Are you in favor of reprinting Legacy staples in premium releases?

[kicks_422]

As an offshoot of the Price of Cardboard thread here, I started this poll to gauge just how true the "player backlash" theory is if Legacy staples were reprinted. This is more of a general, innocent inquiry than a scientific approach, but I (as well as a few others, I'm sure) just find it interesting to know what the results of this poll would be, at least for this forum. It's better to have a small, authentic sample than to base everything off of theories, right?

Now obviously if Wizards would reprint Legacy staples, it would be in a premium release e.g. FTV: Legacy. Foiled? Maybe, maybe not. The main cards in this scenario would be the getting-harder-to-find ones, most notably the original dual lands, and probably other Legacy staples such as Force of Will, Lion's Eye Diamond, etc. Nothing's really set in stone. However, the main issue here is that, according to economic theory, the prices of the original pieces of cardboard would go down due to an increased supply in the market.

So, here's the poll question: If Legacy staples are reprinted in a premium release, would you welcome it even though the prices of the cards you own would go down? Or would you, true to the player backlash assumption, get pissed off and maybe even quit the game? No middlers please... Either you'd like it or you'd hate it.

Discussions of the issue itself should probably be kept to the other thread. Reasonings on voting for either choice in the poll are welcome here though.

[Phoenix Ignition]

No middlers please... Either you'd like it or you'd hate it.
Only Sith deal in absolutes.

Of all the stupid polls , this is one of the worst. You can't reasonably assume that the majority of people have polarized views on this subject. The vast majority of people probably don't care, and the vast majority of people are the ones who WotC will care about pleasing.

I for one don't care at all. I own pretty much 1 playset of every playable card in magic, or 1-of all the expensive cards (retainers, tabernacle, etc.). If they want to reprint cards that's fine with me. Chances are there wouldn't be enough to tank my card prices (original fetchlands are still about the same price, even though Zendikar effectively doubled the amount of duals that can be played). Even if my card prices do drop some, I've had all of them for at least 2 years except the very newest Legacy-playables, and to see a huge increase in both attendence and prizes at tournaments would be awesome. Having multiple Legacy GPs on each Magic playing continent would be awesome!

[Afro]

I am all for the reprint of Legacy staples. I have sold and rebuilt my magic collection three times now. I am currently in the process of reacquiring things like dual lands, fetches, and goyfs. All the increased prices have done is caused me to spend more money as things are so insanely expensive I figure why am I spending this much money on a single Savannah when I can just spend some more and get a semi beat Beta (or foil) when available.

Premium foils such as those found in the FTV are not even playable in tournaments as far as I can tell because the bend is so horrendous I can cut to them with amazing accuracy. Not only that but if they go the foil promo route, those things will be so expensive that it will do little to lower the cost of said cards.

[Anusien]

Should have more options like
"Yes but only cards I don't own"

Or
"Yes and I have Forces/Goyf/duals/fetches"
"Yes and I don't"
"No and I have Forces/Goyf/duals/fetche"
"No and I don't"

[mujadaddy]

Should have more options like
"Yes but only cards I don't own"

Or
"Yes and I have Forces/Goyf/duals/fetches"
"Yes and I don't"
"No and I have Forces/Goyf/duals/fetche"
"No and I don't"

Truth, there.
If Legacy staples are reprinted in a premium release, would you welcome it even though the prices of the cards you own would go down? Or would you, true to the player backlash assumption, get pissed off and maybe even quit the game?I don't want them reprinted, and I own ZERO cards right now.

If they reprinted them, the price of the old cards wouldn't go down much, IF AT ALL, and the new cards would be ridiculous chase-rare prices anyway.

Old Legacy Staples should be safe but rare.

[kicks_422]

Well, if you don't care about it, then just don't vote, right? I also thought of what you said Anusien, but it just kind of makes it too complicated for a simple, harmless exercise. E.g. I have 4 Goyfs, but no Fows; I need some cards to complete playsets, etc.

[Forbiddian]

You can't reasonably assume that the majority of people have polarized views on this subject. The vast majority of people probably don't care, and the vast majority of people are the ones who WotC will care about pleasing.



What the fuck? If they don't care, then they won't be pleased or displeased and Wizards can do whatever. That doesn't make any sense, "Because most people don't care, Wizards shouldn't listen to the people who do care."

