The swarm

[zabuza]

Reading other thread overthere I had an idead that I´m developing now. THe deck is very funny but needs improvement.

Now is something like

3 Gaea´s Cradle
4 Swarmyard
2 Oran-rief the vastwood
11 Forest

4 Xantid Swarm
4 Scute Mob
4 Crop Rotation
4 BroodHatch Nantuko
4 Pale Recluse
4 Beastmaster Ascension
4 Saber Ants
4 Beacon of creation
3 Garruk WildSpeaker
10 Free Slots

The sinergy in the deck is obvious, you can black all the day with Broodhatch Nantuko or Saber Ants (regenerating them with Swarmyard) generating lot of creatures that will be pumped with Oran-Rief, garruk and so. With beacon of creation you´ll create an army of creatures to beat the opponent (pumped again with oran-rief or garruk).
Garruk has sinergy with oran rief (making them give a permanent +2/+2 to all creatures) and with gaea´s cradle (lot of mana).
BEacon combines with cradle, and so.

Ascension make all your creatures enormous mosnters and you´ll have lot of them to be pumped.

Pale Recluse is the removal of the deck because regenrates with yard and can block almost everything.

Another cards I´m considering:
Leyline of the meek: To make our dudes big since the begining.
Goldenglow Moth: TO gain life while regenerating with yard.
Bind:To avoid EE, pernicious and so.
Gigapede: to have a big beater.

Can you help me??

[Meekrab]

First of all, you don't have any way to cast Pale Recluse. White mana is tech.

I think I would change the focus of this deck to something more like "Cast Beastmaster Ascension with seven critters on the board, and turn them sideways for 35+" rather than "play a bunch of kawaii little insects and laugh as I lucksack wins with them against opponents who probably drool on their cards." To that end I think I would drop all the cuddly insects that don't make more insects for good stuff like Tarmogoyf and Qasali Pridemage and Swords to Plowshares. Actually I would just play Zoo, because this is basically an inferior version of the same basic strategy, but it sure would be funny watching little 1/1 Insect tokens turn into 6/6 Mothras and devour a planeswalker.

[kinda]

I'd splash white and run 4 gaddock teeg main since otherwise you're dead in the water to belcher, ant, dream halls, and stax.

Edit: Oh and jitte...

[bakofried]

Life from the Loam+Nantuko Cultivator? That seems like a decent draw engine. I'd want to develop it, but i'm unsure as to how to build a Loam engine. Also, Chameleon Colossus is pretty kewl tech. Aether Vial is a good way to cheat the curve, and Living Wish probably deserves a spot here.

[Vacrix]

Its a decent idea. I think that the Swarmyard should not be your main game plan, even if it does work pretty well in many cases. Your opponent can bolt it in response to the activation, waste Swarmyard, or just play stuff that flies way before you ever get Recluse online. I would keep MD Xantid Swarm and Broodhatch. That is some sick tech and you can abuse it pretty well if you design the deck to play more like Glimpse of Nature combo. If you play Glimpse and far more creatures, then you will be able to race faster decks like combo, while also being able to play defense against aggro, while also having MD protection via swarm against control to protect Glimpse. Definitely run x4 Spirit Guides so you can cast them with the absurd amount of mana you are making, and maybe try playing Cloudstone Curio so you can bounce your dudes and draw more cards. Its a different direction then the one that you are taking right now but I think it looks more promising than green playing defense until it can smash face with lots of small dudes.

EDIT:
Cloudstone Curio should be insane in this deck. Cycling through multiple Crop Rotation should give you plenty of mana to continue replaying something like Elvish Visionary x2 + Cloudstone Curio.

[Gocho]

If you go with Life from the Loam, I'll try Worm Harvest.
With Gaea's Cradle in play you can make a lot of Worms every turn.

Bant Loam plays Gaea's Cradle + Worm Harvest + Life from the Loam as Intuition pile. Can be played T2 if you play Hierarch or Mox Diamond turn 1. Perhaps you can try it without Intuition

[zabuza]

I misspelled one card. It was not pale recluse, it was Deadly Recluse ;). The deck is monoG ;
Good idea on including a couple of chameleon Colosssus which is an insect too.
I´m going to add aether vial too, but i don´t know if it´s worthihile because once you have a cradle or two mana it´s not very useful. Instead the deck needs a way to draw cards. Cultivator could be fine but then you need to play a loam engine. THe problem of using loam engine and cultivator is that cultivator is 4CC so the number of spells with this casting cost now is very high (beacon, colossus, cultivator,..)
More ideas????

