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Rock Lee
04-10-2011, 03:36 AM
I've been uncharacteristically quiet the last few weeks and that's mostly because I've supposedly become to champion of missing top 8 due to breakers involving pair downs the last 3 events I have played at, and I don't like making a report unless I have something outside of a playset of Polluted deltas to show for my efforts. This event does not disappoint, and while its attendance is small, it is a herald of times to come.

The last GPT that I got 9th at with cut to top 8 was 44 people strong. It was the only one in the area and the first of the season, so when 14 show up to this one with two additional GPT's within 100 miles I'm a little disappointed, but I'll take the greater chances of the coveted three round bye in Providence.

My latest version of Turbo-Drazi is the strongest to date and its showing throughout the day reflect that.

// Lands
4 [TSP] Vesuva
4 [Unl] Tropical Island
1 [WWK] Eye of Ugin
4 [SOM] Glimmerpost
3 [ON] Flooded Strand
1 [ON] Polluted Delta
1 [LG] The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
1 [WWK] Bojuka Bog
4 [FNM] Cloudpost
1 [Beta] Island (3)

// Creatures
1 [ROE] Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
1 [ROE] Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
4 [FD] Trinket Mage
2 [M11] Primeval Titan

// Spells
3 [ROE] All Is Dust
4 [ZEN] Expedition Map
3 [AQ] Candelabra of Tawnos
3 [GP] Repeal
4 [AL] Force of Will
3 [CHK] Sensei's Divining Top
3 [UL] Crop Rotation
1 [SOK] Pithing Needle
4 [5E] Brainstorm

// Sideboard
SB: 1 [M11] Primeval Titan
SB: 1 [IA] Glacial Chasm
SB: 1 [UL] Crop Rotation
SB: 1 [SOK] Pithing Needle
SB: 4 [ZEN] Mindbreak Trap
SB: 1 [MR] Chalice of the Void
SB: 3 [R] Hurkyl's Recall
SB: 2 [MI] Mind Harness
SB: 1 [DK] Maze of Ith

Briefly about the recent changes. Brainstorm became extremely logical with the cutting of Thirst for Knowledge and opting for more shuffle effects with Trinket Mage. Also having 2 Candelabra of Tawnos left me often fishing for them instead of being comfortable with them and 3 felt much more relaxed. The other card choices are all quite logical and are intuitive leaps against particular matchups.

Onto the event!

Round 1

Taylor playing Show And Tell - Doomsday /w Daze/Pierce/Force

Game 1 he gets a turn 2 Doomsday. I see his library via Doomsday and see dazes, spell pierces, and forces along with petals and he wins with shelldock isle into cloud of faeries with counter backup. Strong. If this event continues this way I'm thinking that O-2 -> Chili's is my best avenue of play

Mindbreak traps & Primeval Titan in

Game 2 He keeps a slower start with 2 land drop-go's. I get a trinket mage in play with a candelabra on 2 Cloudposts. He Show and Tells, him in Emrakul, me in Trinket mage getting Candelabra. I crop rotate on my turn for eye of Ugin, laying a 3rd Cloudpost from hand and tutor and cast Emrakul, legend killing his, shuffling mine back. I beat for 4, take my Emrakul turn, then do it again on my turn beating for 23 over 2 turns and 1 Time Walk.

Game 3 I keep a hand of force-trinketmage-MindbreakTrap-Cloudpost-Cloudpost-Candelabra-ExpeditionMap perrrrdy good. He doesn't have an explosive hand and when he goes for show and tell on turn 3 I have Force on it (hadn't drawn any eldrazi's/titans yet) He pierces, I pay, he pierces again, I mindbreak trap the 2nd pierce and show and tell. The next turn trinket mage#2 gets me maps, into ugin, into Emrakul.

