility/Elspeth can all function very well in one deck. The obvious problem is the high manacost.

[Barook]

I'm currently working on a variant of Angel Stompy which uses Enlightened Tutor and Moat, among other things. From what I've seen so far, Moat can be amazing once resolved against decks like Goblins or Merfolk, but many other decks in the format have maindeck answers against it, don't care about it (e.g. Combo) or have decent flyers themselves. I would say it's a decent card in the right strategy to stall your opponent, but it's very far away from being autowin.

[FoolofaTook]

Moat + Sterling Grove to tutor up other stuff or topdeck stuff for Counterbalance. Been there, done that, it's a .500 deck in the current meta and loses to blue control.

[alphastorm]

I prefer humility over moat. moat loses to trygon predator, qasali pridemage etc... If you're afraid of a group of 1/1 creatures then your deck isn't competitive enough for this format.

[Eldariel]

Humility is indeed most likely superior; it also wrecks Goblins much like Moat does (instead of removing attack, it removes all CiPT abilities and SGC win), and does a number to anything playing creatures, really. Indeed, Humility really premiered in the reign of Goblins as a means to defeat their long game. Before then, Goblins invariably won the war of attrition, but Humility shifted the paradigm so that Goblins instead needed to play the aggro-plan with mana denial to keep the control-deck off Humility for long enough to win.

[abbeyroad]

I don't find humility and moat to be mutually exclusive. I don't see why we can't just create a legacy parfait deck that uses a combination of moats and humilities to bring creatures to a screeching halt - though i suppose they (wizards) would have to unban land tax for this to work out, but i think that land tax is a probable candidate for unbanning.

[Illissius]

Unless you're running Dutch Stax, there's only so many cards at :2::w::w: you can reasonably include in a deck.

[alphastorm]

Unless you're running Dutch Stax, there's only so many cards at :2::w::w: you can reasonably include in a deck.

Since you are playing white, you can reasonably add in 4 Enlightened Tutors and play a single copy of Moat and Humility. Even with this option, I'd rather just drop the moat and stick with one humility and save the other spot for something better.