Deckbuilding Dilemma...

[(nameless one)]

Hello Sourcers,

When I first got into the format, my 1st and original pet deck was an Elf deck. I actually modified it so it played ala X-land Stompy (ran 8-9 Lands and used a lot of fat elves such as Wren's Run Vanquishers and Talara's Batallion backed up with mana producers and Lords). The deck had a successful run. I believe it was the only deck that I've pilot to 3 straight tournaments that went X-X-0. My meta dedicated their sideboard against it and just like that, it was hard for me to win. I then procedeed on completing my Merfolk (I was missing Force of Wills and Wasteland at the time) and Goblins (I was missing Wastelands and Rishadan Ports at the time)

I eventually got bored of aggro and started experimenting with control. At first, I did it through pauper as a test run. I then proceeded on building an Quinn deck. So far, I am enjoying that deck.

It seems that I have forgotten about my Elf deck. I loved Elves and I won't mind piloting it again. I was thinking of changing it into a Survival build. I do have the Elf pieces. At the same time, I have some pieces for Enchantress and Death/Taxes deck.

In this budgeted world of mine, I face a dilemma: if you have $100 to use right now, which of the following with you do?

Thanks for helping... I guess.

[sauce]

buy 2 force of wills and then you can eventually have a good deck.

[stuckpixel]

Ultimately, it comes down to 'what do you want to play'?

I can't answer that for you.

If it was me, I'd probably work on putting together an aggro/aggro control deck - so that means picking up a couple 2-3 fows, or wastelands, or whatever.

[troopatroop]

Buy Natural Orders + a Progenitus. Survival requires that you have green fetches, and Taigas for Anger, so that's more money that Natural Order.

[Some Guy]

Buy something else - (insert suggestions here).

You can blow me for $100


:laugh:

[FoulQ]

$100 can get you some legitimate speakers, a few dorm parties, or (indirectly through dating) hot steamy sex.

Save the $100.

[(nameless one)]

buy 2 force of wills and then you can eventually have a good deck.

I already have a playset of Force of Wills


Buy Natural Orders + a Progenitus. Survival requires that you have green fetches, and Taigas for Anger, so that's more money that Natural Order.

Cool. I will keep that in mind.


$100 can get you some legitimate speakers, a few dorm parties, or (indirectly through dating) hot steamy sex.

Save the $100.

Save the $100 eh? I'll think about that. Maybe some other MtG project of mine will come up.

Thanks for the input guys!

Any more suggestions?

[the Thin White Duke]

Start pimping your Quinn deck.
Shiny white cards are so pretty.

[Aggro_zombies]

Invest the $100 in continuing education classes, thereby improving your resume and allowing you to get a better job that will give you more than $100 discretionary spending.

[jrsthethird]

Buy every Bone Flute in existence.

[Jeff Kruchkow]

Booze. And possibly very cheap hookers.

Or if your set on that whole magic thing, you could round out your deck arsenal and start making combo.

[mchainmail]

Buy every Bone Flute in existence.

Then buy every Twiddle you can find too.


Or just play what you enjoy playing.

[oRen]

Booze. And possibly very cheap hookers.
best suggestion until now because enjoying life >> cards.
for sake do not starting going pimp x.X

[(nameless one)]

Start pimping your Quinn deck.
Shiny white cards are so pretty.

I personally am not a fan of shiny cards outside alternate art cards (and even then, I hate the fact that they are foil)


Invest the $100 in continuing education classes, thereby improving your resume and allowing you to get a better job that will give you more than $100 discretionary spending.

I wish college only costed $100.


Booze. And possibly very cheap hookers.

Or if your set on that whole magic thing, you could round out your deck arsenal and start making combo.

I have a separate money for booze and hookers XD.

I have a LEDless Dredge deck (although it's budget in a way that it doesn't have Leyline of the Void on the side - I borrow it from a buddy when needed). Does that count as a combo deck?


Are elf combo decks viable in the format?

[DragoFireheart]

Save the money, especially since the economy is still doing poorly.

If money is not an issue, get some legacy staples that you do not own?

[Forbiddian]

To make a Legacy deck better, you'll really need more than $100.

If you can't find more, just invest in your dick.

[Nelis]

Pimp your deck or pimp your bitches! (or just buy those Survivals they 're probably $ 200 in a months time)

[General_Norris]

Try to make decks that give you the most staples as possible while not needing to buy too many cards.Quinn is a good deck but unfortunatedly it doesn't have many staples (Just from a monetary point of view, of course).