1-0

Round 2 is the round I declare myself a pretty girl who likes to put ribbons in my hair and kiss all the boys. My teammate Jeff Carpenter and I have a rule about deck checks. When we attend an event we swap our decklists and check each other before we submit them. If there are any errors, be they in the deck list's contents or them being written down incorrectly, the person checking the list is allowed to slap the incorrect deck submitter across the face open palmed hard and then the person being slapped had to stand up, after attracting attention to themselves from being slapped, and declare in a loud voice that they "are a pretty girl, you like to put ribbons in your hair, and you want to kiss all the boys." Each of us have only had to do this once to learn our lessons and it has been years since we have had a game loss due to deck misreg. Well Jeff didn't come to this event so I misreg a change I had been testing for awhile (3 repeal, 4 brainstorms) instead of what the deck had, which was 4 repeal, 3 brainstorms. We get randomly deckchecked and I get a giant boot in the face. Since I have the 4th brainstorm on me I am allowed to change it out, and we go into Game 2 unsided.

Game 2. kinda. Adam playing Welder Red
I mull to 5. prepare the large hand of slapping... Fortunately my 5hand is decent and he has a slow hand of welder, 2 mana. I chug chug along as much as possible considering a 5hand, but end up being short in answering his uncounterable Metalworker into slaver lock and monsters.

Boo. I really need my sideboard answers against this deck with so many dead main cards, but alas. I'll get my revenge in the top 4 I say. I follow this guy's progress through the day, and he ends up making top 4, which helps my breakers substantially, and for this I can sincerely thank him.

1-1

Round 3 Jacob playing UW Merfolk. I'm not sure what the white splash was for, I assume swords and stoneforge mystic, but I was happy to see Tundras mostly so that Back to Basics wouldn't be an issue.

Game 1 has him with some early mutavault beats and a control heavy hand. 2 dazes and 2 forces later, I heave out an Emrakul due to playing Cloudpost ->thing-get-countered, over and over.

Primeval Titan, All is Dust, Crop Rotation, Maze of Ith, Pithing Needle In

Game 2 He has the repeat of 2 Daze 2 Forces, but backs it up with 3 wastelands. 1-2 wasteland I can beat, 3 is just back breaking though unless I'm prepared for it, and I certainly wasn't.

Game 3 I side out my forces since I'm feeling especially sassy and want to keep all my Card Advantage in. He has a turn where he hits me for 16 with 4 lords in play, but I have 2 all is dust to wipe the board. After that glimmerposts pep me back up from 3, then 6, then 10, and my next land tutor gets me ugin into Emrakul.

2-1

Round 4 Justin, whom I know as an acquaintance from local Worcester events. He always plays combo something from my brief encounters with him, and today is nothing different. We both know what we're playing against going into this. He is favored, but I have an absurd amount of playtesting against Doomsday.

Game 1 is ended rather quickly with a turn 2 doomsday. I see from his deck that he went for shelldock isle -> emrakul, so I go Trinket Mage -> Pithing Needle. His 3rd card is Chain of Vapor and my 4 random draws were all lands. He has to doomsday again in order to not deck himself, and a crop rotation wins me the game at this point through bojuka bog, but Nadda though.

Mindbreak Trap, Chalice of the Void

Game 2 is a beating of sorts. I have an early needle on shelldock isle forcing him into tendrils'ing me out, and I have a turn 4 Kozilek under threat of multiple force of will's. He draws tutors while I'm drawing filter and card advantage. I mess around with keeping a force ontop of my library with a top, but then repeal a tapped top into 3 cards and 2 counters and chalice. The game ends then, but it technically ends with Kozilek the next turn.

Game 3 has minimal notes, but involved a turn 4 primeval titan gaining me 10 life from an already 25 and I had mindbreak trap and force in hand. Storm 13 is easy, storm 18 not so much. The next turn I went for Emrakul tutor & cast.

3-1

I make top 4. wee!


Semifinals Rafal playing Lands. He has chosen the daunting task of picking up lands the same day and piloting it, which is one of the hardest decks in Legacy to play at the moment. I give this guy credit for his enormous amount of guts. While he does make some mistakes in our games, I give incredible credit to people playing lands. The deck requires an equal amount of gusto and skill to pilot successfully, and Rafal sported the gusto in droves.

Game 1 I recall him keeping a hand of 2 wastes and 1 ghost quarter but no recursion. While this is normally frown town-me, I have crop rotates and pithing needle to deal, and his only out becomes crucible of worlds, which ends up getting bojuka bog'd into oblivion, with the omnipresent threat of 4 more Bojuka bogs in Vesuva from the rest of the game. He has an Ensnaring Bridge, but handy dandy Repeal makes any permanent, even a colorless one a nonthreat given enough time.

