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kinda
03-22-2010, 01:33 AM
I was looking at deckcheck.net and thought it looked like a ton of fun to play, but it hasn't t8 since 2008...so I made a list but it isn't performing well. So anyone have/want to make a list?

Here's my attempt:

Land: 26
4 Savannah
4 Windswept Heath
4 Wooded Foothills
3 Mishra's Factory
4 Wasteland
3 Tranquil Thicket
1 Forest
1 Plains
2 Treetop Village

Beaters: 8
4 Terravore
4 Knight of the Reliquary

Acceleration: 4
4 Mox Diamond

Classic Aggro Loam: 4
4 Chalice of the Void

Various Sorta Synergistic Comboish Pieces: 18
4 Life from the Loam
4 Cataclysm
4 Armageddon
3 Solitary Confinement
2 Genesis
1 Eternal Witness

Sideboard:
4 Null Rod
4 Tormod's Crypt
4 Gaddock Teeg
3 Magus of the Tabernacle

Pastorofmuppets
03-22-2010, 01:57 AM
you seem to be forgetting Cataclysm. I've found it quite critical in, you know, winning. I didn't run confinement and instead opted for more creatures, and Tabernacle. I had Pridemage, Goyf, and Werebear all MD'd'd.

kinda
03-22-2010, 02:44 AM
Yeah I forgot about cataclysm...I added that in there and changed the deck a bit. I still think solitary confinement is pretty good, especially since I'm not sure if I have access to tarmo.

Edit: I would like to try and add the dueling grounds/maze of ith combo in here, probably mainly in the sb.

DukeDemonKn1ght
03-22-2010, 04:36 AM
I think the main problem you need to overcome is that all your creatures depend on the graveyard in order to get big. BGR Aggro Loam at least has Countryside Crusher as a strong threat that isn't graveyard-dependant, but I'm not sure if there is anything that fits the bill in white/ green.

I would suggest Baneslayer Angel, but getting up to five mana doesn't really seem to fit with the overall gameplan. Exalted Angel might be worth a shot, but she doesn't seem right either.

Hmm... Maybe Ohran Viper? It isn't big, but it can hold board position and/or draw you a lot of extra cards, both of which should probably be able to get you through some graveyard hate.

Also, on another note, I'm not entirely sure that Life from the Loam is better with Armageddon than Crucible of Worlds is. The problem is that you need the two mana to cast Loam, whereas Crucible just lets you keep replaying shit like nothing happened. Also, it's not like you run too many other artifacts to have to worry about Cataclysm all that much. You might end up sacrificing a Chalice sometimes, but by the time you play Cataclysm with Crucible and a threat on the table, you can probably afford to sac a Chalice that's already done most of its job.

If you use Crucible, you should replace Tranquil Thicket with Horizon Canopy. And you should cut Solitary Confinement for something else if you switch to Crucible. I really would try it out though, because it seems like by the nature of this deck where you blow up your own lands a bit, it's going to be a pain in the ass to have to pay two mana to Loam all the time.

jrsthethird
03-22-2010, 08:59 AM
Werebear seems great since he helps you stay ahead after you've blown up lands.

(nameless one)
03-22-2010, 09:16 AM
Werebear seems great since he helps you stay ahead after you've blown up lands.

Finally, a build where Werebear would be better than a Goyf.

Would Flagstones of Trokair help as you will be constantly bombing your lands?

Pastorofmuppets
03-22-2010, 03:36 PM
Finally, a build where Werebear would be better than a Goyf.

Would Flagstones of Trokair help as you will be constantly bombing your lands?

hey, how come he gets credit for loving bears and not me?
Heirarch works good in here too, guys.

Phoenix Ignition
03-22-2010, 04:16 PM
Finally, a build where Werebear would be better than a Goyf.

Nope, still not true.

I would run Crucible in addition to/ instead of some of the life from the loams. It does basically the same thing without the upkeep of paying a bunch of mana to put some extra lands in your graveyard, and is less blown out by all of the graveyard hate going around now. Solitary confinement maindeck is not as good as it used to be since everyone runs Qasali Pridemage and it's a huge freaking investment to just get blown up at will. At least if they blew up Crucible it isn't as big a deal since you didn't waste 2 cards a turn on it, and you get at least 1 use out of it before it dies.

You absolutely need The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale for this deck to work, it has some amazing tricks with KotR and armageddon.

Also the investment of having 2 dead cards of Genesis is worse than just splashing a black mana or two for a Volrath's Stronghold. Lastly I don't see you attacking with Mishra's Factory until the late game and it would probably be better served as a Nantucko Monastery or Stirring Wildwood

jrsthethird
03-22-2010, 05:23 PM
Goyf is not the best creature ever. He's big and cheap, without a drawback. Werebear in this deck will usually be as big (power counts, not much difference between 4 and 5 toughness) and he is just as cheap, but he has utility with mana accel that Goyf could never have. There's a reason this deck doesn't run Goyf. Sure, Werebear might not make the cut, but running Goyf in this deck is dumb considering the synergy Werebear has with the strategy.

Poron
03-22-2010, 05:58 PM
you should abuse of some landfall engine, imho

Atwa
03-22-2010, 07:09 PM
Goyf is not the best creature ever. He's big and cheap, without a drawback. Werebear in this deck will usually be as big (power counts, not much difference between 4 and 5 toughness) and he is just as cheap, but he has utility with mana accel that Goyf could never have. There's a reason this deck doesn't run Goyf. Sure, Werebear might not make the cut, but running Goyf in this deck is dumb considering the synergy Werebear has with the strategy.

I've been playing "old" Terrageddon a lot and even in the old build, Werebear got replaced by Goyf. The deck used to play 8 non-land mana producers, 4 Elves and 4 Bears. Now I would start to look at 4 Elves/Hierarchs and 4 Moxen.

Goyf is better in this deck. You are basicly playing Horde with Armageddon/Cataclysm as a way to force your creatures through. Big beaters are better then fast recovering mana. Besides, when playing Cataclysm with a Goyf/Bear and a Terra/Knight on the board, you are going to keep the Terra/Knight anyway.

I opened a thread about this deck a couple of months ago, before I fell in love with Eternal Garden. I tried to play it with the Landfall Lynx, Goyf, Terra and Knight, and it worked pretty decent. I am only convinsed the deck isn't viable at the moment with all the Reanimator and Bant around. I started playing New Horizons, which also plays Terra and Knight, but packs a healty amount of countermagic and cantrips. Preformed pretty well at the GP.

MrShine
03-22-2010, 07:22 PM
What about Scapeshift in here? If one was to go the route of adding in landfall dudes (likely Steppe Lynx) then there would be some great synergy w/ scapeshift, as well as synergy w/ KotR and terravore after having sacced lands. Also, it would let you search out singleton utilities effectively and all at once (if need be), and could also produce additional landfall combo w/ double Flagstones of Trokair. I will pre-emptively add in here that Valakut will probably just be a strain on the manabase, and creatures should be effective enough to take the win (considering they'll all get like +4/+4 after a successful scapeshift).

theintangiblefatman
03-23-2010, 09:46 PM
I'm currently screwing around with a slightly different not quite Aggro Loam build, which seems similar in spirit to your deck. It runs Knight, Terravore, and Crusher as threats, with a set of Diamonds and Birds to play them turn two, plus Natural Order as the game breaking spell in place of Armageddon. The greater threat density helps against spot removal and countermagic, as any one of your threats can end the game on its own, and the tendency for the big beaters to get countered helps Natural Order resolve. Natural Order also allows you to race a fairly developed apposing board, whereas Armageddon is played strictly when you're ahead.