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Offler
11-07-2010, 04:46 PM
Opponent has Ambush commander on battlefield, i had Oblivion stone...

The attempt to use the stone ended, when we realized that we didnt know if it will or will not destroy all lands of my opponent.

Julian23
11-07-2010, 05:04 PM
Oblivion Stone says "non-lands". Ambush Commander says "are still lands". You go figure :-).

Offler
11-07-2010, 05:21 PM
Thats exactly the point where we ended up the game, because we were not sure :D

Commonly there are some things in play which as i think do not follow the rules exactly as it is normal.

Some example:
A player has manland in play. Other player will cast Doom blade on it. Usually player who owns the manland (currently being a creature which is still land) will throw the land to the grave. Only one skilled legacy player told me that Doom Blade will be countered.

At this point i became confused.

Since such play is common here there is no point to ask on local forum here.

Therefore i can only guess that it will not affect any permanents which are currently lands, even if they have another permanent type.

luma
11-07-2010, 06:03 PM
Nonland permanent means "a permanent that is not a land". Lands animated by Ambush Commander are still lands, therefore they aren't "nonland permanents".

Doom Blade will work on an animated manland, because the land is also a creature and that's all Doom Blade cares about. If the manland weren't a legal target, you couldn't even cast Doom Blade on it. The "Doom Blade gets countered" makes no sense.

Julian23
11-07-2010, 06:03 PM
Doom Blade will surely destroy an animated manland unless it is black, indestructible or has e.g. shroud.

To clear things up: Oblivion Stone won't destroy animated manlands.

Offler
11-07-2010, 06:10 PM
Now its clear. It was not the doom blade, but Maelstrom pulse. Other commonly played spells here are planar cleansing and [cards]child of alara[cards].

According to your advice none of those (oblivion stone including) will affect manlands.

Thanx.

Julian23
11-07-2010, 06:58 PM
Unless the manland says something about "...is no longer a land". However, I can't think of one that does so.