That said, the real issue is that the people who don't want reprints might quit over it if there are reprints (and the people who would quit would be bulk buyers/investers, not just some one-draft-a-month player), but for the people who do want reprints it's not that big a deal and probably won't lead them to buying that much more card stock. At best the players move to Legacy from another format (which isn't really a plus for Wizards). I doubt very many people not playing ANY Magic right now will start playing because LEGACY is cheaper. It will still be more expensive in terms of startup cost than block, standard, limited, and extended even with reprints of all the Legacy staples.

The people engrained in Legacy keep up with Magic and keep buying card stock, but their rate of purchase won't change much if Legacy staples are a bit cheaper.


Legacy is the most fun format, and I'd really like to see more people play it. Anything that might make Legacy more popular, in my eyes, is a good thing, even if my playsets of dual lands are a bit devalued.

[Fatestitcher]

Just reprint them all including Dual lands, Tarmogoyf, Mana Drain, Mishra's Workshop, Bazaar of Baghdad, The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale even though not type 2 legal. I like them WHITE BORDERED.

Cards that should not be reprinted are Power 9 and Force of Will.

[Volt]

Legacy is the most fun format, and I'd really like to see more people play it. Anything that might make Legacy more popular, in my eyes, is a good thing, even if my playsets of dual lands are a bit devalued.

Agreed, as long as "a bit devalued" is all we're talking about. Thing is, I just don't see how reprinting them in "premium releases" would make sense for Wizards, unless they set the MSRP really, really high. On the other hand, reprinting them in the next core set would cause the values to plummet.

[kicks_422]

Perhaps their "hidden treasures" fiasco in Zendikar block was a way to gauge the players' reaction to having these old cards re-introduced to the market? I remember that it was accepted very well. I don't know how they'd do it again though.

[DrJones]

Just reprint them all including Dual lands, Tarmogoyf, Mana Drain, Mishra's Workshop, Bazaar of Baghdad, The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale even though not type 2 legal. I like them WHITE BORDERED.

Cards that should not be reprinted are Power 9 and Force of Will.Any reasoning to justify that exception?

I support white bordered reprints with the McDonalds logo as expansion symbol, as foreseen in that old misetings article.

[Sims]

I voted no to premium release. I would love to see the staples reprinted, even if it was a chronicles 2, white bordered, new framed set that was not standard legal..... I do not want a FTV: Legacy. There wouldn't be enough, they'd be ungodly expensive (think 100 each for current FTV is a lot? try FTV Duals)... and I don't want them foiled. If they reprinted them in a core set or expansion, fine, but I don't want my only choice for a "reasonabl priced" dual to end up being foil because I don't play foils in my Legacy decks, only in EDH.

[socialite]

Personally I think part of the attraction of playing Eternal formats is the scarcity of the card pool.

I want to play an older more broken format with players who are subsequently older, more mature, and have enjoyed the game since the beginning. I haven't clung onto Magic: The Gathering for the past ~13 years to play in an environment like standard.

This pole is pointless it needs more choices as individuals are going to vote based on the investment they have in the game. I realize eternal formats lack a robust player base and reprinting a ton of cards might help that but in reality it is a collectible card game.

I think I would quit if I saw my entire collection one which I spent years accumulating during high school, college, clinical rotations go down the drain so a few whiners can flood a format they really won't put any effort into. I emphasized those 3 points in my life because they span 9 years all of which I had to save and scrape any free money to build my collection.

People who support a 39.99 MSRP Premium Foil Box that would get people to where I am today can blow me.

Just being honest.

[Matt Blackburn]

I think I would quit if I saw my entire collection one which I spent years accumulating during high school, college, clinical rotations go down the drain so a few whiners can flood a format they really won't put any effort into. I emphasized those 3 points in my life because they span 9 years all of which I had to save and scrape any free money to build my collection.

People who support a 39.99 MSRP Premium Foil Box that would get people to where I am today can blow me.


yeah, but like some other guy in some other thread said he wouldnt care if his collection tanked just so we could have more players. so like we all shouldnt, or something. wtf, how dare you. I demand wotc make magic into a a tcg isntead of a ccg right now. reprint power so we can all play the same 3-4 vintage decks in standard.

[Fatestitcher]

Any reasoning to justify that exception?

Why they were called "Powers" is reason enough, these cards are forever restricted anyway and i call them the "ancestor cards" of the game. MTG as we know it now would not have gained grounds without these cards and it somehow owes its reputation to these 9 peices of cardboards.

