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Genericcactus
03-10-2010, 09:36 PM
Can I sac a Vampire Hexmage to trigger Highborn's ability if there are no permanents in play which have counters on them?
Forbiddian
03-10-2010, 09:51 PM
Can I sac a Vampire Hexmage to trigger Highborn's ability if there are no permanents in play which have counters on them?

Yes.

The requirements for Vampire Hexmage are that you have a target permanent. Any permanent would do, even the Vampire Hexmage. On resolution, it will remove all the counters from that target permanent, whether there's 0 counters or 100 counters.

This is different than if it said, "Remove all counters from target permanent with counters on it." Then you would need to target a permanent with counters on it.
Malchar
03-11-2010, 01:01 AM
The hexmage can't target itself because it is sacrificed first.
Edit: Nevermind
chris_acheson
03-11-2010, 01:53 AM
The hexmage can't target itself because it is sacrificed first.

This is incorrect. You choose targets before you pay costs.
Julian23
03-11-2010, 06:51 AM
This is incorrect. You choose targets before you pay costs.

100% confirmed. That's also why Wasteland can destroy itself.
Atwa
03-11-2010, 08:21 AM
100% confirmed. That's also why Wasteland can destroy itself.

Which is a play btw I would only do at a normal tournament and not on MWS, since people will call you a cheater for doing that.