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Evincarcrovax
01-02-2011, 02:53 PM
I am working on a U/B control stax-like deck and would like some suggestions. The goal is to try and lock up the combat phase/prevent your opponent from having too many creatures in play and winning with the manlands or nether spirit. Brainstorm and Diabolic Vision draw cards and counterspells and discard takes care of any other problems. Thoughts?

4 Sunken Ruins
3 Mishra's Factory
2 Drowned Catacomb
8 Island
7 Swamp

4 Smother
2 Fact or Fiction
2 Undermine
4 Counterspell
3 Mana Leak
2 Brainstorm
3 Pendrell Mists
2 Mana Web
3 Propaganda

1 Nether Spirit

3 Innocent Blood
4 Duress
4 Diabolic Vision

SB:
2 Chill
2 Perish
4 Engineered Plague
1 Persecute
3 Dystopia
1 Virtue's Ruin
2 Inquisition of Kozilek

Edit: This was the previous list

4 Sunken Ruins
3 Mishra's Factory
2 Drowned Catacomb
8 Island
7 Swamp

4 Smother
2 Fact or Fiction
2 Undermine
4 Counterspell
3 Mana Leak
2 Breathstealer's Crypt
3 Pendrell Mists
2 Vile Consumption
3 Propaganda

1 Nether Spirit

3 Innocent Blood
4 Duress
4 Diabolic Vision

SB:
2 Chill
2 Perish
4 Engineered Plague
1 Persecute
3 Dystopia
1 Virtue's Ruin
2 Inquisition of Kozilek

kiblast
01-02-2011, 03:27 PM
Amazing. And after twenty six minutes of agony, how do you plan to win the game? / edit: aside from 4 2/2 with no evasion and no protection.

Also, Mana Web is the most useless card ever. Opponent can float mana, so basically you force him to cast everything in one phase,hey this is true control.

Don't know, throw in 3 Jace if you want to randomly win games. At least you have a cause for resolving your Fact or Finctions. A Morphling or a Sphinx of Jwar Isle could be good as they win games cheaply then Jace.

I don't even want to ask why on earth you should be playing 2 Brainstorm without any fetch , and Diabolic Vision over Impulse.
Oh,your manabase is horrible. Please play Underground Seas, or at least shocklands. And fetches.

Evincarcrovax
01-02-2011, 03:40 PM
Mana Web is a new card that I added so you might be right. I used to have 2 Vile Consumption and 2 BreathStealer's Crypt instead of the Manaweb and Brainstorms. With that build Their life would drop slowly and eventually the factories would finish them off. I might go back to that. I'll try and find some shock lands if I can.

Jak
01-02-2011, 03:42 PM
Doesn't hurt to be nicer kiblast. The list is pretty obvious constrained by a budget.

Anyway, something to work towards is basically a UBG Landstill list without green.

4 Polluted Delta
2 Misty Rainforest
4 Underground Sea
4 Mishra's Factory
4 Wasteland
4 Island
1 Swamp

2 Engineered Explosives
3 Innocent Blood
2 Ghastly Demise
3 Diabolic Edict
3 Damnation

4 Force of Will
4 Counterspell
3 Spell Pierce

4 Brainstorm
4 Standstill
2 Crucible

4 Jace
1 Haunting Echoes

2 cards over but whatever. The Haunting Echoes is probably cute, but I love that card.

kiblast
01-02-2011, 03:53 PM
Doesn't hurt to be nicer kiblast. The list is pretty obvious constrained by a budget.



One thing is going budget (a thing that i respect and love, as improves deckbuilding skills) and another is going in no clear direction without giving a shape and strategy to your deck. Also for Budget there is a special sub-forum. New and Developmental =/= Budget.