I've been on and off Magic since `99 and I too would not want my collection to lose value but have you seen the value of these cards lately (Tarmogoyf, Mana Drain, Mishra's Workshop, Bazaar of Baghdad, The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale). If they sell by the ounce, they'd be one of the finest grade of coke available.

I say reprint them in WHITE BORDERED, NEW FRAMED set, just so more people can still enjoy playing them without forsaking their mortgages. The format should not not be gauged by how deep a player's pocket is, but how creative or imaginative he or she is.

edit: Force of Will is a 10th power LOL.

[Broham]

I've been playing on and off since the beginning and I honestly have no interest whatsoever in selling my collection. That being said, the secondary market value of my cards means nothing to me.

I would have no problem with Wizards reprinting some of the cards in a FTV box set. I think the premium releases have gone over very well with everybody (aside from the poor foil job on the cards; that will probably get fixed soon), and a Legacy themed box set would help draw in more players. More players means more tourneys and we all want that I would think.

However, I'm not cool with them reprinting all the "staple" cards. I think the duals (especially) and most the other super powerful cards should stay safe, not because of their monetary value, but because their rarity breeds innovation in deck construction. To me that is the beauty of this format. I have tons of old cards, and I feel that I can be very competitive even though I do no have play sets of FoWs and Tarmos. To me, this is the best format, because it is the only one that I believe truly envelopes the spirit of the game. With some tweaking and elbow grease you can make your favorite casual deck competitive, at least at your local comic shop which is enough for me and many others I am sure. I am all for them reprinting some good uncommons like maybe Wasteland, Swords to Plowshares, Chain Lightning, etc.

[TheAardvark]

Well, I voted yes, but that's because I can't read; I missed the "premium" bit. I don't agree with that unless it's going to be a printing of something like 10x the number of FTV or more, because it wouldn't help nearly as much as it could or should.

[rooneg]

Honestly, speaking as someone who's dropped hundreds of dollars on duals/fetches/goyfs/etc in the past few months while getting back into magic after a decade off, I would like to see them reprinted in some form. It's not healthy for the format in the long term to have this many staple cards priced this high. I'd be happier if the high end staple cards were in the $20 range, as opposed to the $40 or $50+ range like we're seeing for blue duals, or the $80+ range for goyfs. Not to mention the totally batshit crazy stuff like Loyal Retainers at $100 a pop. Should Wizards flood the market? Of course not. Should they provide a means to enter the format without having to drop $1000? Yeah, I'd appreciate that, even if it meant the price of my newly acquired collection was cut in half or worse. I bought the cards to play, not because I was planning on selling them in six months at a profit.

[Matt Blackburn]

Should Wizards flood the market? Of course not. Should they provide a means to enter the format without having to drop $1000? Yeah, I'd appreciate that.

yeah, its called ANT/TES, goblins, merfolk, stax, enchantress, etc. nobody held a gun to your head and forced you to spend a $1000 on cards, that was your choice.

Crappy post that is totally unproductive (no content or caps). See our Site Rules and shape up. - Bardo

[rooneg]

yeah, its called ANT/TES, goblins, merfolk, stax, enchantress, etc. nobody held a gun to your head and forced you to spend a $1000 on cards, that was your choice.

Sure, and I didn't say they did. If I had a problem with paying the money clearly I'd have stuck with cheaper decks. Personally though, I would prefer it if staple cards that are played in a large percentage of the field were less expensive because I'd like people to be able to get into the format without shelling out a grand or being relegated to the budget end of the pool. I think it's far to say that the current rate of increase in price is simply not sustainable. My FoWs, goyfs and wastelands have doubled in price since I bought them, and that's in the last few months, that's kind of absurd.

[kicks_422]

He probably meant needing $1,000 to invest if you want to have all the Legacy staples. And furthermore, only Enchantress is practically untouched with the rising card prices. ANT is very expensive to build, and LED's, Wastelands, Force of Wills, Chalices, and such are making even the cheaper decks a bit out of reach for some.

[rooneg]

He probably meant needing $1,000 to invest if you want to have all the Legacy staples. And furthermore, only Enchantress is practically untouched with the rising card prices. ANT is very expensive to build, and LED's, Wastelands, Force of Wills, Chalices, and such are making even the cheaper decks a bit out of reach for some.

To be clear, what I mean when I say $1000 I don't mean all the staples, just enough of them to put together a few different decks. Between duals, fetches and a few of the more expensive other staples (goyf, FoW, LED) it's really not all that hard to start approaching $1000 at current prices.

