What are the best Mystical Tutor replacements for each deck that was effected by this

[Jon Stewart]

With Mystical Tutor banned, now the question is, what cards will take Mystical Tutors role?

The three most likely options I see are...

Personal Tutor - Much more limited by not being able to grab instants.

Cantrips (Brainstorm, Ponder etc)

Intuition - In Reanimator atleast.

Are there any options that I'm missing?



I think Intuition is the best option for B/U Reanimator decks. The deck needs a tutor of some sort, cantrips are just simply too random to get you the answer you need when you need it. And Personal Tutor by being unable to grab Entomb is too narrow. Intuition makes for a slower more controllish version of the deck. But it's also extremely flexible as far as cards go and generates card parity/card advantage. So I think the deck wouldn't be hurt very badly at all.

Mystical Tutor is not a combo piece, it's a tutor for a combo piece.

Other tutors exist.

Intuition is both a combo piece and a tutor, and even a control piece (it grabs daze/fow at instant speed), plus it doesn't cause card disadvantage like Mystical Tutor did.

If speed is what you're worried about, just make room for Dark Ritual in the deck. You will still be able to combo off turn one if you have both combo pieces, or on turn two if you have intution. So it would be just as fast or faster than Mystical Tutor was.

I do expect the deck to see less play. But I also expect a lot of the hate to die down.

Practically my entire meta is either maindecking or sideboarding Faierie Macabre right now. I expect that to go away. I expect Fairie Macabre to disappear for the most part and get replaced with Crypts and Relics which Null Rod stops. And thus I actually expect this deck would perform better in my meta, not worse.

As for being able to tutor up antihate. Yes, you can't tutor up one of silver bullets like you could with Mystical Tutor. But on the other hand, you can now tutor up anti-hate permanents, which is actually a pretty big deal. Permanents actually stick around for the duration of the whole game.

You can tutor up cards like Null Rod which shuts down the bulk of the hate this deck can expect to face now that everyone and their grandmother won't be maindecking Fairie Macabre.

What do you guys think?

[Jon Stewart]

Also, I want to say well done Wizards both regarding the unbannings of Monolith and Mask, and the banning of Mystical. I know a lot of people are pissed about Mystical Tutor getting banned. But I think it was ultimately a smart decision.

I just wanted to say that because I don't want anyone from Wizards reading this forum to collect reactions to think that all Reanimator players are pissed off about the banning.

IMHO, Ad-Nauseum Tendrils was NOT a fun deck to play against. Having a deck like that be the best deck in the format wasn't healthy imo.

Also, Reanimator despite being not all that powerful, is very loathed by many legacy players as well. Iona is really very annoying. And Mystical Tutor fueled many many second turn Ionas. So it's probably better for the format to slow down the turn in which Iona comes into play.

[Piceli89]

http://www.halfpricehobbies.com/catalog/images/lim_duls_vault%5B1%5D.jpg

This. And compared to Mystical, still sucks.

[Jon Stewart]

Good call on Lim Dul's Vault. I think it's probably the best option for ANT.

But I don't see a deck like Reanimator running it. Mystical Tutor was horrible card disadvantage. The fact that it was 1cc made up for it by gaining tempo.

But the second you make it two color and 2cc, card disadvantage tutors lose their viability imo.

The most popular tutored card with M. Tutor was Entomb.

So compare Lim Dul's Vault to Intuition.

Vault into Entomb, cost three mana, and nets you -1 card disadvantage to get one Iona into the yard.

Intuition costs three mana, doesn't create any card disadvantage, and either dumps both an Iona and a Inkwell Leviathan into the yard and puts another Iona in your hand, or dumps 2 Iona's into your yard and puts an Inkwell Leviathan into your yard that you can pitch to FoW.

But more importantly, Intuition can grab you a FoW or Daze or Stifle at instant speed and put it directly into your hand, in response to a Noetic Scales for example.

[ImpinAintEasy]

But more importantly, Intuition can grab you a FoW or Daze or Stifle at instant speed and put it directly into your hand, in response to a Noetic Scales for example.

I think even more importantly is the fact Vault costs life and you are already taking a big enough hit with Reanimate in most cases.

Reanimator will have to move into a more controlling version which imo puts it on the back burner as far as decks I plan on playing. Seems like it will be to slow.

I think what is really interesting is that the banning of mystical affects two of the harder decks to pilot. Is Wotc doing this to attract newer players to Legacy? Probably not, but I find it odd that theses two decks often said to be difficult to pilot are now damaged by the change. Then again, if anything, the bannings will make them even harder to play.

Eh, who knows

The options of replacement are being discussed in the deck threads as well.

[ddt15]

Maybe Merchant Scroll?

[dahcmai]

It's probably not going to be a straight up "I don't get Mystical, jam in Burning Wish or Vault" type thing. You will have to do a little revamping of your deck to make whatever you want to replace it with work seamlessly into the deck.

