View Full Version : What is your collection worth?
dahcmai
10-17-2010, 01:05 AM
I am trying to find a site that you can use a checklist or something to see how much a collection is worth. Any ideas on that? I'm sure one probably exists.
sdematt
10-17-2010, 02:35 AM
I don't know of an actual site that you could put in your entire list and it'd spit out a number, but I'm sure if you posted it on MOTL people could give you a rough estimate.
That probably doesn't help at all, so sorry :(. You could post it here and we could appraise for you :cool:
-Matt
Pulp_Fiction
10-17-2010, 02:48 AM
The website www.cardkingdom.com has buying lists and you can contact them and they will give u a rough idea as to how much they will buy ur collection for.
mchainmail
10-17-2010, 03:17 AM
apathyhouse.com 40 cards at a time?
If you want, you could make a magic.TCGplayer.com account and input every card you own into a "deck" and see what number it spits out for the average.
wmagzoo7
10-17-2010, 03:44 AM
One suggestion that I have for figuring out a rough value for your collection which I did was to use a sales thread on MOTL. I used Slinga's as my collection is mostly Eternal stuff which he mainly sells, also it gave me a realistic value rather than the buylist of a site which cuts themselves a 20% profit at least.
Zlatzman
10-17-2010, 04:39 AM
You can download Magic Workstation and create an inventory file with the cards you want to include. Then go to file -> Import -> Import Prices and download pricing from magictraders or another site of your choice. The next step is to go to Tools -> Price Bases Management and set the recently imported price base active. Finally open your inventory file, go to statistics and the total value of the inventory will be displayed.
edit:
- Just remember that commons are often overpriced on magictraders.
- You can download more prices from "http://magictraders.com/pricelists/" and create multiple price-bases, these will show up separately in the statistics window.
- Non-standard cards might not be available, neither is support for multiple languages. You'll need to create separate inventory-files for those if you want to include them.
dahcmai
10-17-2010, 10:50 PM
Well, problem is it's a huge collection and it's bordering on being a collection of everything. No idea how many it is, but I filled three of those 4 row boxes with rares alone and I keep no more than 4 of anything unless it's a money rare. Commons and uncommons fill a few more boxes, about 2 colors per box. I toss crap cards so it's all decent stuff.
So I need something I can just check off a list or something. Typing it all out would be a heck of an undertaking.
I might try that on workstation though, that might work.
You're not going to be able to estimate anything without recording what's actually in your collection.
You can do data entry in MWS really fast with the keyboard. It's what I use to input decklists.
Windux
10-18-2010, 12:01 AM
http://cardcostcalculator.wente.dk/ This is a Wantlist-Page for magickartenmarkt.de.
So you will get the best price on mkm for each card you insert (+shipping cost extra) ;)
DalkonCledwin
10-18-2010, 12:05 AM
http://cardcostcalculator.wente.dk/ This is a Wantlist-Page for magickartenmarkt.de.
So you will get the best price on mkm for each card you insert (+shipping cost extra) ;)
thats a german site... the values of cards in Germany are bound to be different from the values of cards in other parts of the world. Just thought I would point that out.
dahcmai
10-18-2010, 06:12 PM
I guess I could always just have the largest Ebay auction ever. lol Though I think I'd get raped by the IRS for it later. I think I'll just end up trading off for things that sell online well and then auctioning off stuff as I go to get an idea of what things will go for.
Star|Scream
10-25-2010, 03:18 PM
Magic workstation makes inputting fairly easy, so does apprentice.
What I would do (and have done) is use either to type in the name, only a few keystrokes are necessary per card, and then just hit enter for each quantity of that card. so brainstorm would be
brai enter, enter, enter
then export from one of those programs into an excel spreadsheet or comma separated file CSV
then create a vlookup table in excel that references MOTL price guide.
done.
JeroenC
10-25-2010, 03:31 PM
Deckbox.org will do that for you if you find a way to get your collection typed out.
android
10-25-2010, 04:35 PM
Someone needs to design an inventory program that just lists cards within a set so you can tab through a value field and enter a quantity. Then when you've tabbed all the way through, you click save and it generates that particular table with tags for the set or edition. You could even go one step further and have entry fields for condition. None of this stuff would be that hard to develop, it would just take a little effort. The data already exists, it's just that the interface is not there. If this were set up and it wasn't all buggy or slow, you could go from Alpha all the way to Scars in an afternoon. Of course you would have to have your collection well organized and a buddy would have to be feeding you info.
Meekrab
10-25-2010, 06:49 PM
Can't believe no one has said it yet:
bout tree fiddy.
dahcmai
10-25-2010, 07:32 PM
Someone needs to design an inventory program that just lists cards within a set so you can tab through a value field and enter a quantity. Then when you've tabbed all the way through, you click save and it generates that particular table with tags for the set or edition. You could even go one step further and have entry fields for condition. None of this stuff would be that hard to develop, it would just take a little effort. The data already exists, it's just that the interface is not there. If this were set up and it wasn't all buggy or slow, you could go from Alpha all the way to Scars in an afternoon. Of course you would have to have your collection well organized and a buddy would have to be feeding you info.
I decided just to design that into my website. Just one more thing to enter in I guess. At least someone else will find it useful afterwards.
I use Magic Album for my trade stock, and a website my brother wrote for me for the collection. Both work fine.
dontbiteitholmes
10-27-2010, 03:18 PM
I decided just to design that into my website. Just one more thing to enter in I guess. At least someone else will find it useful afterwards.