[wolfstorm]

Yes, and I own the majority of playable cards in the format duals, tabernacle, force, imperial recruiter etc..

[Anusien]

I have Forces, Fetches, Goyfs, Mox Diamond, Chrome Mox, blue dual set, at least one of each non-blue dual, LED and more. I'm in favor of reprinting in just about any form.

[Soto]

I for one think they should reprint staples. I recently sold my collection and have been having thoughts of going back. At ~1000$ entry price (I'm not going to restart with burn, when I was playing Thresh and Zoo before I quit), it isn't very tempting.

[andrew77]

I am completely against this for many reasons. BTW, I would be unaffected by any amount of reprinting as 90% of my cards are alpha/beta, korean, or jap foil.

[Bardo]

sorry, seemed about as productive as anything else I read here. like over 9000 various threads all bitching about rising card prices. multiple unproductive threads seem more of a nuisance than an unproductive post. just pointing out that not all legacy decks cost $1000+ like everyone makes them out to.
It's less about what you said than how you said it.

@ the poll - I own twenty-something RV duals (all the good ones and a few others), playsets of FoW, Goyf, and shit-piles of good Legacy playables. I'd love to see them reprinted to lower the cost of entry for new players.

[Aggro_zombies]

A SCG article touching on this is up (it's free):

http://www.starcitygames.com/magic/misc/18791_Yawgmoths_Whimsy_313_Reprinting_Phyrexian_Negator.html

[Aleksandr]

Rather than banning staples from Legacy, Wizards may reprint them.

Otoh: Even though I don't own P9, Library, Bazaar, etc. (and if I played Vintage, I really wish four Bazaars) I am not sure that I want to see Vintage staples reprinted, mainly because:
1) These cards are extremely powerful
2) These cards are legends of Magic history and as such, they should remain rare
3) Reprinting them could possibly screw collectors

[Zappa]

Voted in favor. Quite a lot of people I know that either play standard or casual, that doesn't want to get into legacy coz they're intimidated by the card prices. If it brings more people to the format, I am all for it. I don't really care if my collection takes a plunge, not like I plan on selling them anyways. So long as game population, wether its competitive or casual, goes up, I am all for it.

[Forbiddian]

Voted in favor. Quite a lot of people I know that either play standard or casual, that doesn't want to get into legacy coz they're intimidated by the card prices. If it brings more people to the format, I am all for it. I don't really care if my collection takes a plunge, not like I plan on selling them anyways. So long as game population, wether its competitive or casual, goes up, I am all for it.

If the popularity goes up, the prices will probably not drop too much -- just more people will be playing it.

This might happen if the From the Vault: Legacy (or some other promotion) causes people to start talking more about Legacy.

[Purgatory]

I voted yes, because I want the format to be accessible for new players. I don't care if some of my more expensive cards (duals, fetches, FoW, Goyf blah blah) get devalued, it's a hobby not a fucking retirement plan.

[ryO!]

If Legacy staples are reprinted in a premium release, would you welcome it even though the prices of the cards you own would go down? Or would you, true to the player backlash assumption, get pissed off and maybe even quit the game?.

That would simply be the worst idea ever and I do not own every single staple * 4 nor all dual * 4, still i find that idea utterly irrelevant.

[herbig]

That would simply be the worst idea ever and I do not own every single staple * 4 nor all dual * 4, still i find that idea utterly irrelevant.

I'm not sure if you understand the meaning of "irrelevant." It's being speculated everywhere, and Wizards should be making an announcement sometime soon about their reserved list policy.

[dahcmai]

Yes, and I own 3-5 of just about every card there is short of Summer.

[umbowta]

Yes! I would love to see them reprinted in order to lower the cost of entry to the format for prospective players. I lived through Chronicles, when everyone thought the sky was falling. I still own many of the same duals I had back then. I currently own a minimum of two playsets of each of the blue duals and a minimum of a playset of the others, with extras in my EDH decks...and I would still welcome the minimal pain of a bit of deflation. We're not lust talking about young standard players here. There are many older players who would like to get back in the game. Unfortunately, many of them are put off by the price.

[Forbiddian]

Keep in mind reprints won't drop the prices *that* much. Even with an extra 10-20k on the market of each dual land, tundras might go down by $4-$5, and beta tundras won't be affected at all.

It's more to spark interest back into Legacy. I like the idea of a two-colored duel deck that has a dual land and maybe some other useful spells.