IN: Pithing Needle, Primeval Titan, Crop Rotation, Hurkyl's

Game 2 he has an early Null rod, but knowing I have Hurkyl's means this is a non-threat. I brainstorm into deliciousness, and the turn after he taps out his colored mana for loam just to recur, I draw Kozilek with exactly 10 mana in play. whomp.



FINALS Mike playing Burn. Maindeck Price of Progress and Sulfuric Vortex. yuck.

Mike is a crazy friendly guy who I sat across during the player meeting and we both followed each others' matches throughout the day. Neither of us are entirely enthused about this matchup, but we're glad we made it this far and have at it.

Game 1. Rift Bolt, Lava Spike, Chain Lightning, Keldon Marauder, Lightning bolt all put me at a precipitous 4 life, I have a force and need to see a blue card in the top 3 after having thinned out 5 cards via fetches and tutors to avoid a lethal Price of Progress. Nay though. I look at my 4th card and its a blue card. oh die roll.. mattering... *shakes fist*

In: Primeval Titan, Crop Rotate, Chalice of the Void, Mindbreak Trap

Game 2: This game leads like a play game normally does against burn for my deck. An early cloudpost land prior to the glimmerposts means I have mana to advance off of and my glimmerposts have been catapulted ahead on life gain. I plant a Primeval Titan. He thinks, and I can tell there's a price of progress on the wings, but he waits likely to respond to the glimmerpost triggers with a lethal price of progress. Unfortunately for him Primeval Titan tutors up Glacial Chasm and a glimmerpost. I have a full grip and plenty of filter at this point so he scoops it.

Game 3: This is the long road plan of Glimmerpost victory. I get a turn 3 Chalice @ 2, which completely wins me the game, but to avoid potential death through various cmc 1 & 6's I plant glimmerpost after glimmerpost. I end up with 7 glimmerposts in play by the end, and I gained 34 life without any grievous cheating of lands in via Primeval Titan. He keeps pressure with Sulfuric Vortexes, but I have repeals for them and I eventually go infinite with Emrakul, but not until I have a castable force for each card in his hand. People who give burn even an inch of leeway get burned.

Hurray 3 round bye at Providence GP and 100$ in store credit. End up walking away with a Jace2.0, Sword of GB, Elspeth, some other various schwagg, and a 3 round bye. Can't complain! :D

Props:
-Friendly Venue and players. Withstanding a few cantankerous judge pleas, this was a great spot with friendly and knowledgeable players
-80 year old Grandmother's packed food for being 3-for-3 in elevating my blood sugar to appropriate levels in the 3 events I've won 1st with this deck
-Hello Kitty Debit card for always being a conversation Starter
-Furries being omnipresent throughout the event. (Apparently there was a large convention there and it was basically a geek and social recluse feeding frenzy) Haters gonna hate, but every furry I have met has been a happy person. <3

Slops:
-Getting lost in Newington, CT both getting to and from the location. The venue isn't difficult to get to, I'm just a mindless rat in a maze.
-> REVERSAL PROP -> While lost, Thugged out Gangster Gas Station attendant and loiterers winding up being super friendly and giving me the most hilarious directions out of New Britain involving a "Rip a left turn at that T-Section yo and Bust it to the Freeway like you got a purpose."

Philipp2293
04-10-2011, 06:14 AM
Is it just the alcohol in my body or is this thread cut?

Anyway, I've seen you boarded in the Titan vs Doomsday, so it's meant for MUs where you need to be fast?

warallthetimne
04-10-2011, 08:40 AM
THIS DECK IS SO BAD!!! From what i hear more and more you havent won half the events you list yourself as winning. I dont know who is the bigger joke, the deck or the player

niknight
04-10-2011, 09:22 AM
Anyway, I've seen you boarded in the Titan vs Doomsday, so it's meant for MUs where you need to be fast?

To be fair, he played two Doomsday decks at that tournament (I was the second one). Titan comes in so he can fetch Glimmerposts. The turn before I was set to go off in game 3 (I desperately needed to find some library manimpulation) he dropped a Glimmerpost bringing him to 25, then cast a Titan for two more Glimmerposts which bumped him to 35. Storm 13 is very doable, but storm 18 requires a lot more work...