[Maveric78f]

Tag your cards. It's really annoying for people coming by to have any interest in a deck packing all those neverseen insects/spiders.

Saber Ants is awful. Ant Queen looks just far better.
Make yourself a favor : Splash W for Mirror Entity.
Natural Order package seems to fit completely the deck too.
Fecundity looks like a great addition too.

Ascension is awful by the way.

Lands 21
3 Gaea's Cradle
4 Swarmyard
2 Oran-rief, the vastwood
2 Savannah
4 Forest
5 fetches

Creatures 23
4 Xantid Swarm
4 Scute Mob
4 BroodHatch Nantuko
4 Deadly Recluse
1 Progenitus
1 Terastodon
1 Ant Queen
4 Mirror Entity

Stuff 16
4 Crop Rotation
3 Beacon of creation
3 Garruk WildSpeaker
3 Natural Order
3 Fecundity

SB:
2 Choke
3 Burrenton Forge-Tender
2 Dauntless Escort
4 Orim's Chant
4 Ethersworn Canonist

[Darkenslight]

No love for the Gigapede? I'm ashamed of you. :p

[Maveric78f]

Except having another creature dying under plague, I don't see the point since it can't be targetted with swarmyard

[zabuza]

Your list of the deck seems very good but there is some changes i´m not very convinced of.
First of all I think at least a couple of saber ants must remain because they have the same hability than natuko making the table full of ants. On the other side i don´t like ant queen at all because it´s 5 CC seems difficult to reach.

I don´t see why are you going to play terastodon which has no sinergy with the deck. Instead I would play a couple of Chamelon colossus which are insects too ;)

Fecundity is a very nice idea, i have to test it.

4 mirror entity seems a lot. THe problem of using entity is that you need to splash (but on the other side it makes all our dudes insects and it´s an insect ;) ) and that there is lot of 3cc cards in the deck now . Anyways I´m going to give them a try.

Any more ideas??

[Maveric78f]

Terastodon is progenitus #2. And it can be hardcasted quite easily with Gaea's Cradle.
The same for Ant Queen. It can be tutored with Natural Order in sme particular MUs and game states. But most of all it can be hardcasted quite easily. It's 5/5 for 5 which is correct and then with Gaea's Cradle in play it can create gazilions of Insect tokens.

Actually the first card to cut is Beacon of Creation, I thought it was 1 token per land but it's 1 token per forest. You can cut them for Chameleon Colossus, even if I'd prefer Oblivion Ring.

W serves also a lot for the SB.

[Kangaxx]

Reading other thread overthere I had an idead that I´m developing now. THe deck is very funny but needs improvement.

Now is something like

3 Gaea´s Cradle
4 Swarmyard
2 Oran-rief the vastwood
11 Forest

4 Xantid Swarm
4 Scute Mob
4 Crop Rotation
4 BroodHatch Nantuko
4 Pale Recluse
4 Beastmaster Ascension
4 Saber Ants
4 Beacon of creation
3 Garruk WildSpeaker
10 Free Slots

The sinergy in the deck is obvious, you can black all the day with Broodhatch Nantuko or Saber Ants (regenerating them with Swarmyard) generating lot of creatures that will be pumped with Oran-Rief, garruk and so. With beacon of creation you´ll create an army of creatures to beat the opponent (pumped again with oran-rief or garruk).
Garruk has sinergy with oran rief (making them give a permanent +2/+2 to all creatures) and with gaea´s cradle (lot of mana).
BEacon combines with cradle, and so.

Ascension make all your creatures enormous mosnters and you´ll have lot of them to be pumped.

Pale Recluse is the removal of the deck because regenrates with yard and can block almost everything.

Another cards I´m considering:
Leyline of the meek: To make our dudes big since the begining.
Goldenglow Moth: TO gain life while regenerating with yard.
Bind:To avoid EE, pernicious and so.
Gigapede: to have a big beater.

Can you help me??

Needs more Nevinyrral's Disk. I mean, you're running Swarmyard and Planeswalkers. ;)

[zabuza]

I´m thinking on using shivan meteor or volcano hellion to create an army of insects from nothing. Making 13 or more damage to nantuko or saber ants seems very nice while having removal for desperate situations. What do you think??