Well you didn't say you had that kind of ability. If you know how to program and are so inclined I would say.
1: Enter collection in MWS as deck, copy to clipboard, paste into text file.
2: Write code to format that text file into a collection of objects containing- maybe an int for the number of cards, and a couple strings for the card name and set. Then maybe save that data to a file.
3: Find a website with prices you agree with and write a code to either scrape the entire site and create a database of prices to check your cards with, or check prices one by one of your cards and output the results to a file.
I think MWS is the easiest option I'm aware of for entering cards since it has a basic auto-complete built in and you can shift + click add to add a playset. The only hard part of building the program I just mentioned would be maybe interacting with the website if you've never done something like that before. All the rest of the code is beyond easy to implement.
dahcmai
10-27-2010, 03:40 PM
Who made MWS anyway? I might ask them if I can borrow the interface and just make something people who use that program could automatically use intuitively for stuff like this. I have never used it, but now that I think about it, it's a damned good idea if the owner goes for it.
dontbiteitholmes
10-27-2010, 04:15 PM
Who made MWS anyway? I might ask them if I can borrow the interface and just make something people who use that program could automatically use intuitively for stuff like this. I have never used it, but now that I think about it, it's a damned good idea if the owner goes for it.
Who knows, I doubt they would let you borrow their code though since they probably still get donations from people registering it and they would probably assume you just wanted the code to make your own MWS like program which would end their gravy train since MWS is fraught with bugs. Also they haven't updated it in many many years which leads me to believe they aren't to likely to answer emails asking for part of their program.
Really though it would be incredibly simple to make a program to do what you wanted anyways.
Java would probably be the way to go and it already has all kinds of useful GUI based objects that would handle the majority of the window features. For example if you entered the card name into a JFrame TextField it would be very easy to write a method that would scroll in the card list to the closest match alphabetically and/or autocomplete. If your aim is just to make a useful card collection manager then I can't think of any part of the program off the top of my head that wouldn't be doable with even just an associates degree level knowledge of programming.
I've thought about writing a replacement for MWS in my spare time, but that barely exists anymore and if you want to make any money off it you have to be really careful with infringing on anyones copyright. Not to mention at that point I might as well just spend the time to design something completely new and not have to worry about getting a nasty letter from some game company's legal department.
It would probably just be easier to write your own code from scratch anyways then try to navigate the MWS source. With all the easily avoidable fatal errors in the program (attempting to draw an arrow to an object that doesn't exist causes a crash = LOL) I can't imagine it's the most well written code. I mean it's pretty obvious where the bug is that causes the arrow crash and it could most likely be fixed by a simple error check but the fact they never fixed it leads me to believe their source was poorly written and too hard to maintain.
Zlatzman
10-27-2010, 05:04 PM
MWS-developers are no longer active, so obtaining code or getting them to implement new code into MWS is close to impossible.
(edit: I believe the main developer is CrazzyWizzard on this forum: http://www.magi-soft.com/forum/, Detonator also has some role though I'm not sure which.)
Best bet would be to talk to some of the guys developing replacement software such as Cockatrice, Online PlayTable, Magic Album or any of the others. To be honest I'm not really sure which projects are doing what, and when they expect to have good results.
http://www.slightlymagic.net/forum/
DerLhurgoyf
11-23-2010, 04:51 AM
thats a german site... the values of cards in Germany are bound to be different from the values of cards in other parts of the world. Just thought I would point that out.
Nice to see that rumours of my site (http://magiccardwantlist.wente.dk/) are already spreading :laugh:
I just wanted to point out that the MagicKartenMarkt.de is also known as MagicCardMarket.eu and lists cards from users all over Europe. It started as a German thing, but it is no longer bound to it.
Of course, if you're not living in Europe this doesn't help you ;)
Pippin
11-23-2010, 05:57 AM
Nice to see that rumours of my site (http://cardcostcalculator.wente.dk/) are already spreading :laugh:
I just wanted to point out that the MagicKartenMarkt.de is also known as MagicCardMarket.eu and lists cards from users all over Europe. It started as a German thing, but it is no longer bound to it.
Of course, if you're not living in Europe this doesn't help you ;)
Well I do live in Europe, but the site still can't help me in buying cards :tongue:
Btw, any plans of making MagicCardMarket.eu a bit more international? At least getting those poor Balkan countries onboard?
sdematt
11-23-2010, 10:34 AM
I'm pretty sure you have to be EU for it to all work out.
But, I'm pretty sure the EU has too much chaff already, with all those countries without economies, so I don't think they'll take on many more :(
-Matt
DerLhurgoyf
11-24-2010, 03:40 AM
Well I do live in Europe, but the site still can't help me in buying cards :tongue:
Btw, any plans of making MagicCardMarket.eu a bit more international? At least getting those poor Balkan countries onboard?
Well, some Balkan countries are already present, like Greece, Serbia, Slovenia and Bulgaria. They also included a guy from Singapore so he can make sales to Europe. I guess its mostly about figuring out the shipping costs from and to a country before it is included.
Switzerland is also part of the MCM, but not in the EU ;)
But then, I don't run that site so I can't tell what it takes for a country to be listed.
Offler
11-28-2010, 07:17 AM
Each blue card once...
Hmm. take all blue cards, Exclude multicolored ones, and those with nonblue or nongeneric costs...
1700+- cards currently, while i have 1200+- of them. Still have to count them.
Most valuable pieces still missing - Ancestrall Recall, Time walk. Whole collection currently worth max 255-500 dollars... Not more.
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