GerMagic.de and Deckcheck.net wil go offline on 22.oct.

[Rigero]

Hi,

Maybe some of you would like to know:

The German Community Site : GerMagic.de will go offline, cause of the actual WPN anouncement. With this site Deckcheck.net will also go offline. This means there will be no International Site with Decklists anymore. EvilBernd doesn't want to give out the Data, so the decklists will be simply lost.

"Please note: Because of recent activities from WotC's side (for smaller parts this (http://magicdraftsim.com/) and for bigger parts this (http://www.mananation.com/wpn-tos-store-affiliated/)), this site will be taken down on October, 22nd. It's my decision and not some sort of take-down from Hasbro. I do it, because I don't support a game, that doesn't support its players. I will not sell the site, the domain, or my database, so please refrain from asking.

A big "Thank you very very much!!" to all the players, TOs and judges who submitted decklists and who supported this site during its time being.

Yours truly, EvilBernd."


I hope he will made up his mind in the next few days, otherwise it will be a great loss for the magic communtiy.

[Purgatory]

I think it's pointless to - as a reaction to sites being closed down - close down even more sites that don't affect WotC, just the community.

[Pastorofmuppets]

So... What?
Why the closing of the sites?

[Rigero]

Event's like Prerelease and some other events like gateway (Premier Events .. FNM and so on), cannot take place anymore without a Store. Which means in some citys will be no more tournaments. There was also some other little things in the past, why Evilbernd doesn#t want to go on with this sites.

[caiomarcos]

What was magicdraftsim.com? Why was it shut down?

And what is the relation between limiting events to stores and closing websites?

[Rigero]

I do it, because I don't support a game, that doesn't support its players.

This (http://www.mtgblogs.de/burned?p=2285) is the Link to his Blog (it's in german).

And yes there is no real relation and at least with this decision he also doesn't support the players.

[sdematt]

So he's making a stand by screwing the community over? Nice job. Doesn't really seem to make sense to me, to be honest. I understand this decision sucks, but petition against Wizards to change it, don't screw over the people who still want to play.

-Matt

[atropos]

That is terrible news. Deckcheck is such an important staple in the Magic community. Does anybody else know of a viable substitute site?

[Zunam]

I think the point why EvilBernd is closing his sites is that he is one of those tournament organizers without a shop and will be screwed by the changes.

After putting a lot of work into the community for years (which he has done for free without getting paid for it) and therefore also indirectly supporting WotC I can actually understand why he is pissed even though I don't like his decision and reaction.

[Ciberon]

Hmm... Maybe we could start building one? Anyone who wants to be a part of the project leave me a PM. We only have some days to export the decklists from deckcheck before it closes.

[cdr]

You could scrape the lists from deckcheck in a matter of hours, tops - I assume some people already are.

The real problem with running a site like deckcheck is the amount of work the data entry for new lists takes.

[Heresy]

I didn't believe it the first time I went on Deckcheck today... such a loss for every netdeckers. I hope someone will take the job.

[ummon]

OMG this is extremely sad. Both the WoTC decision and the Deckcheck.net reaction.

[Nekrataal]

I respect EB's decision because he was a great organizer and supporter for Magic in my local area. His work has been severly crippled by the announcement and seeing the love and effort he has put into the game during the years WOTC just slammed the door shut in his face yelling: "Shit on you!". However I also read defiance in his reaction and personally feel it is not right to drag the communit yand the knowledge deckcheck provides down with him.

I have crawled and stored lecagy data from deckcheck since beginning of the year but it is a major setback for my legacy statistics since it relies on it a lot. Also the DTB sections on TheSource had like 80% decks listed on deckcheck as source for analysis. It will become much harder now to track down a relevant number of legacy tourneys. The problem is NOT to provide a website that can technically host the same functionality but to gain enough publicity along with the confidence and trust of all players that not the same is happening to their work putting decklists online again.

[cdr]

Certainly, I don't think anyone would trust anything the guy does in the future after this stunt.

[menace13]

I thought initially when fist reading the post, why wouldn't anyone sell the site if they were not going to continue? After dwelling on it, I can understand and I thought of all that hardwork for something that does not pay and that must be a ton of hours the guy spent to suddenly, with not only a failure to receive any warnings, but also a complete lack of any consolation support. In light of his predicament, he is nice enough to permit a week for anyone to collect all the data for free.

