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Gocho
04-15-2010, 05:03 AM
Wizards publish the April 2010 Update Bulletin
http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/86b&page=1

Almost no changes, but the old Enchantments from Urza's Legacy will come back to the original text, so you can repeal the Enchantment and get the effect without sacrifice it:

Brink of Madness
Defense of the Heart
Impending Disaster
Planar Collapse
Second Chance

In others words, the old combo Second Chance + Umbilicus or Blood Clock works (in Urza's Saga Cycle, if anyone want to play it at MOL).
You play any number of second chance + any number of the artifacts, pay life until you are at 5 or less and you get infinite turns for :2::u: each turn.
With any Jace, you have a monoU slow combo-control deck.

Too slow for Legacy?

Vacrix
04-16-2010, 07:45 PM
If you can bounce a permanent every turn for the CIP effect then Umbilicus has more uses than just comboing with Second Chance. Eternal Witness looks good. The only problem with the combo is that your opponent can just bounce lands every turn or pay 2 life. Aggro will stomp a deck like that unless it ccan land Umbilicus/Bloodclock early and then abuse a CIP effect. Its probably too slow for legacy though, which is why they reworded them in the first place.

Anusien
04-16-2010, 10:14 PM
Its probably too slow for legacy though, which is why they reworded them in the first place.
Err, wrong. I thought everybody figured this one out with Flash. Errata has nothing to do with power-level. Errata is designed to make cards work properly. If that affects a card's power level in a significant way, it can be banned or unbanned as a result. They don't base errata decisions on powerlevel though.

Mr.C
04-17-2010, 12:17 AM
Err, wrong. I thought everybody figured this one out with Flash. Errata has nothing to do with power-level. Errata is designed to make cards work properly. If that affects a card's power level in a significant way, it can be banned or unbanned as a result. They don't base errata decisions on powerlevel though.

Hopefully they'll fix Serendib Djinn next time around.

DrJones
04-17-2010, 08:59 AM
They should fix a bunch cards that used to trigger at the beginning of a turn, and now trigger at the beginning of the upkeep. Because there is a card in fifth dawn that skips the upkeep and are confusing. Also, Akron legionnaire doesn't work with Mirror Entity but the most recent printing makes it look like it could. I hope it's fixed in the next update.

About the enchantments, I think Defense of the Heart and Second chance have the most potential to be usable, but Defense of the Heart usually only needs one activation and Second Chance is too risky.

MEATROCKET
04-17-2010, 04:32 PM
Err, wrong. I thought everybody figured this one out with Flash. Errata has nothing to do with power-level. Errata is designed to make cards work properly. If that affects a card's power level in a significant way, it can be banned or unbanned as a result. They don't base errata decisions on powerlevel though.

Nowadays, yeah. This hasn't always been the case, though. See: Time Vault, Basalt Monolith, Great Whale, etc. Most of the power-level errata has been done away with, I think. I hope they "restore" Lotus Vale some day :D

I might have to find a way to use these in EDH somehow (Defense of the Heart is sick), but I'll pass on using them in Legacy.

Arrowni
04-17-2010, 04:57 PM
I think lotus vale is not the problem, a card with lotus in its name back from Mirage block is hardly that much of an issue. Having scorching ruins in the same block with the same problem is kind of the last nail in the coffin. Way too broken.

DrJones
04-17-2010, 05:05 PM
The problem is that there are a lot of people that have speculated with Lotus Vale hoping that in a future Wizards undoes the wording change and they become filthy rich. I hate it because now there's no way to find that card if you want it to play cute decks (It's not a problem for me, because I bought a lot of Weatherlight boosters in its day, best set ever!).

luma
04-18-2010, 11:57 AM
The reason for Lotus Vale's (and Mox Diamond's, among others) Oracle wording is that now it works the same way it used to when it was printed. If it was a trigger, you could tap the Vale for mana and then sacrifice it, which was not possible when Lotus Vale was printed (you had to deal with the "cost" before you could use it).

Arrowni
04-18-2010, 12:44 PM
Now that I think about this news, maybe something can be done in CYOS.

walkerdog
04-18-2010, 02:34 PM
The problem is that there are a lot of people that have speculated with Lotus Vale hoping that in a future Wizards undoes the wording change and they become filthy rich. I hate it because now there's no way to find that card if you want it to play cute decks (It's not a problem for me, because I bought a lot of Weatherlight boosters in its day, best set ever!).

Lotus vale was kind of useful for dredge now too when it wasn't that great before.

Raystar
04-19-2010, 12:02 PM
Did anybody notice the Forcefield errata?

It doesn't target anymore, it's another colorless out to a lot of large beaters, especially Progenitus...