If you post your list of staples and other relevant cards I think we would be able to give you better advice. If you still have Merlfolk around you should have the Blue package so check any decks you may like with that.

[Kangaxx]

Buy a playset of Show and Tell or Sneak Attack before you won't be able to afford them.

[dahcmai]

I'm a firm believer in buying good manabases. If you decide it needs to go to cards, this is where it's at. I suggest fetchlands since Duals will quickly eat up $100 and fetches will support a lot of decks just running basics. If anything, fetches are the next thing to chase the prices of the duals in my opinion.

[lordofthepit]

I'm a firm believer in buying good manabases. If you decide it needs to go to cards, this is where it's at. I suggest fetchlands since Duals will quickly eat up $100 and fetches will support a lot of decks just running basics. If anything, fetches are the next thing to chase the prices of the duals in my opinion.

I agree with this notion, although I don't think that their prices will rise nearly as quickly.

I said this on another site:


I think fetchlands are even more important than duals--any deck that runs duals will want to run fetches, but the opposite is not necessarily true. Whereas duals only fix your manabase, fetchlands give you other interesting effects (shuffling, graveyard filler, deck thinning). Of the competitive decks that use dual lands, every one that I can think of except for Canadian Threshold typically runs more fetches than duals (8 vs. 6): this list includes Countertop, Zoo (and Goyf Sligh), Aggro Loam, Bant Survival, ANT, Reanimator, Dreadstill, UW Tempo, every Suicide Black variant (Eva Green, Team America), and most Landstill builds. I suppose 43 Lands usually runs slightly more than duals than fetches (5 or 6 vs. 4), but if you're still acquiring staples, I doubt that's a concern for you.

Fortunately, they're also a lot cheaper than dual lands, so I would get them first, although you don't necessarily need a full set of 40 because some of them are redundant. On the other hand, dual lands are more likely to continue rising in price than fetches are, so that would be one reason why you might want to grab duals first.

[Vacrix]

DnT is a great deck. I'd certainly buy it if it only cost me a $100 to finish it. I always feel really comfortable playing with it.

Then again, I agree with dahcmai. The trend is that Legacy prices are going up. You might as well get some duals now before they go up again.

[FoulQ]

Please stop posting, I hate hearing your words.

Leave him alone man. I wasn't keen on him at first, but he's the source's official budget mascot, you can't hate him. He represents an important minority in the legacy community, and I want descriptive representation, dammit!

[Forbiddian]

Leave him alone man. I wasn't keen on him at first, but he's the source's official budget mascot, you can't hate him. He represents an important minority in the legacy community, and I want descriptive representation, dammit!

He's asked at least three times in the UW Tempo thread if the deck works without Tundras/Force of Wills/Jittes....

Frankly if you want a budget deck, you have to make it from the ground up. You can't just budgetefy a deck. And then if you really want to be competitive, you have to be willing to pull out some cash. There are only a few remotely competitive budget decks and they're all noticeably worse than the pretty mediocre non-budget tier 2 decks. But even though they're a lot worse than the non-budget decks (that should be obvious), they're still better than the competitive decks that are stripped of their best cards.

[bakofried]

I'm throwing in my lot with either NO/Progenitus or Fetches. They do a body good.

[(nameless one)]

Leave him alone man. I wasn't keen on him at first, but he's the source's official budget mascot, you can't hate him. He represents an important minority in the legacy community, and I want descriptive representation, dammit!

I think I found a new tag!

All jokes aside, I agree that when it comes to Legacy deck building, budget alternatives should be considered. I know a lot of Standard players are complaining about the price of Legacy and I also believe that its bogus but there are other players there as well that would rather play Legacy because of both budget reasons and knowing that your card won't be useless in two years.


He's asked at least three times in the UW Tempo thread if the deck works without Tundras/Force of Wills/Jittes....

Frankly if you want a budget deck, you have to make it from the ground up. You can't just budgetefy a deck. And then if you really want to be competitive, you have to be willing to pull out some cash. There are only a few remotely competitive budget decks and they're all noticeably worse than the pretty mediocre non-budget tier 2 decks. But even though they're a lot worse than the non-budget decks (that should be obvious), they're still better than the competitive decks that are stripped of their best cards.

In fairness, I've only asked if the deck would be okay with Tundra alternatives (either basics or Hallowed Fountain). I have A playset of FoWs and a couple of Jittes.

But I tried getting staples (unfortunately I didnt get any duals).

But yes, I totally understand your point of view. Not complaining or anything but you make a real good point.

Besides, the point of the thread isn't about budget. The point of the thread is about collection building Legacy-wise.

Thanks for the input though!