[SCD] Wurmcoil Engine

[Volrath]

Yust got spoiled on a japanese forum, and then on salvation.

Wurmcoil Engine :6:

Artifact Creature-Wurm

deathtouch, lifelink
when [cardname] go to graveyard from play, put a 3/3 artifact wurm token with deathtouch, and(might be 'or', the pic isn't very clear) a 3/3 artifact wurm token with lifelink into play.
6/6


Most people agree on 2 tokens.

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=267601

[Gheizen64]

Wow strong. Not in Legacy, but really strong. It trade with anything and even if it die it give you 6 life + 2 3/3 tokens. It's lol with welder as it generate infinite tokens given infinite turns, but sadly welder isn't that playable in this format.

[Vacrix]

What? This isn't strong in legacy? Brown Stompy is going to love this guy. He locks aggro out of the game. He will usually be bigger than Goyf, and trades with anything larger, and aiming burn at him is only so effective.

[Aggro_zombies]

What? This isn't strong in legacy? Brown Stompy is going to love this guy. He locks aggro out of the game. He will usually be bigger than Goyf, and trades with anything larger, and aiming burn at him is only so effective.
If I had a nickel for every time someone saw a preview and thought it would be good in X Stompy/Stax...

This guy costs six. He is not good enough in this format.

[Ben]

It's good but there are better big creatures than this in Legacy formate.

Won't even fit in reanimator or SnT decks.

Would be fun to use with sneak attack but Emrakul is just way better

[Humphrey]

http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/showthread.php?18703-[SOM]Spoiler-Discussion

[GGoober]

If I had a nickel for every time someone saw a preview and thought it would be good in X Stompy/Stax...

This guy costs six. He is not good enough in this format.


And Emrakul costs 15, he's not good enough in the format.

If something is overcosted in Legacy, it usually isn't hardcasted and if it's hardcasted it's via legacy mana acceleration (metalworker, grim monolith, tombs etc)

Stompy with Metalworker benefits with this beater although not sure if they would need it if they're going lockdown style.

All I know, it's going to make my Welder Survival pet deck more fun to play with. I think Wurmcoil Engine gives two 3/3, otherwise why the 'engine' in the name?

[Volrath]

I think Wurmcoil Engine gives two 3/3, otherwise why the 'engine' in the name?

Phyrexian's had the habbit of taking an organism and turning it into an machine, like Dragon egine's and witch engine's, these things where often called engines.

[Aggro_zombies]

And Emrakul costs 15, he's not good enough in the format.

If something is overcosted in Legacy, it usually isn't hardcasted and if it's hardcasted it's via legacy mana acceleration (metalworker, grim monolith, tombs etc)

Stompy with Metalworker benefits with this beater although not sure if they would need it if they're going lockdown style.

All I know, it's going to make my Welder Survival pet deck more fun to play with. I think Wurmcoil Engine gives two 3/3, otherwise why the 'engine' in the name?
Yes, but Emrakul is 2.5 times larger than this guy, has evasion, and eliminates all or most of your opponent's board when it attacks. This guy, on the other hand...

He's basically not worth cheating into play. If you're going the mono-brown Metalworker route, why not Sundering Titan, to destroy all of your opponent's lands? Why not Kozilek, to draw four cards? Why not Mindslaver, to win? Basically, this card isn't better than any of the options you currently have. It doesn't even do a good job of disuading the opponent from attacking, especially if there's Tarmogoyfs and Knights involved (whereas something like Propaganda or Tangle Wire would). You don't get any value out of it if it dies to Swords (unlike the aforementioned Titan and Eldrazi), it doesn't win the game nearly as well as Mindslaver does, and the 3/3 tokens are too easy to ignore in this format.

For six mana, it just doesn't do enough. You might as well go bigger and cheat a card into play that actually has an immediate effect on the game.

[kiblast]

if it was cc4 4/4 death touch lifelink that provided 2 2/2 then it would be good in 5/3 stax.

[Vacrix]

If I had a nickel for every time someone saw a preview and thought it would be good in X Stompy/Stax...

This guy costs six. He is not good enough in this format.
To an extent I agree. If you really want to you could just blow your opponents board with All is Dust for an investment of 1 more mana. Then again.. I can see this guy getting played as a 2-of. Lifelink in Stax sounds really good. Ancient Tomb and early damage from aggro can really hurt. You don't want Zoo to burn you out because you didn't draw that CotV or 3sphere.

[Aggro_zombies]

To an extent I agree. If you really want to you could just blow your opponents board with All is Dust for an investment of 1 more mana. Then again.. I can see this guy getting played as a 2-of. Lifelink in Stax sounds really good. Ancient Tomb and early damage from aggro can really hurt. You don't want Zoo to burn you out because you didn't draw that CotV or 3sphere.
Why not Baneslayer for 1 less? Sure, :w::w:, but your opponent can't blow you out with Pridemage or Grip (look, two guys that die immediately to anything I attack with!) and Baneslayer has evasion to actually, you know, put the other guy on a clock.

Besides, even if this guy gets played in Stax, that deck will still suck. There is literally nothing they could print to make Stax good that would not break the format in half in some way.

[Infinitium]

I can see this getting played in Wildfire decks. Stalls Zoo, annoys control, survives Devastation after a fashion.

[sco0ter]

All I know, it's going to make my Welder Survival pet deck more fun to play with. I think Wurmcoil Engine gives two 3/3, otherwise why the 'engine' in the name?

This was my first thought, too. He just looks sick with Welder. Though I am not sure, if it is better than Sphinx or Duplicant.

Otherwise I think, this guy is too ineffective to be hardcasted.

[PanderAlexander]

And Emrakul costs 15, he's not good enough in the format.

If something is overcosted in Legacy, it usually isn't hardcasted and if it's hardcasted it's via legacy mana acceleration (metalworker, grim monolith, tombs etc)



Emrakul also has protection from spells which is huge in legacy with all the swords and paths roaming around, Wurmcoil gets removed from game, no baby tokens :frown:

[Grollub]

If I had a nickel for every time someone saw a preview and thought it would be good in X Stompy/Stax...

This guy costs six. He is not good enough in this format.

Well, alot of those cards are good in Stompy/MUD shells. The deck just lacks that little oomph to be viable, if they keep up printing useful cards it's almost bound to be a tier deck eventually. ;)

Gut instinct: better than Trike in Legacy, interesting with Ravager and/or Welder. Should improve the matchup against aggro a smidge.

I for one hope it's a herald for a penumbral theme - "XYZ Engine" for artifact creatures.

[Malchar]

if it was cc4 4/4 death touch lifelink that provided 2 2/2 then it would be good in 5/3 stax.

This is exactly what I was thinking. The card is too small to warrant cheating it into play, but it's too expensive to cast directly. Perhaps the only saving grace is that 6 (and then 3) lifelink is really good against aggro. Maybe if metalworker were a little more viable or if we had a little bit more colorless mana acceleration then it would work. It's definitely a cool card though.

[dahcmai]

I hate Stax. I'm putting him in a deck with Goblins welders to abuse the crap out of him though. He's an engine all right. Creature spam engine.