[Doomsday]

I voted "No". I don't think there's any problem. Availability is there for any card you want, lack of availability is an imaginary problem unless for some reason mail doesn't get delivered where you live. Legacy and Vintage are still the cheapest formats to play for any significant length of time. Would I like to be able to get stuff cheaper? Yes. Do I think that WoTC should reneg on their policy just so I can save a few bucks, or to draw people into the format who can't even figure out that it's still cheaper to play than most other formats? No.

[MattH]

I own all 16 blue duals, 3 goyfs (>;o), couple sets of Force, 10 more nonblue duals, plenty of fetches and playsets of other valuable cards like Mox Diamond. And 1 Sea Drake, because lol. I own no power cards or any triple-digit cards like Workshop or Tabernacle, and would probably sell them if I did.

Despite my collection's current value, I have nothing to lose, because I was not planning on selling any of it anyway.


I support reprints in any version, not just premium; and in any quantity. And I voted as such.

[Philipp2293]

I voted yes. I have most of the Legacy-card pool (4 Goyf, 4 Forces, 1 Retainers, 1 Tabernacle, 1 Moat, most Duals, most Fetchies, LEDs, Mox Diamonds etc.). I think if reprinting staples would lead to dropping prices, I could live with that, if the format draws more new players and becomes accessible, after all I bought my cards to play with them and not make money or have an investment.

[(nameless one)]

It would be nice if WotC made a paper version of Masters Edition.

[DuxDucis]

I voted yes as well.

Although a premium release will likely result in prices similar to FTV:Exiled. Which makes me wonder if that is actually going to make Legacy any cheaper or more accessible? Spending $400 dollars to pick up a set of cards isn't really what we are looking for is it?

In my mind something like the Master Editions on MTGO will be the only workable solution. That might be the only way to ensure enough product is opened make a difference in prices. Sure we will have to put up with cracking stuff like Willow Satyr but in the end it may be the necessary step. It does sound an awful lot like Chronicles now that I think about it.

It would be foolish to assume that Hasbro/Wizards isn't using the reaction to the Timeshifted cards, Duel Decks, FTV, Premium decks and Masters Edition to judge what there next step is going to be.

[xTrainx]

Voted yes. The format needs reprints so that more people become involved in the game. However, a FTV series or Chronicles would be absolutely horrible.

I believe somebody mentioned something like pack rewards, in addition to the Player Rewards. After playing in a legacy event, they send you a pack that has a chance of containing reprints, anywhere from 0-15 reprints, with a smaller chance of some legacy staples(no reprinting of Power and shit.). You get your second pack after two more events(3 total). Your third after three more events(6 total), and so on.

[Amon Amarth]

I think for the long term health of the format there needs to be something done about the dramatic increase in price of Legacy staples. Whether that means outright reprinting them in a Core Set, ( an incredibly dumb and unlikely scenario) a FTV-esque set, or perhaps some form of promo such as Judge Rewards. Out of those a FTV set seems the best and would (hopefully) put enough of he cards in circulation to make a difference in prices.

[stuckpixel]

100% yes to reprinting - I'd personally be fine with a new Masters Edition in paper, much like online.

Anyone claiming that they will quit if cards are reprinted are posturing. They'll bitch about it for months on end, maybe stop playing for a few weeks, but they'll be out in line for the new promo set or at the pre-release for Masters Edition.

Wizards needs to go ahead, kill the reserve list, and let the players play the game.

[AngryTroll]

Despite my collection's current value, I have nothing to lose, because I was not planning on selling any of it anyway.

Exactly. I've got 12 blue duals, about that many non-blue duals, old fetches, Forces, Goyfs, Watelands, etc. All of them are worth more than what I paid for them, but I bought them to play, not to sell. I'd be upset if their value plummeted, but I wouldn't be upset if they devalued a little bit in the short term. The cards will come back up in value in the long run.

Wizards would have to print a HUGE number of cards to make the old staples plummet in price. If they reprint cards in white border, maybe with the new card frame, the old cards would still hold most of their value.

[Sims]

Exactly. I've got 12 blue duals, about that many non-blue duals, old fetches, Forces, Goyfs, Watelands, etc. All of them are worth more than what I paid for them, but I bought them to play, not to sell. I'd be upset if their value plummeted, but I wouldn't be upset if they devalued a little bit in the short term. The cards will come back up in value in the long run.

Wizards would have to print a HUGE number of cards to make the old staples plummet in price. If they reprint cards in white border, maybe with the new card frame, the old cards would still hold most of their value.


