Combo Discard

[kinda]

So I'm wondering if anyone can think of a black card that will help assemble the combo (that's not grim tutor) so I don't have to splash for enlightened tutor or lim dul's vault. Or just if anyone can link me to a similar deck (I know this is really basic but it's been testing well). There are 4 open slots in the deck.

20 Swamp

Combo
4 Painter's Servant
4 Grindstone

Control:
4 Thoughtseize
4 Duress
4 Hymn to Tourach
4 Unmask
4 Diabolic Edit

Tutor:
4 Beseech the Queen
4 Infernal Tutor

Open:
4

[JeroenC]

Infernal Tutor isn't ever going to work out. You could try out Ad Nauseam, I suppose. I had an AN Painter deck at some point (but it also ran white).

[MakeMyDay]

Diabolic Tutor is also possible ...

[Moczoc]

Cruel Tutor

[caiomarcos]

Tainted Pact

Also, the deck needs more Dark Rituals.

[Vacrix]

I'd love to see some sort of discard deck abuse Dream Salvage as a draw engine. Could it be done here?

[Mystical_Jackass]

I'd love to see some sort of discard deck abuse Dream Salvage as a draw engine. Could it be done here?

Dark Confidant

Skeletal Scrying

Lose unmask, you won't be comboing first turn anyways. I suggest maybe Hypnotic Specter? 1-2 Liliana Vess are also an option. If you choose not to go Confidant, which you prolly should, maybe run Abyss to go with Painter.

[Grumpollion]

Insidious Dreams is a black card that can help you assemble the combo. It can put both pieces of the combo on top of your library.

[rufus]

Lots of possibilities...

Plunge into Darkness
Spoils of the Vault
Desperate Reserach
Divining Witch
Shred Memory
Tainted Pact
Doomsday
Colfenor's Plans

[Mystical_Jackass]

Insidious Dreams is a black card that can help you assemble the combo. It can put both pieces of the combo on top of your library.

I'd say that's deffinitely the right track. This guy seems like one of the posters who makes a thread and never responds, but I'd say you'd want a core something like this:

//Control (17)
4 Dark Ritual
4 Cabal Therapy
4 Hymn to Tourach
4 Diabolic Edict/Deathmark
1 Damnation

//Combo (9)
3 Painter's Servant
3 Hexmage
3 Grindstone

//Draw (11)
4 Sensei's DT
4 Dark Confidant
1 Skeletal Scrying
2 Insidious Dreams

//Land (23)
3 Dark Depths
3 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
17 Swamps

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Just threw in Depths combo... hell, why not lol. Choose your hell, lol

[sunshine]

Assuming the reason you don't want to run Grim Tutor is its price tag, you could try Death Wish. That'll only cost you half your life rather than half your bank account.

[kinda]

I ended up deciding that splashing white was a good idea and ok on my budget...I'll post a list tonight.

[kinda]

I like mystical's list...but getting raced by zoo is a real problem.

Land: 20
8 Swamp
8 black fetches
4 Scrubland

Combo: 7
4 Painter's Servant
3 Grindstone

Control: 17
4 Thoughtseize
4 Duress
4 Hymn to Tourach
4 Swords to Plowshares
1 Moat

Tutor: 8
4 Beseech the Queen
4 Enlightened Tutor

Draw: 6
3 Dark Confidant or maybe arena
3 Top

Alternate Wincon: 2
2 Eternal Dragon

Sideboard:
2 Hanna's Custody
4 Path to Exile
3 Isochron Scepter
4 Disenchant (anyone know a higher casting one w/ alternate cost?)
2 Gerrard's Verdict