[ummon]

I respect EB's decision because he was a great organizer and supporter for Magic in my local area. His work has been severly crippled by the announcement and seeing the love and effort he has put into the game during the years WOTC just slammed the door shut in his face yelling: "Shit on you!". However I also read defiance in his reaction and personally feel it is not right to drag the communit yand the knowledge deckcheck provides down with him.

I have crawled and stored lecagy data from deckcheck since beginning of the year but it is a major setback for my legacy statistics since it relies on it a lot. Also the DTB sections on TheSource had like 80% decks listed on deckcheck as source for analysis. It will become much harder now to track down a relevant number of legacy tourneys. The problem is NOT to provide a website that can technically host the same functionality but to gain enough publicity along with the confidence and trust of all players that not the same is happening to their work putting decklists online again.

Yup. I can understand if he no longer wanted to spend his time hosting this stuff, but he could have transferred ownership to someone. :(

For the time being, I'm thinking of crawling the Deckcheck.net database and archiving the webpages.

[Valdez]

Hmm... Maybe we could start building one? Anyone who wants to be a part of the project leave me a PM. We only have some days to export the decklists from deckcheck before it closes.
Error, the Admin of "Mtg-forum.de" a german Community has offerd to launch a new Database, if he can't convince EvilBernd to save Deckcheck.

You could scrape the lists from deckcheck in a matter of hours, tops - I assume some people already are.

The real problem with running a site like deckcheck is the amount of work the data entry for new lists takes.
Some of the guys, responsible for the Legacy and Standard Decklists @ Deckcheck have already offered to continue their work.

//€: The whole Deckcheck-Legacy team will support the-Mtg-Forum.de-database Projekt.

[4eak]

I've spoken directly with the admin several times about his data in the past. He doesn't like sharing. My reaction back then: Son, I am disappoint. I'm not surprised by his current reaction.

For anyone who wants the data (in the easiest to acquire form), just use a offline browser or crawling tool which downloads the entire site. A fast connection will have in it all in an hour. I don't have to time to adjust my old scraper at this very moment, so I'm going to have to just crawl myself. The data won't be lost.

I hope that a new place for tournament data submission with a real team of people to organize the data will pop up fast. There are ways to avoid WotC's aggressive IP protection that we may need to employ to ensure we have no future problems. That might sound paranoid, but clearly WotC are control-freaks enough to take down independent metadata. The next database should be extremely difficult to take down (legally, and otherwise).



peace,
4eak

[Meekrab]

That is seriously some stupid policy from WotC. They sure aren't helping their reputation for making ridiculous decisions.

[DalkonCledwin]

There are ways to avoid WotC's aggressive IP protection that we may need to employ to ensure we have no future problems. That might sound paranoid, but clearly WotC are control-freaks enough to take down independent metadata. The next database should be extremely difficult to take down (legally, and otherwise).

If you read Deckcheck.net's notice of departure... then you will notice that he specifically goes out of his way to state that it was not a order from Hasbro Legal or WotC Legal that made him decide to close down Deckcheck.net. Rather it was their policy regarding Tournament Organizer's and their actions against another website that convinced him to take down his own website.

[4eak]

If you read Deckcheck.net's notice of departure... then you will notice that he specifically goes out of his way to state that it was not a order from Hasbro Legal or WotC Legal that made him decide to close down Deckcheck.net. Rather it was their policy regarding Tournament Organizer's and their actions against another website that convinced him to take down his own website.

Aye. I read it. It seemed in line with the reasoning I've given.

You'll notice I was considering both legal reasons and others (both of which were cited in the notice of departure). Even those who don't feel they are directly coerced can admit they are indirectly pressured. Perhaps we disagree about the implications of WotC's actions or even more foundational issues about IP. Obviously, I fall directly on one side of the fence when it comes to the correctness of IP-law and historical practices of many patent and copyright holders. Grant me such premises, and you'll find the conclusions in my original comments are pretty reasonable.



peace,
4eak

[DalkonCledwin]

Personally I think that WotC and by proxy Hasbro are taking their attempts to protect their Intellectual Property way way too far. I understand why they do it. However doing so at the risk of alienating ones consumers is never a good idea when one is reliant on those consumers to stay in business. Granted Hasbro may not be reliant on us. But WotC is probably going to need our business if it wants to keep Hasbro interested in keeping them around.

