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jnosrati
07-15-2010, 02:05 PM
so I want to start talking about breaking this leyline.

so far things that look interesting are creatures and discard. duressing during draw step has got to be broken.

before I come up with a list i want some ideas

heres what im thinking

leyline
duress
thoughtseize
inquisition of kozilek
extirpate
goyf
counters


maybe mana ramping into more of a landstillish build with damnation
maybe no green?
non creature win condition
jace 2.0?
I feel like these are ideas, but still not viable enough. lets hear yours'

SageOwl
07-15-2010, 02:59 PM
Seedborn Muse, Bounce stuff like Cloudstone Curio, Survival, Mystic Snake......

Red_Death01
07-16-2010, 03:49 AM
Planeswalkers in a deck like this would probably be a No simply because you can't use their abilities even with this out- though you could cast one on your opponent's turns...

As far as cards that come to mind:

Act of Treason
Augur of Skulls
Æther Rift


Even these though dont really abuse the leyline... There has to be some card out there that makes it a nightmare for your opponent.

Volrath
07-16-2010, 03:52 AM
Necrologia.

Instant speed win, that can be backed up by Force of will, unlike other combo decks.

kicks_422
07-16-2010, 04:07 AM
Necrologia.

Instant speed win, that can be backed up by Force of will, unlike other combo decks.

Too clunky. I've tried.

KærvekTheMerciless
07-16-2010, 07:42 AM
Even these though dont really abuse the leyline... There has to be some card out there that makes it a nightmare for your opponent.

Tunnel Vision

Is it just me or is it time we started punishing these guys who decide that 1 of anything is a good idea?

jnosrati
07-16-2010, 02:51 PM
necrologia seems liek a sub par combo to barely change tendrils by playing 2 cards over ad nauseum.

Volrath
07-16-2010, 02:54 PM
Necrologia allows you to play force of will, that's a big plus.

ScatmanX
07-16-2010, 02:58 PM
Card Name:
Necrologia

Card Text:
Cast Necrologia only during your end step.
As an additional cost to cast Necrologia, pay X life.
Draw X cards.

I dont get it. Isnt it an instant already?
We can't use it in the end of the opponent turn if that was the catch...

EDIT: Got it! Thanks!

Volrath
07-16-2010, 03:22 PM
Tendrills becoms an instant, petals, moxen and leds become instants, tutors too.
Now, you can't cast these teh same turn as necrologia, with flash, you can.

Vacrix
07-16-2010, 03:25 PM
Sure, but the problem is that you need it in hand on turn 0. That means you need to Mulligan into it. Then you have to hope you already have the combo in hand and not a bunch of junk. Without Mystical Tutor, there isn't a reliable way to guarantee you will have Necrologia in hand. Its just not a deck that works.

Mono_Thematic
07-17-2010, 04:25 PM
Could you drop a Standstill in response to an opponents spell to immediately draw up 3 cards?

AlterEgo
07-17-2010, 04:35 PM
When you get priority to do so, his spell is already cast and can't trigger Standstill anymore.

SageOwl
07-17-2010, 08:19 PM
Its good with discard.....

Ciberon
07-17-2010, 10:24 PM
I'm not sure about you, but I know I have games where I don't want to start with one less card in hand to have it all instant speed. If you want it all at instant speed, play faeries.

Landstill could kind of abuse it, I guess.