For Tendrils, I think turning into the direction of Burning Wish is probably the way to go. Red is already a decent color in Tendrils and adding Burning wish gives it a few extra options, but the typical decklist will change quite a bit to work it in.

Reanimator, will end up having to go to Personal Tutor more than likely or Vault since it's on color too and not a sorcery. Maybe people will prefer Merchant Scroll, but either way it goes, it slows the deck down considerably aside from normal dumb good draws.

Luckily, not much past those really used it and Tendrils didn't rely on it that much anyway.

Just keep in mind, nothing is going to just "plug in" and be the replacement.

[Kangaxx]

I think Spanish Inquisition just became the most viable storm combo out there. Aside from Belcher and the inevitable Dragonstorm decks that will rise after the unbanning of Grim Monolith.

[Jak]

Threw all of this I have cum to realize this is there problem not ares, but we get effected and their the only ones that can fix this.

[majikal]

Threw all of this I have cum to realize this is there problem not ares, but we get effected and their the only ones that can fix this.
I lol'd. Well played, sir.

Seriously though, what happened to the format of innovation? Something changes, adapt! Use your brains!

[DragoFireheart]

The correct answer is to decide how best to abuse Metalworker and Grim Monolith.

[Jon Stewart]

The correct answer is to decide how best to abuse Metalworker and Grim Monolith.

What is Voltaic Key + Sundering Titan, Mr. Trebek?

[samurai_socks]

Some possible options:

Artifact
S. D. Top
Scroll Rack

Blue
Mental Note
Ponder
Predict
Personal Tutor
Intuition
Strategic Planning ---> My personal choice.
Hapless Researcher
Gifts Ungiven
Fact or Fiction
Impulse
Merchant Scroll

Black
Buried Alive
Putrid Imp

Gold
Lim Dul's Vault

-Cheers-

[Akuma]

There is no replacement for Mystical Tutor in the existing card pool. You can fill those slots with whatever you think is best, the real question should be: Why would you play Reanimator now that Mystical Tutor is banned? (I'm serious about this, does anyone have a compelling reason to play this deck anymore?)

[Jon Stewart]

Mystical Tutor is not a combo piece, it's a tutor for a combo piece.

Other tutors exist.

Intuition is both a combo piece and a tutor, and even a control piece (it grabs daze/fow at instant speed), plus it doesn't cause card disadvantage like Mystical Tutor did.

If speed is what you're worried about, just make room for Dark Ritual in the deck. You will still be able to combo off turn one if you have both combo pieces, or on turn two if you have intution. So it would be just as fast or faster than Mystical Tutor was.

I do expect the deck to see less play. But I also expect a lot of the hate to die down.

Practically my entire meta is either maindecking or sideboarding Faierie Macabre right now. I expect that to go away. I expect Fairie Macabre to disappear for the most part and get replaced with Crypts and Relics which Null Rod stops. And thus I actually expect this deck would perform better in my meta, not worse.

As for being able to tutor up antihate. Yes, you can't tutor up one of silver bullets like you could with Mystical Tutor. But on the other hand, you can now tutor up anti-hate permanents, which is actually a pretty big deal. Permanents actually stick around for the duration of the whole game.

You can tutor up cards like Null Rod which shuts down the bulk of the hate this deck can expect to face now that everyone and their grandmother won't be maindecking Fairie Macabre.

[Justin]

I agree that Personal Tutor is probably a poor substitute for Mystical Tutor for Re-animator and ANT. However, Personal Tutor isn't bad for Show and Tell decks. It gets you the card that you need to win and it can still grab Ponder if you are in search of a big guy. So it effectively functions as Show and Tell (5-8).

[Brushwagg]

Mystical Tutor is not a combo piece, it's a tutor for a combo piece.

Other tutors exist.



All the tutors the card pool has now don't function like Mystical Tutor and if the do something kind of like it, it falls way short.

Reanimator would be able to Tutor in there upkeep for Entomb and win that turn.

As far as the banning goes I think it's more of a nod toward Reanimator being able to pull some really good stuff on turn one. While it did give storm a hit, it's really not that bad. For a while Mystical was banned/not played in storm decks and they still went broken.

I'm just happy that they didn't hit Burning Wish(again). If BW went away then Storm would be DEAD and Bryant would cry.

[jiazhouhuaqiao]

Reclaim: It doesn't do anything for you if you're missing a combo piece but it does the same thing for the same cost in terms of feeding storm count.

[marclark]

There is obviously only one solution, Sell you LED's now and buy RESETS!!!! =D

[Noman Peopled]

With Mystical Tutor banned, now the question is, what cards will take Mystical Tutors role?

The three most likely options I see are...

Personal Tutor - Much more limited by not being able to grab instants.

Cantrips (Brainstorm, Ponder etc)

Intuition - In Reanimator atleast.

Are there any options that I'm missing?
Cunning Wish
Burning Wish
Spoils from the Vault
Plunge into Darkness
Infernal Tutor