[dschalter]

That is seriously some stupid policy from WotC. They sure aren't helping their reputation for making ridiculous decisions.

First, Magicdraftsim was leeching from Wizards. Not really a great way to survive if you want to have a website that revolves around doing (a bad version of) something for free that Wizards wants you to pay for.

The TO decision is extremely dumb, yes, but the reaction is the very definition of childishness.

[cdr]

It seems to me that the deckcheck guy is using WotC's IP enforcement as misdirection. I see absolutely no link between deckcheck and IP enforcement. It's a red herring.

[DalkonCledwin]

It seems to me that the deckcheck guy is using WotC's IP enforcement as misdirection. I see absolutely no link between deckcheck and IP enforcement. It's a red herring.

I tend to agree. There is no link as near as I can tell. He just seems at worst to be pissed that a friend of his got his website taken down and is reacting in the worst possible manner about it.

[Suguru]

For anyone who wants the data (in the easiest to acquire form), just use a offline browser or crawling tool which downloads the entire site. A fast connection will have in it all in an hour. I don't have to time to adjust my old scraper at this very moment, so I'm going to have to just crawl myself. The data won't be lost.


If someone does so, could thas someone please paste a link here to an ISO file of the website? I am trying, but I am having problems trying to get it...

[Ciberon]

If someone does so, could thas someone please paste a link here to an ISO file of the website? I am trying, but I am having problems trying to get it...

I'd need that too, since I've already started building the decklists site.

I already have the database and the deck pages operational. Now I need to build the scripts for adding new events and make the site good looking and I'll be done.

[socialite]

Updating to the site has been rather lack luster for the past few months. My use of it has been waning over the past year or two.

It also seems to me as though this guy is making a huge fit over nothing.

[CoryWM]

The guy was making money. WIth as much use as deck check got. His google adsense account was making him money. A unique page impression every time someone clicked on any deck. As thats where the adds were.

[Nidd]

If a store says WotC that they are organizing the tournaments at EB's location, he can go on.

That's what will be done in my home city.

[Bardo]

It seems to me that the deckcheck guy is using WotC's IP enforcement as misdirection. I see absolutely no link between deckcheck and IP enforcement. It's a red herring.

Exactly. I was going to call that out but you've already done so.

This isn't about Hasbro's policy on infringement of their intellectual property, it's about their attempt to create the local / small-scale organized play environment they want.

DeckCheck was collateral damage -- which is a pity because it was a total fucking gold mine.

[DalkonCledwin]

the only question I have is how seriously did this event damage the Decks to Beat / Decks to Watch Forum here on The Source?

[ummon]

the only question I have is how seriously did this event damage the Decks to Beat / Decks to Watch Forum here on The Source?

Not too seriously. The source for American legacy tournaments that Deckcheck.net uses is The Source, and the large European tourneys are also posted here.

[Zlatzman]

If someone does so, could thas someone please paste a link here to an ISO file of the website? I am trying, but I am having problems trying to get it...
I've extracted most of the deck-data from Deckcheck, however due to some scripting errors not all tournament data was correctly extracted. I'll see if I can fix the data before uploading it, or wait to see if someone else has properly extracted the data.

[Sintheros]

You are a savior if it all comes out okay. Put control over the lists in the hands of someone who cares about the lists.

[pippo84]

This sucks.

Really. The website was good and a useful source to understand the meta better, compare the lists and so on.

What a shame.

[Tangle.Wire]

/edit WotC=Microsoft thats all i feel about it at the moment.

[pechunato]

Can anyone access any list at all? Every link redirects to the home page, even if it isn't October 22 yet.

[Rigero]

Yes he has redirected any links to the home page. So no one is able to access any Lists anymore.

[Cabal_chan]

No, I keep getting redirected. The guy should have just taken the site down immediately, if he wants to act that childish about it.

[ummon]

No, I keep getting redirected. The guy should have just taken the site down immediately, if he wants to act that childish about it.

Yeah. I don't understand what the hell he is doing now. He said he would take it down on Oct. 22. But he has for all practical purposes taken it down already. Let's just hope our people got some good crawls done before that.

[CorpT]

Yeah. I don't understand what the hell he is doing now. He said he would take it down on Oct. 22. But he has for all practical purposes taken it down already. Let's just hope our people got some good crawls done before that.

