Dominating Licid and Krosan Grip

[Kagehisa]

Dominating Licid :
1UU
Types: Creature — Licid

1UU, Tap : Dominating Licid loses this ability and becomes an Aura enchantment with enchant creature. Attach it to target creature. You may pay U to end this effect.

You control enchanted creature.

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Krosan Grip :
2G
Types: Instant

Split second (As long as this spell is on the stack, players can't cast spells or activate abilities that aren't mana abilities.)

Destroy target artifact or enchantment.

I played with a random French guy today with "legacy rules". I was playing MUC, etc.

I used Licid to steal his creature. 2 or 3 turns after, he used Krosan Grip on the Licid. I payed U to end the Licid's transformation in response. He explained me about the split second rule (written on the card) that I could not "activate" the Licid's end effect.

I told him I was just paying U to end the effect and not activating anything (except the mana ability of my Island). He made me doubt... My french (and my english) sux. I let him destroy my Licid. :(

The question : Can I end the Dominating Licid's effect to make it become a creature (illegal target for Korsan Grip) to counter Krosan Grip that has split second ?

Please answer. Thank you in advance.

[luma]

Yes, you can. Paying U to end Dominating Licid's effect is a special action, which you can take any time you have priority. Split second only stops you from casting spells and activating abilities (except mana abilities), so you can pay for the Licid, so it will become a creature again. Krosan Grip is then countered on resolution for having an illegal target.

[Offler]

When i read the card carefully i understood why the "ending of effect" is not activation cost. Activation costs are followed by ":" and this is not the case.

However this information is not mentioned on gatherer in rulings, and no one in our playgroup is aware of this rule. (as always)

Since i had many problems with local guys here is there some MTG guide which can contain some of these information? I have read the comprehensive rules, but one cant be aware of situations like this one.

There is but one player aware of old rules and old cards and he cannot spent all his time with me teaching me rules.

[heroicraptor]

When i read the card carefully i understood why the "ending of effect" is not activation cost. Activation costs are followed by ":" and this is not the case.

However this information is not mentioned on gatherer in rulings, and no one in our playgroup is aware of this rule. (as always)

Since i had many problems with local guys here is there some MTG guide which can contain some of these information? I have read the comprehensive rules, but one cant be aware of situations like this one.

There is but one player aware of old rules and old cards and he cannot spent all his time with me teaching me rules.

115.2c Some effects allow a player to take an action at a later time, usually to end a continuous effect or to stop a delayed triggered ability from triggering. Doing so is a special action. A player can take such an action any time he or she has priority, but only if the ability or effect allows it.

[Offler]

Usual problem is that people here believe that turning licid into enchantnent is activated ability, licid enchanting the permanent is an enchantment with static ability (so far so good) and with activated ability to turn it back into creature. And that's the problem.

Card and gatherer texts are correct, the rule you mentioned surely apply.

However classical arguing will look like "the card is old, you have to check the gatherer, i am sure that the text has changed".