[Deck] Bosium Strip

[perm]

Hello sourcedudes. I recently discovered a card from weatherlight called Bösium Strip, and it is unused and incredibly breakable. Unfortunatley it's so unprecedented that I need a lot of help sifting through every card and strategy to get a working deck.


2 Brainstorm
4 Gamble
4 Manamorphose
4 Desperate Ritual
3 Thoughtseize
3 Duress
1 Inquisition of Kozilek
4 Rite of Flame
2 Intuition
4 Seething Song
3 Fossil Find
4 Bosium Stip
1 Tendrils of Agony
1 Empty the Warrens

19 Lands

Cards possible:
Ill gotten gains: I can pull out cards that break graveyard order, as well as permanents. A lot of potential, since it gets cards I want to cast twice as well.
Frantic Search: Free careful study, draw and choose what to pitch in what order
Breakthrough: Can fill graveyard for pretty cheap, you choose order and can pay mana to keep what you want (permanent)
Skeletal scrying: pulls out dead GY cards and gets me CA, seems good.
Dark ritual and cabal ritual: auto-include if black is run, threshold is quite easy
Wild Research: If control is chosen over combo with this deck, this card is fantastic. is a gamble on a stick, pulling out the exact cards you need, instant or even a pyromancer ascension, and the discard is just fine.
Counterbalance could be included if the control route is taken

thoughts? I think this can materialize into a competitive deck.

[Phoenix Ignition]

Well there was this http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/showthread.php?15385-Markov-Control-By-David-Gearheart#post399200 at one point but it crashed and burned. Maybe can get a few ideas there though.

[kicks_422]

There was a deck that was submitted to a CANGD contest a few years back. I believe Pinder was one of the people working on it. From what I recall, it worked pretty well.

[Combo Winter]

Fyi Frantic search is banned. Also I think cards like fossil find are useless.

[perm]

I guess careful study then. I thought frantic search was unbanned for some reason.

[Pinder]

There was a deck that was submitted to a CANGD contest a few years back. I believe Pinder was one of the people working on it. From what I recall, it worked pretty well.

Yeah, it was Tosh's brainchild. It was alright, but it's roughly twice as slow as ANT and having to care about the order of your graveyard was sort of a pain. I'll see if I can scrounge up the link.

[Vacrix]

I agree its incredibly breakable but your list is ATM a no protection list. You'll either have to make it incredibly fast, or add in some protection for it to be worth running instead of something like Belcher or ANT. Just because there are great combo decks like Belcher (protectionless) and ANT (protection) doesn't mean that this deck can't establish a role in the metagame, but you should specify that role. Attempting to abuse obscure cards is one thing, but providing a justification for a strategy is a prerequisite to pursuing a strategy, in this case, Bosium Strip.dec. Why should it be played? I think Bosium Strip is strong because you can replay your protection spells by using Bosium Strip and/or countered win conditions. Also, it gives you envitability, much like Belcher, in that you will be able to use it profitably each turn.

I'm not sure I agree with your approach though (that or you should provide a more in depth explanation). Gearheart's approach seems stronger (if you read the thread), attempting to replay discard and sweepers/targeted removal looks extremely strong.

I suggest looking into Intuition and a more control-esque build. Intuition allows you to make use of the instants and sorceries you find whether or not they go to your hand. Its a badass tutor if you already have Bosium Strip in play not to mention its viability as a tutor regardless.

[Darkenslight]

Try Surreal Memoir from RoE: it refetches a random non-Strip spell, and it does it again next turn.

[(nameless one)]

There was a deck that was submitted to a CANGD contest a few years back. I believe Pinder was one of the people working on it. From what I recall, it worked pretty well.

What exactly is the CANGD contest?

[sunshine]

What exactly is the CANGD contest?

Creat A New Good Deck contest.

[perm]

I agree its incredibly breakable but your list is ATM a no protection list. You'll either have to make it incredibly fast, or add in some protection for it to be worth running instead of something like Belcher or ANT. Just because there are great combo decks like Belcher (protectionless) and ANT (protection) doesn't mean that this deck can't establish a role in the metagame, but you should specify that role. Attempting to abuse obscure cards is one thing, but providing a justification for a strategy is a prerequisite to pursuing a strategy, in this case, Bosium Strip.dec. Why should it be played? I think Bosium Strip is strong because you can replay your protection spells by using Bosium Strip and/or countered win conditions. Also, it gives you envitability, much like Belcher, in that you will be able to use it profitably each turn.

I'm not sure I agree with your approach though (that or you should provide a more in depth explanation). Gearheart's approach seems stronger (if you read the thread), attempting to replay discard and sweepers/targeted removal looks extremely strong.