Looks like he's upset he's not getting more sympathy/attention for his temper tantrum.

[DragoFireheart]

Suggestions for deck lists sites in the mean time?

[Cabal_chan]

Suggestions for deck lists sites in the mean time?

Don't know of many off hand.

emidln may be trying to make a deck database himself. Should it get up and running, we can use that(of course, we'd have to enter stuff in too+spread the word).

[Koby]

www.morphling.de

While it only shows limited amount of events (mostly Europe), it is a great resource for Legacy and Vintage lists. I'm not sure how long it will remain up considering the ball is already rolling.

[Zlatzman]

You are a savior if it all comes out okay. Put control over the lists in the hands of someone who cares about the lists.
Since deckcheck now doesn't work I can't fix the data I have collected sadly, which means tournament information will be unavailable for a lot of the decklists. If someone still want it I can send it by email or upload it somewhere. If you want it uploaded, could you please point me to a site where I can upload it?

The data consists of a lot of plain text files, one for every deck on deckcheck. Formatted like so:


Name: Bazaar of Madness
Author: Manolack Hacault
Format: Vintage Archive
Art: aggro
Decktype: Madness

Tournament: D�lmen Dezember 2004
Date: 19. Dec 2004
Place: 3rd
Participants: 128

*decklist*


The broken data is missing placing and number of participants for the tournament, replacing it with the word "Source:" due to an error on my part.

Before the data is really usable it would need to be entered into a database to make it easily readable. I don't really know how to do that.

[humppa]

It is sad that data from community was dropped by one guy. I hope the next deck community database will be more open for the community.

[Sims]

Looks like he's upset he's not getting more sympathy/attention for his temper tantrum.

More likely, he had said that he did not want to sell or give away the data he had stored. Soon as he realized people were crawling and datamining the site in an attempt to gather all the infromation, he immediately started redirecting all deck links to the main page to keep people from doing it further. In this way he tries to retain his control over it and hold the information essentially hostage in protest of what WoTC's policy about TO's.

He was likely going to try and barter the information later on, or attempt to, but I doubt the information will really be worthwhile now. I'm sure more people than just the users of this site have already crawled and archived the entire site by now.

[Nekrataal]

I have Legacy decks in my database from 01/2010 on that I used for the stats I post regularly on german forums (and sometimes here). This includes also complete DC lists from that date on (Legacy only). However I think that this data will be soon outdated. Nobody cares about the meta game from 3 month ago.

[Cabal_chan]

More likely, he had said that he did not want to sell or give away the data he had stored. Soon as he realized people were crawling and datamining the site in an attempt to gather all the infromation, he immediately started redirecting all deck links to the main page to keep people from doing it further. In this way he tries to retain his control over it and hold the information essentially hostage in protest of what WoTC's policy about TO's.

He was likely going to try and barter the information later on, or attempt to, but I doubt the information will really be worthwhile now. I'm sure more people than just the users of this site have already crawled and archived the entire site by now.

He's going about it in a rather awkward way. WotC isn't likely to care all that much, and he's probably gotten the community more angry at him than WotC.

[Linkin Pac]

Since deckcheck now doesn't work I can't fix the data I have collected sadly, which means tournament information will be unavailable for a lot of the decklists. If someone still want it I can send it by email or upload it somewhere. If you want it uploaded, could you please point me to a site where I can upload it?

Could you send me the decklists that you have? A good uploading site is megaupload.com. The data would be greatly appreciated.

[Hof]

All is still in Google cache..

[Seraph2k]

The site is down :(

[Gaius Darkfire]

What a shame. The Deckcheck guy doing this is very unfortunate, but I cant help but feel for the little guys that are running tournaments that arent as public over this change as these websites. I started the trend of our magic club at Uni being sanctioned and getting FNM and release tournament promos for people, but since the club isnt connected to a store they're going to get screwed with this new policy. I'm sure there are plenty of TO's that are similarly going to be out of luck.

[LegacyDan]

:frown:


That was such a great website. Now what tha hell am I gonna use as a database for every format?

[paulmaster]

Hi, i have launched the Beta version of a new web deck database, i hope people begin to send his decks.

TC Decks (http://www.thecouncil.es/tcdecks/)

[nedleeds]

Suggestions for deck lists sites in the mean time?

Create a deck?