This. Just don't give me a FTV. MSRP 34.99, inflated to well over 100 if there is duals or forces, and only in that super shiny bendy foiling process? no thanks. I'd rather have a straight up, new frame, white bordered Masters Edition or Chronicles 2.

[paK0]

Voted yes. I'm more concerned to have someone to play in some years than what my cards are worth in some years.

[from Cairo]

Exactly. I've got 12 blue duals, about that many non-blue duals, old fetches, Forces, Goyfs, Watelands, etc. All of them are worth more than what I paid for them, but I bought them to play, not to sell. I'd be upset if their value plummeted, but I wouldn't be upset if they devalued a little bit in the short term. The cards will come back up in value in the long run.

Wizards would have to print a HUGE number of cards to make the old staples plummet in price. If they reprint cards in white border, maybe with the new card frame, the old cards would still hold most of their value.

This is exactly what Wizards beginning to reprint staples would put an end to.

The whole reason people are saying they need to be printed again is because supply doesn't meet demand and the cards are rising to too high a price level. If Wizards answers this with reprinting, than they break that rule and there is no reason to think they wouldn't do the same thing the next time. If X years down the line supply again doesn't meet demand, the prices are high, and Wizards reprints them yet again.

I'm not nessicarily against them reprinting staples, but I don't think one can argue it doesn't devalue older printings, since that is the whole intention.

[Aleksandr]

Voted yes. The format needs reprints so that more people become involved in the game. However, a FTV series or Chronicles would be absolutely horrible.

I believe somebody mentioned something like pack rewards, in addition to the Player Rewards. After playing in a legacy event, they send you a pack that has a chance of containing reprints, anywhere from 0-15 reprints, with a smaller chance of some legacy staples(no reprinting of Power and shit.). You get your second pack after two more events(3 total). Your third after three more events(6 total), and so on.

This process won't help the new players to get the stuff. It is too complicated to gain some cards and they also need to get involved into Legacy first to get involved into Legacy... I play Legacy on weekly basis and I get what - like one reward per three months?
If it has to make some impact, only FTV or Chronicles Revisited is the way to go.
???

[Jeff Kruchkow]

Im all for reprints but the only feasible way is to do like a Chronicles of like legacy playables. Doing a FTV wont work because as soon as ppl know there are duals/forces/leds etc in it itll go from MSRP up to like 400.

[xTrainx]

This process won't help the new players to get the stuff. It is too complicated to gain some cards and they also need to get involved into Legacy first to get involved into Legacy... I play Legacy on weekly basis and I get what - like one reward per three months?
If it has to make some impact, only FTV or Chronicles Revisited is the way to go.
???

Maybe the Reward would be a straight up Dual or Force, ect - depending on what promotional item they were offering - and then to generate interest, if you went on the Wizards website, you could vote on what your promo item may end up being for that quarter.

[Nizmox]

Im all for reprints but the only feasible way is to do like a Chronicles of like legacy playables. Doing a FTV wont work because as soon as ppl know there are duals/forces/leds etc in it itll go from MSRP up to like 400.

What he said.
FTV is a terrible idea to try and increase the legacy player base. Premium to me indicates foil and black bordered. This would make it highly desirable to existing legacy players, and if it's like the FTV: Exiled release it will be in limited quantities and sell WAY above the RRP.

As someone mentioned, a white bordered, new frame release is the only way this could really work. If Wizards can create something less desirable than the originals and in sufficient enough quantity this should help the legacy player base and reduce it's impact on collectors (though still piss plenty of them off i'm sure).

[MattH]

This is exactly what Wizards beginning to reprint staples would put an end to.

The whole reason people are saying they need to be printed again is because supply doesn't meet demand and the cards are rising to too high a price level. If Wizards answers this with reprinting, than they break that rule and there is no reason to think they wouldn't do the same thing the next time. If X years down the line supply again doesn't meet demand, the prices are high, and Wizards reprints them yet again.

I'm not nessicarily against them reprinting staples, but I don't think one can argue it doesn't devalue older printings, since that is the whole intention.

This is a good point, but I'm still in favor of reprints. To put it another way, "not selling my USea for $60" and "not selling my USea for $20 after reprints" are the same thing at the end of the day.

I also agree with everyone saying that FTV-style sets are not the way to go. They just don't make that many of them, and every FTV so far has retailed much higher than MSRP. If they want to increase supply this way, it'd need to be in a print run at least the size of duel decks or planechase.