I suggest looking into Intuition and a more control-esque build. Intuition allows you to make use of the instants and sorceries you find whether or not they go to your hand. Its a badass tutor if you already have Bosium Strip in play not to mention its viability as a tutor regardless.

Yes, I am thinking of 4-color control with this, to re-use efficient removal spells (vindicate) and mana spells. Burw sounds good, since legacy manabase isn't much of a problem. But I just can't pass up re-using vindicate. Unfortunately I don't think counters are very useable in this deck, since GY order matteers and they can get in the way. What do you all think about counters?

[rufus]

It seems like you'd be better off in UB with cards like Glimpse the Unthinkable, Entomb and Flash of Insight...

[Vacrix]

I think the best way to approach this is to run efficient removal spells with low cc that way you can stall in the early game, and then follow it up with Bosium Strip to create a psuedo-lock. I wuoldn't go with 4 color control. Supporting that mana base will be extremely difficult with all the wasteland in the format. You want to keep that 3 open as an out. I'd go with UBW. Also, its worth noting that Intuition lets you reuse it and put even more shit in your grave. That seems pretty dam good.

Also, keep in mind that this deck is vulnerable to the same things as Scepter Chant. I'm not sure it can be viable unless you make a really good argument against Krosan Grip. Maybe reusing something like Sinkhole? Then the opponent can't play Krosan Grip.

[perm]

THe thing that bothers me about not having red is not just the rites/ascension (no big deal) but the fossil find,which is a fucking bomb in this deck. I suppose it won't be so bad without it, just need ways to clear blocks int he GY

[Peter_Rotten]

Here's a little rain on the parade (sorry):

Finding Strip is difficult.
Strip is mana intensive (6 mana to cast and use and then mana to use the spells in your yard)
Strip is tough to protect - see Krosan grip and Pridemage
Yard hate - people already pack yard hate for faster decks like Reanimator and Dredge
Wasteland not only messes with your mana base, it ruins Strips usefullness. Plus, Strip encourages you to avoid using Sac-lands.
After dodging all of this, activating Strip doesn't even come close to winning the game. It doesn't do damage or reanimate a fatty or let you cast spells for free.
Stip is fun though. A long time ago I had tossed some in a HighTide deck and they were decent (barely), but that was a very different meta than today's. it could surely make the rounds at the casual tables.

[kitsunewarlock]

When I saw this card I had a similiar thought...well not quite.

Your using Strip like Yawg's Will for Storm. A 6 drop yawg's will. Which isn't bad. But I was using it for something...quite different: Buyback.

If you buyback a card in your yard with Strip, the card comes back to your hand from the graveyard instead of being removed from play. Effectively it reduces the buyback cost as you'd only have to pay it every *other* time the card is played.

Memory Crystal makes this even more interesting. Unfortunately, the crystal costs 3. If it only cost 2...

There's some combos with things like Clockspinning and Mystic Speculation lets you dig but the deck just doesn't work too well.

River Kelpie looks like it could find a home in this deck.

Some odd mixture of tutor + storm + reanimator + buyback + River Kelpie? Sounds like an EDH deck.

[Rancorous Fool]

current list

4 badlands
4 sulfurous springs
4 RB shockland
3 city of brass

1 tendrils of agony
2 empty the warrens

4 bosium strip

4 gamble
4 right of flame
4 mana morphose
4 cabal ritual
4 dark ritual
4 LED
2 entomb
4 infernal tutor
4 desperate ritual
4 fossil find.

It is as consistant as ANT, 1 turn slower and susceptible to grave hate. Clearly sub-standard for a combo deck.

However, for amusements sake is is fairly fun to play as far as combo, as it is similar to playing grim-long.

[perm]

LED screws up your GY order too much to be useful. Plus, this isn't like dredge where the GY is the goal, it's just your secondary hand. Here is my most recent list:

2 Brainstorm
4 Gamble
4 Manamorphose
4 Desperate Ritual
3 Thoughtseize
3 Duress
1 Inquisition of Kozilek
4 Rite of Flame
2 Intuition
4 Seething Song
3 Fossil Find
4 Bosium Stip
1 Tendrils of Agony
1 Empty the Warrens

1 Academy Ruins
19 Lands

[RexFTW]

Try entomb or burried alive with strip :)

[perm]

Try entomb or burried alive with strip :)

Intuituon is strictly better than buried alive. Entomb maybe, TBH it seems like a waste of of a slot. Maybe I would if i ran counters since it is instant, they cast spell, entomb - >strip - > FoW, but just doesn't seem worth it, since i already have gamble.

ALSO, I am thinking of replacing desperate ritual with dark ritual. Thought?