[Deck] URx Multicasting

[Tainted]

The spark that make my brain start to move was a Thread on a wizard deck, the deck was trying to adapt a meta-deck of vintage for legacy, it wasn't really good but it make me go and search for some decent wizards around the internet, and i found Azorius Guildmage, Dimir Guildmage , Izzet Guildmage.
If you're wondering how can this card be any good, I'll answer you Training ground, with this little enchantment in game you can do many really good things.
Then I start to make a list with this core:


4 Izzet Guildmage
2 Vendilion Clique
2 Wee Dragonauts
2 Gelectrode

4 Training Ground
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Preordain
3-4 Stifle
4 Spell Pierce
2 Basilisk Collar


// Izzret Guildmage is our hero that let us multicasting, Wee Dragonaut sometimes become really huge when you start to multicast things with izzret guildmage, gelectrode will reset the enemy board like crazy when you equip it with the collar and Vendilion Clique is just too good to cut it out.
Training Ground let us spam things with izzret guildmage, lightning bolt...well do I need to explain why put this in a deck that want to multiply spell? I preferred Preordain at brainstorm because when you multicast, brainstorm don't let you go through the deck, while Preordain let me put useless card on the bottom of the deck digging into it in search of more usefull card, Stifle is there because after some test I've decided to use the tactic of mana denial of threshold deck(wasteland+stifle), and in the end I choose spell pierce as counter, but if someone have any better advice I'd like to hear it; I cut FoW for the only reason that it's a 5cc and i cannot copy it, maybe I'm wrong but...I'll test some more.

Now there's the question about the splash, I tried to add white for Azorius Guildmage and Swords to Plowshares to have a little more control of the board and i have to say that Azorius Guildmage is really great, it will tap dangerous creature or just tap the defender, and he can even tap opponent creature and attack himself cause it don't need to be tapped to activate his skill, the blu one is an infinite stifle then i really love it, sword take care of the Big Bad Guy (Izzet Guildmage + Swords to Plowshares for multiple removal, yes please).
I've test even with black instead of white for Dimir Guildmage, Dark Confidant, Duress, Extirpate and I have to say that often a multiple extirpate after a multiple duress is something great, but against aggro deck it really need some more removal and i can't find the place for them, and the Dimir Guildmage, for how wonderful is it's effect it will suffer much more from the absence or the destruction of training ground, and nowadays there are a lots of enchant removal in this format, then i really prefer white over black for more board control.
Then my actual list is something like


4 Izzet Guildmage
4 Azorius Guildmage
2 Vendilion Clique
2 Wee Dragonauts
2 Gelectrode

4 Training Ground
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Swords to Plowshares
4 Preordain
3 Stifle
4 Spell Pierce
2 Basilisk Collar

4 Scalding Tarn
3 Flooded Strand
4 Volcanic Island
4 Tundra
1 Island
1 Karakas
4 Wasteland


The sideboard is all to think, but for now I'm focusing on the main, by the way it will include some disenchant effect + Tormoid + null rod, we can even tutor them in the white version, if someone like it there's meddling mage waiting for her chance.
This is my list for now, feel free to tell me your opinions.

[Uly Van Hammer]

// Izzret Guildmage is our hero that let us multicasting, Wee Dragonaut sometimes become really huge when you start to multicast things with izzret guildmage, gelectrode will reset the enemy board like crazy when you equip it with the collar and Vendilion Clique is just too good to cut it out.
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When you copy a spell, it's not the same as playing/casting it. Guildmage wont trigger gelectrode or dragonauts.

[Team-Hero]

Uly Van Hammer is right. I use Manamorphose with Traning Grounds and Izzet Guildmage to draw my whole deck and produce a high amount of mana. With that, I cast Quicken. Quicken lets you cast your sorcery spells if your actually going off at the end of the opponent's turn with Manamorphose. Rite of Flame after Quicken, then you can just go infinite on Chain Lightnings. It's a little confusing but it can be a turn 3 kill combo. The reason why I gave up on the deck was because the combo is too fragile and hard to piece together. It also required a lot of slots in the mainboard and was too dependant on Izzet Guildmage.

To go off I needed exactly:
T1: Island, Training Grounds
T2: Mountain, Izzet Guildmage
T3: Island, Manamorphose, copy the Manamorphose on the stack with a blue mana, draw until you find Rite of Flame, (Quicken if this is being done with an opponent's spell on the stack), and Chain Lightning.

Hope this helps.

[hjalte]

To go off I needed exactly:
T1: Island, Training Grounds
T2: Mountain, Izzet Guildmage
T3: Island, Manamorphose, copy the Manamorphose on the stack with a blue mana, draw until you find Rite of Flame, (Quicken if this is being done with an opponent's spell on the stack), and Chain Lightning.

Hope this helps.
This just seems stupid.
Why don't you just copy Manamorphose, and add UU to your mana pool, and continuing doing this until you hit a lightning bolt, then add UR to you manapool. Then cast Lightning bolt with R and copy it with the rest of the blue mana in the manapool?

The problem is, that this is a three card combo, and one of the parts is a creature.

[Team-Hero]

This just seems stupid.
Why don't you just copy Manamorphose, and add UU to your mana pool, and continuing doing this until you hit a lightning bolt, then add UR to you manapool. Then cast Lightning bolt with R and copy it with the rest of the blue mana in the manapool?

The problem is, that this is a three card combo, and one of the parts is a creature.

I previously stated that I gave up on the deck. I agree with you that the combo is too hard to pull off. I forgot to give the details why I would copy Chain Lightning over Lighting Bolt. I agree that Lightning Bolt would be easier to copy since it's an instant vs a sorcery. What you stated, I would do most of the time. It's my fault for forgeting to clarify the following: I also ran Burning Wishes main to tutor for Rite of Flame and Chain Lighting. The Izzet Guildmage could go off by casting a Burning Wish, copy Burning Wish, copy resolves, original copy resolves, cast Rite of Flame, copy Rite of Flame infinite, cast Chain Lightning, copy Chain Lightning infinite. I'm sorry that I left that out originally. I know that the combo isn't very convinent or clean, but it's not suppose to be. It's NOT a solid combo. I would NOT recommend the deck.

[Tainted]

Well, when I started testing this deck, I didn't expect it to be a combo deck, but some kind of a funny aggro-control deck with tempo tech, that can control the board with bolt+StP in multicast + the white skill of the Azorius gm to tap dangerous creature, i like very much the combo between izzret gm and Manamorphose but as you said is not a solild combo, but if it happens is welcome, i think I'll replace Gelectrode with grim lavamancer and the dragonauts + 1 preordain with 3 Manamorphose.
But i think the deck lack of 2 things, an alternative closure to lightning bolt, and a way to protect the guildmages when i don't have counter in my hand.
As a protection I'm thinking about insert a couple of Kira, Great Glass-Spinner .

Thanks to everyone for the advice, I will continue to test, or I'll just convert this to a simple Next Level Threshold URG.