[menace13]

Create a deck?
Pfft. Who does that? This is America god-dammit, i have more urgent matters to attend to. Like, Jersey Shore and Dancing with the Stars.:tongue:

It was a great resource and was sometihng i checked every few days. Morphling and TCG player are the only ones i can think of now, but those are mostly for Vintage and Standard, Morphling has few updates in contrast to deckcheck on Legacy.

[Bardo]

RIP Deckcheck.

That sucked.

[Waikiki]

Hi, i have launched the Beta version of a new web deck database, i hope people begin to send his decks.

TC Decks (http://www.thecouncil.es/tcdecks/)

Good Job, its a nice start !

[paulmaster]

Thanks man, almost 300 decks of legacy in 2 days, i'm happy.

[Suguru]

Hi, i have launched the Beta version of a new web deck database, i hope people begin to send his decks.

TC Decks (http://www.thecouncil.es/tcdecks/)

Great!!

Do you know you can still access the decks from Deckcheck using the google cache? I don't know how long it will be avaiable, but if you want decks for your database, this would be the best source.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:t-y0H7IzBoUJ:www.deckcheck.net/deck.php%3Fid%3D10708+deckcheck+stiffle+nought&cd=1&hl=es&ct=clnk&gl=es

[atropos]

Hi, i have launched the Beta version of a new web deck database, i hope people begin to send his decks.

TC Decks (http://www.thecouncil.es/tcdecks/)

This is awesome! Thanks, paulmaster!

[Purgatory]

Hi, i have launched the Beta version of a new web deck database, i hope people begin to send his decks.

TC Decks (http://www.thecouncil.es/tcdecks/)

Good job! I already started to spread the link around :)

Let's hope that people start sending in decks then...

[Taurelin]

There is another database online: http://www.deckcheck.org/

Wouldn't it be better if all people worked together to create one new site? This seems like unnecessary competition.

[Jonathan Alexander]

This one looks pretty good and it seems like it has most of the decks from Dechcheck. But you're right about the competition thing. Let's just focus on this one.

[Meekrab]

There is another database online: http://www.deckcheck.org/

Wouldn't it be better if all people worked together to create one new site? This seems like unnecessary competition.
Yeah, and then the one webmaster can take the site offline whenever he/she/it feels offended by wotc/the dci/jesus/obama/the jews/insert reason here/.

Good plan. I prefer a distributed model.

[Valdez]

Yeah, and then the one webmaster can take the site offline whenever he/she/it feels offended by wotc/the dci/jesus/obama/the jews/insert reason here/.

Good plan. I prefer a distributed model.
Yeah, and then the one cancreate a new one.

[humppa]

Honestly - I would send decklists only on site with open API, so anybody could make a backup of database any time - I don't want to lose all work again... So, who will be faster with this API? He will be the winner! :-)

[Gocho]

I agree. Open API, or almost a weekly XML backup looks the best option for the future.

[paulmaster]

Man, be sure that if one day i decide to close TC Decks and no one wants to continue my work i will put a database download for everybody, I love this game and keep the information for my own don't benefit anybody.

Anyway, i'll think the option of a weekly or monthly xml download.

P: Updated with new logo and search engine.

TC Decks (http://www.thecouncil.es/tcdecks/)

[Der Schrecken]

There is another database online: http://www.deckcheck.org/

Wouldn't it be better if all people worked together to create one new site? This seems like unnecessary competition.

Hi,
Working together is great, but not at one site. :)

I’m one of the developer of www.deckcheck.org (http://www.deckcheck.org) and I know my English is crap. We are two developers and a lot more which insert new and old decks. We are using the biggest part of the old deckcheck (30.000 of 38.000 decks) and especially in legacy just a few decks are missing. Since the beginning of the project we insert over 500 decks manually and over 2000 with scripts. We know the site is not really perfect, but we do a lot to improve the site. If you have criticism or suggestions for improvement, tell us please! Or if you have new or old decklists which are not insert, send us please! :)
Only your feedback allows us to improve the site. Please help us!
Contact:
ICQ: 464592802
Email: contact@deckcheck.org
Or post in the thread :)

[Valdez]

still more to come: http://deckbase.net/

[emidln]

I've been working on this since the announcement. It's almost feature-complete with things like RSS feeds by format, archetype, tag and deck export available. What's more, I was able to access the deckcheck database for a dump of about 37k decks to start out with (after I parsed the files and normalized the data).

www.deckdb.com

The interface isn't fancy (the Eternal Central crew is working with me to change that), but it is functional and pretty fast. It's built on proven technologies that are openly available and I'm making my source code public along with abilities to easilly access all of the decks (I don't rate limit, so just download every deck in MTGO or Apprentice format and have at it). For moderators, we have a nice admin interface for easily viewing unapproved events and then categorizing by archetype and publishing them.