THIS DECK IS SO BAD!!! From what i hear more and more you havent won half the events you list yourself as winning. I dont know who is the bigger joke, the deck or the player

I can verify that he did make top 4 of this GPT, and he did so in fairly convincing fashion. His matchup in the semi's was a 42 land deck with a very inexperienced pilot (the land deck played against tribal aggro all day). Given the other two decks that made top 4, he should have easily run the table (I left right after t4 was paired).

emidln
04-10-2011, 09:39 AM
To be fair, he played two Doomsday decks at that tournament (I was the second one). Titan comes in so he can fetch Glimmerposts. The turn before I was set to go off in game 3 (I desperately needed to find some library manimpulation) he dropped a Glimmerpost bringing him to 25, then cast a Titan for two more Glimmerposts which bumped him to 35. Storm 13 is very doable, but storm 18 requires a lot more work...



I can verify that he did make top 4 of this GPT, and he did so in fairly convincing fashion. His matchup in the semi's was a 42 land deck with a very inexperienced pilot (the land deck played against tribal aggro all day). Given the other two decks that made top 4, he should have easily run the table (I left right after t4 was paired).

Sounds like someone needs to become at one with their Doomsday, Ill-Gotten Gains, Doomsday piles...

(j/k, mostly, storm 18 is rough)

niknight
04-10-2011, 11:02 AM
The last card that I drew was a Lim-Dul's Vault. If I had drawn it a turn earlier, I would have searched for Top and then done IGG -> Doomsday loop for exactly 36. It was there... I was just a turn late on the draw.

Rock Lee
04-10-2011, 12:03 PM
Is it just the alcohol in my body or is this thread cut?

Anyway, I've seen you boarded in the Titan vs Doomsday, so it's meant for MUs where you need to be fast?

Against the Show & Tell Doomsday build I sided in a titan bringing me to 3. Against the Tendrils-Shelldock Doomsday I sided out a titan bringing me to 1. Lifegain is important if you have answers for their shelldock plan, but it forces them to go for IGG loop, which means my crop rotations are just as important to duress as force of wills and mindbreak traps. Its a significantly harder route to take and exactly what I need to force them into.

Also, fixed the report to not be cut off. very weird.

Jaynel
04-10-2011, 05:50 PM
Glacial Chasm isn't in your list above, but you tutor it up in the finals. I'm assuming it's somewhere in the board (over Maze of Ith)?

Rock Lee
04-10-2011, 06:12 PM
Glacial Chasm isn't in your list above, but you tutor it up in the finals. I'm assuming it's somewhere in the board (over Maze of Ith)?

Oh, I copy-pasted an old version of the report I had saved. It is in the place of the All is Dust in the SB. I'll fix it =D

wweenieking
04-10-2011, 06:21 PM
Jaynel your alive!

Beatusnox
04-11-2011, 04:13 AM
THIS DECK IS SO BAD!!! From what i hear more and more you havent won half the events you list yourself as winning. I dont know who is the bigger joke, the deck or the player

Haters gotta hate.

J.V.
04-11-2011, 06:55 AM
THIS DECK IS SO BAD!!! From what i hear more and more you havent won half the events you list yourself as winning. I dont know who is the bigger joke, the deck or the player

http://cdn0.knowyourmeme.com/i/000/093/983/original/NOT-SURE-IF-TROLL-OR-JUST-VERY-STUPID.jpg?1295395409
Anyways, Congrats Jer!

warallthetimne
04-11-2011, 10:38 AM
Neither to be honest, it would be nice if ppl posting their "touranment reports" be honest in how they report them. I cant personally vouch for this particular one, but others tha Rock has claimed to have won with his "one of a kinda, first of" creation is untrue. I have both been at events and have had friends at events that he claims to have won and while he did top 8, managed to scrub out in the first round of single elim. Not sure how telling the truth is trolling, i must be confused what the definition is.

Rock Lee
04-11-2011, 03:21 PM
Neither to be honest, it would be nice if ppl posting their "touranment reports" be honest in how they report them. I cant personally vouch for this particular one, but others tha Rock has claimed to have won with his "one of a kinda, first of" creation is untrue. I have both been at events and have had friends at events that he claims to have won and while he did top 8, managed to scrub out in the first round of single elim. Not sure how telling the truth is trolling, i must be confused what the definition is.

