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yougo
04-20-2010, 11:23 PM
hi people
1 question: ok lets say gamekeeper abilitty is taking place i reveal dragon's breath and then emrakul does it work
does emrakul get enchant and how does it work?
2 question: it seems to me that nothing his really going to the graveyard so my question is how graveyard hate can prevent my gamekeeper effect to happen, i see the point with dragon's breath being removed but my creature will still be there... no?
As a side note, please use proper capitalization, punctuation, and grammar on The Source. There are consequences if you don't.
Gamekeeper: "When Gamekeeper is put into a graveyard from the battlefield, you may exile it. If you do, reveal cards from the top of your library until you reveal a creature card. Put that card onto the battlefield and put all other cards revealed this way into your graveyard."
Dragon Breath: "When a creature with converted mana cost 6 or more enters the battlefield, you may return Dragon Breath from your graveyard to the battlefield attached to that creature."
1 question: ok lets say gamekeeper abilitty is taking place i reveal dragon's breath and then emrakul does it work
does emrakul get enchant and how does it work?
Determining the order things happen during resolution can actually be difficult, since small differences in wording and punctuation can make for very different results. In Gamekeeper's case, it says "put and then put", so it's two seperate actions - the Emrakul enters the battlefield, then the other cards go to the graveyard. As such, Dragon Breath will not be in the graveyard to trigger.
2 question: it seems to me that nothing his really going to the graveyard so my question is how graveyard hate can prevent my gamekeeper effect to happen, i see the point with dragon's breath being removed but my creature will still be there... no?
You are correct that the creature will go directly from the library to the battlefield; however, the Gamekeeper's trigger will fail to do anything if it's removed from the graveyard while the trigger is on the stack, since the trigger has an intervening if clause.
dorsch
04-21-2010, 05:57 AM
2 question: it seems to me that nothing his really going to the graveyard so my question is how graveyard hate can prevent my gamekeeper effect to happen, i see the point with dragon's breath being removed but my creature will still be there... no?
If your opponent has a Leyline of the void the gamekeeper will never go into the graveyard so his ability will not trigger.
If your opponent sacrifices a Tormod's Crypt in response to the triggered ability, Gamekeeper will get exiled by the crypt and because of the "if you do" clause, his effect will do nothing.
yougo
04-21-2010, 11:47 PM
Thanks alot very appreciate.
SpikeyMikey
05-09-2010, 12:48 AM
I had someone try and tell me that Dragon's Breath wouldn't work with Emrakul because he has protection from colored spells, but Dragon's Breath doesn't target and it wouldn't fall of because once it's attached, it's not a spell, it's a permanent. Am I missing something or was that guy out of his head?
jrsthethird
05-09-2010, 12:53 AM
Auras are only a spell when they're on the stack. When they're in play, they are not spells.
Some people miss the "spells" part.
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