When I start getting more deck submissions, I'll begin dumping the database into either a sqlite copy or a json dump.

One last thing. There will never be user logins. I'm not looking for information about the viewer, just to provide a deck organizational site. If you want a community, we have the wizards forums, mtgsalvation, this site, TMD, CQ, tcgplayer, etc. I just want to make decks easily available.

[heronimus]

I submitted decks last sunday to deckcheck.org. But they aren't uploaded...

[Rigero]

I submitted decks last sunday to deckcheck.org. But they aren't uploaded...

If you can tell me what name the tournamend has, i can look it up what happens here. Normaly it should be up. Maybe it was only about 10 players? Cause most tournaments with only around 10 players is not very informational to upload a top8 of such a tournament.

[Der Schrecken]

I submitted decks last sunday to deckcheck.org. But they aren't uploaded...

Hi,
this sounds like a bug, because all submitted decks are unlocked. Can you tell me, which browser you are using and was there maybe any "bug message" when you send it?
Thx for helping www.deckcheck.org!

[Der Schrecken]

We have updated the page with a new "advanced search" and a lot of new decks. Also we fixed some bugs. In the next days there will be a lot of updates with new features and new decks. You will love it! Visit us at www.deckcheck.org (http://www.deckcheck.org)! :)

[paulmaster]

NEWS on TC Decks (http://www.thecouncil.es/tcdecks/):

- Pagination is added when you look for tournaments.
- Added tier decks of the month based in number of tops.
- Some archetypes has been joined (especially in vintage)
- Decks uploaded the current day marked as 'NEW'

I'm waiting for your answers/suggestions.

[flrn]

I'm waiting for your answers/suggestions.

http://www.thecouncil.es/tcdecks/tipo.php?archetype=Doomsday%20Emrakul&format=Legacy

I think this category should be split between Doomsday Fetchland Tendrils and the archetype that tries to "cheat" Emrakul into play. Doomsday Fetchland Tendrils clearly is a storm combo deck, which has Emrakul as a Plan B. The other deck just tries to get Emrakul into play via Show and Tell or Shelldock Isle and plays itself in a completly different way.

[paulmaster]

The biggest update from TC Decks (http://www.thecouncil.es/tcdecks/), added the old Deckcheck database with more than 38k new old decks, at the moment you can't access to the old extended/standard formats, but i will be fixed soon.
It's possible that at least 100 or 200 tournaments from the old database don't have the correct date or player number, if you know this, please make me know.
Thanks.

@flrn: I'll split as soon as i can, thanks man.

[ddalgaard]

Would like to point people towards http://www.mtgpulse.com as another alternative to deckcheck.net. It's a wiki-based database where everybody with a facebook account can add and edit events. Check it out, and let me know what you think.

[Der Schrecken]

Hi guys,
we was the last days a bit busy, but we both passed our exames, so dont be angry with us! :P We have a lot of time in the next weeks to improve the website.
We have published the "meta overview (http://deckcheck.org/?s=meta)" at our website now (just current meta of Legacy (http://deckcheck.org/?x=8QRfAKWVerunF3HwmXgCAKunerRfLWVrtun2MDB) and Standard (http://deckcheck.org/?x=8QRfAKWVerunF3HwmXgCAKunerRfSerunxOlGungClG)). I hope u will like it and give us feedback to improve it. I guess the potential is really, really big.
We have also updated a lot of new decks and in the next days all parts of the site will be up to date. We fixed a lot of bugs and some design mistakes.
Feedback would be nice! :)

And thank you all for the visits and using us at www.deckcheck.org! :)

Fab

Edit: Sry, there are too many visitors at the moment. We will fix the problem with the server soon. Sry for this situation!

[paulmaster]

New design, new navigation bar, added old standard and extended decks and added block format.
Waiting for your suggestions.

