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jnosrati
07-11-2010, 01:52 PM
A few days ago i thought of this combo, and it seems like the deck has a lot of outs. However, it is severly dependant on painters servant, as is painter+grindstone combo in general. I think this can work.

Basically, I want to take that deck and add NO, calling green with painter servant will allow you to NO in an iona to lock your opponent out. Also, i think we can have grindstone stay in just for fun.

basic combo
4 painters servant
4 grindstone

new combo:
4 NO
1 iona

Backup plan:
1 progenitus


Also, we want to call painter on green, but is it worth having blasts? painter on blue or red for blasts doesnt sound bad + we can always call green vs blue decks and still have red blasts working. multiple painters are also good.

decklist :

4 mother of runes -can be saced to no with painter active; keep painter alive
4: noble hierarch -get no turn 3, exalted trigger on RWM, sac to NO
4: No-get iona or progenitus(if needed)
4: painters servant-heart of the deck
4: grindstone-wins with painter
1: iona-wins with painter, NO target if painter is on green
1: progenitus, backup plan if iona wont do it.
4: enlightened tutor, get painter or grindstone, maybe get moat or propoganda(seems better, can pitch to fow)
2: echoing truth
4: Rhox war monk
4: tarmogoyf
4: fow
4: daze
-4 cards need to be cut...maybe 2 rwm a tutor, and an echoing truth.


lands:
2: tropical island
2: savannah
2: tundra
1:horizon canopy
3:windswept heath
3: misty rainforest
3: flooded strand
1: dryad arbor

other ideas: propoganda, moat, swords(life is irrelevant usually), spell pierce, jace 2.0(bounce is good post iona too, but et should be fine), blasts(ie 1 mana vindicate), trinket mage, brainstorm.

I really want room for blasts in this build. I dont know if I can.

red for that portal 3 card seems to be the general build, i want to see if i can build without it or harness it but not be as dependant on it.

kinda
07-11-2010, 01:55 PM
Mono blue natural order? This is my new favorite deck.

ykpon
07-11-2010, 02:25 PM
If you are going to sacrifice a Servant for NO, then you aren't able to find Iona. Unless you have two Servants in play obv.

jnosrati
07-11-2010, 03:30 PM
hence the noble hierarch/ trinket mage

jnosrati
07-11-2010, 03:31 PM
well i guess it cantbe mono, because you still need green mana for no....

DrJones
07-11-2010, 03:59 PM
I would add mother of the runes and that white knight that counters black spells paying one life. And of course, Enlightened Tutor

HumphreyBogardan
07-12-2010, 07:21 PM
Somewhere Scrooge McDuck is smiling at all the greed trying to be squeezed into this deck. I like it although it seems like you need 8 green creatures for this to function. 4x bop or noble plus some painters seems too low to functionally cast NO. You might consider dryad arbor too since it's essentially tutor worthy in a bind.

jnosrati
07-12-2010, 07:31 PM
there is both goyf and rwm

EssKay
07-12-2010, 07:40 PM
What about B/G with NO, Painter, and....wait for it...Deathgrip.

jnosrati
07-12-2010, 07:44 PM
I think it's harder to protect, but interesting

jnosrati
07-12-2010, 07:57 PM
this is an interesting list too...just for ideas
// Lands
7 Island
4 Flooded Strand
3 Polluted Delta
3 Tundra
1 Academy Ruins

// Creatures
4 Painter's Servant
3 Phyrexian Dreadnought
3 Trinket Mage

// Enchantments
4 Counterbalance
1 Oblivion Ring

// Spells
4 Brainstorm
4 Enlightened Tutor
4 Force of Will
4 Stifle
2 Trickbind
2 Ponder

// Artifacts
1 Engineered Explosives
3 Grindstone
3 Sensei's Divining Top

// Sideboard
2 Blue Elemental Blast
1 Chill
3 Echoing Truth
1 Engineered Explosives
2 Hydroblast
2 Pithing Needle
1 Seal of Cleansing
1 Serenity
2 Tormod's Crypt