Emrakul VS Painter's Servant & Grindstone

[Laertes]

Does Emrakul's ability to shuffle back happen before or after grindstone repeats?

A long time ago in vintage, wordgorger dragon decks would mill their opponents. Sometimes they would run into a Gaea's Blessing. The milling's player planned on forcing his opponent to draw a card when the opponent's library was depleted and blessing's trigger was on the stack. What realistic was does a grindstone deck have to defeat one ( or four) Emrakuls?

Thanks in advance.

[cdr]

Easy, read the (friendly) card.


When Emrakul is put into a graveyard from anywhere, its owner shuffles his or her graveyard into his or her library.

When / Whenever / At = a trigger, if that's where the confusion was.

Contrast to a replacement effect, like on Progenitus:


If Progenitus would be put into a graveyard from anywhere, reveal Progenitus and shuffle it into its owner's library instead.

[mchainmail]

Strategic advice: make them draw a card, or remove their graveyard in response to the trigger.

[Conelead]

It's pretty easy to take care of this. You just do as mchainmail said. Make them draw/remove the Emrakul with the trigger on the stack, since Servant/Stone will dump their entire library into the graveyard at once, so you don't even have to deal with the separate triggers from 4 Emrakuls.

A solitary Relic of Progenitus (and 1 mana up) on the table will solve this problem.

[kusumoto]

Ravenous Trap is another good way to deal with Emrakul when playing Painter.

[whienot]

He may be asking whether each Grindstone repetition is a separate trigger. They are not. Grindstone must completely resolve before the Emrakul trigger can resolve.