TC Decks (http://www.thecouncil.es/tcdecks/index.php)

[paulmaster]

More functionalities after the weekend, added visual view of the deck, added 'i like' facebook button and added the option of sending decks through email or URL.

See it in TC Decks (http://www.thecouncil.es/tcdecks/index.php)

[atropos]

More functionalities after the weekend, added visual view of the deck, added 'i like' facebook button and added the option of sending decks through email or URL.

See it in TC Decks (http://www.thecouncil.es/tcdecks/index.php)

The visual view is beautiful. Thanks so much!

[paulmaster]

I'm adding an internationalization, i'm trying to translate TC Decks to other languages (cards is imposible by now), i have people working to translate it to Spanish, German, Portuguese and Catalan, do you know another language like french or italian? Do you want to help this project?
If you do, contact me here or in

TC Decks (http://www.thecouncil.es/tcdecks/contact.php)

[paulmaster]

More functionalities in TC Decks (http://thecouncil.es/tcdecks/index.php).
Now the cards in TC Decks are sorted by its type, showing creatures, instants, sorceries, enchantments, planeswalkers, artifacts and lands in this order.
Soon i'll add that functionality to the visual vier of the deck.
I hope you like, i wait your suggestions.


See it in TC Decks (http://thecouncil.es/tcdecks/index.php)

[Der Schrecken]

It makes me sad when I see this rumors about us, even though Magic is only a game ...

We have never attacked TC decks at some point in some form or other harmful acts performed. Marco Pablo's has responded with this action a little childish to our email traffic. Thereafter, he announced that we have hacked the website. As evidence, he delivered once nothing. A little later, he released images that should prove to our hack attack. If you export the EXIF-Files of the images, you can see the images were saved with Photoshop. That is no clear evidence to the contrary, but it’s strange. How are we to prove something we have not done?
In summary: Pablo Marcos, the owner of TC decks, wanted to start a mud fight, but there was no reason for us to fight this stupid childish war and that is the reason why we had not answered until yet. The consequences are too big to be silent any longer.
We even talked to our lawyers and legal action will be taken. The reason for this is not deckcheck, but that Marco has really hurt with his campaign a person. This is just a slander and it can have serious consequences for Andreas in real life! We just wanted doing something good for the community and no stupid mud fight.

We will continue to develop deckcheck.org (http://www.deckcheck.org). Such childish action can’t stop us to develop this great website and with the help of the community it will be better and better. :)

[paulmaster]

Edit cause it's inappropiate comment.

[emidln]

From looking at the blog posts it seems extremely unlikely that someone put any effort at all into taking down TC Decks. I'm not knocking your admin skills, but very little cash would be needed to buy time on a botnet to put you into serious debt for bandwidth overage and/or deny service completely and totally. It doesn't even appear that you're using basic caching software, not that even a good caching solution and loads of ram with extremely aggressive and lightweight server solutions will stand up adequately to a random idiot, some downloaded scripts abusing scapy, basic logic to not trip your provider's likely poor statistics-based cutoff switch (which would limit your monetary liability), and 50 euro of time on a botnet.

/fwiw this is highly amusing, so if you keep it up for the community's entertainment, we'll appreciate it. Just try not to take your comedy too seriously.

[paulmaster]

I'm sorry for my childish behaviour, this is not the place for talking about this, what happened don't concern to anybody, in future i only comment the improvements of my web.
I apologize for my behaviour to all magic community.

[i92segoa]

We also developed a netdecking site, syou can find it at: www.mtgdecks.net, hope someone finds it useful.

[keys]

Wow. Deckcheck.net dies and now we have more netdecking websites than we could ever need. Go figure.

[PanderAlexander]

With the old deckcheck.net potentially worth near $26,000:
http://www.webworth.info/site.php?url=deckcheck.net

There'll definitly be people gladly trying to take that spot. But looks like most of the ones that have cropped up want to help the community.

[Der Schrecken]

Hi,
we have added a new feature on www.deckcheck.org - the event calendar (http://deckcheck.org/index.php?s=kalender). It offers an overview of upcoming events and you can search for specific events. I hope that many Tournament Organizers will join us and add their events there to get this part of deckcheck to a similar size as the database of decks. Still, the calendar is a bit empty, but I think this can change quickly with the help of the community! :)
We will improve it step by step and we hope you can help us with your feedback!
We have also added many top lists and correct many old deck lists!
Fab