More details and less vaguarities. I have never claimed to have won events I haven't. I have claimed to win prize and listed what they were. I also haven't scrubbed out in the 1st round of top 8 while piloting this deck to my knowledge. In all my showings with it I either miss top 8 on breakers (4 times in the last 3 months), get blown out in round 1-2 by nutty combo hands (once, Edison NJ), or make the finals win or lose (5 times in the last 3 months). Its possible you're reading my declaration of prize in a report as "I win 1st lululul" when I lost in the finals. But if you read reports instead of relying on what sounds like 3rdhand info you would know this.

All this is moot though, since as JV said you're obviously trolling or very very ill informed/dense.

RandomTask
04-11-2011, 11:51 PM
For what it's worth, I've seen the top 8's myself, so count me on the-author-is-telling-the-truth side. Logically, this also puts me on the you're-a-douche-for-trying-to-throw-dirt-on-somebody's-name side, warall.

overpowered
04-12-2011, 12:41 PM
The most likely two answers are: One of you is lying (I tend to believe tournament reports with game by game annotation over baseless slander), or someone is running a copycat deck. Considering the cost of candelabra's at the moment, it is safe to assume the former. Provided evidence of a tournament report and several witnesses who can claim this to be true there is only one logical conclusion:
Warallthetime is lying.


Congratulations on the win! I hope to play against this deck sometime soon. It seems like an interesting and fun match-up.

J.V.
04-12-2011, 03:24 PM
Jer I just read you prop/slops section now, I'm sorry, but can "Rip a left turn at that T-Section yo and Bust it to the Freeway like you got a purpose." possibly be a slop?

Koby
04-12-2011, 03:33 PM
Briefly about the recent changes. Brainstorm became extremely logical with the cutting of Thirst for Knowledge and opting for more shuffle effects with Trinket Mage. Also having 2 Candelabra of Tawnos left me often fishing for them instead of being comfortable with them and 3 felt much more relaxed. The other card choices are all quite logical and are intuitive leaps against particular matchups.


Pretty sure Trinket Mage was run on some MTGO lists all while you were stating that you wouldn't change.


Hmm I think Trinket Mage fits the slot of TfK better

Your idea is sound, however I consider your innovative approach fundamentally flawed, which is common among most optimizers.

Why the change of tune?

warallthetimne
04-12-2011, 04:06 PM
Im only going to post one more time, only based on the fact that now ive been called a liar. There was a legacy event several monthes ago at the umass dartmouth campus that rock wrote a flowery post about how amazing and inovating his "tournament winning" deck was. I know for a fact he didnt win the event and reading his reports have just become rediculous because he basically states the deck has no bad matchups and downs everyones discussion on possible improvements only to make then a month later and act like it was an original ideas. There is nothing orginal about this deck, hes just the first to post about this deck on the source so no one argues to the opposite.....except me the lying troll...

Rock Lee
04-12-2011, 06:47 PM
Pretty sure Trinket Mage was run on some MTGO lists all while you were stating that you wouldn't change.

Why the change of tune?

I suppose I didn't compile my list of updates. But to put it briefly, there are two major filtering card slots in the deck with 4 contenders. Trinket Mage, Thirst for Knowledge, Ponder, and Brainstorm.

I started with TFK/Ponder because it was the most logical in my mind. Trinket Mage and TFK are too bulky to give you early answers, and TFK let you play around blue significantly better, which I viewed as the most prominent threat to the deck. I found that the deck punches Blue in the face significantly easier than other decks, so it didn't need TFK, and explored Trinket Mage at the time lists were showing up online piloted by PTPaul (http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/member.php?5072-PTPaul), a friend.

After looking at Trinket mage I realized it was a significantly better draw later in the game and ran the deck with Trinket Mage/Ponder for awhile. While this was strong, it didn't deal well with overflow and poor selection the way you could just power through with TFK. Enter Brainstorm. Brainstorm abuses your added shuffle affects even more and effectively smoothing out the worrysome early concerns while synergizing with the later shuffle affects.

TLDR: When I commented on it, the deck was X & Ponder, and ponder doesn't play well with Trinket Mage.

Rock Lee
04-12-2011, 06:55 PM
There was a legacy event several monthes ago at the umass dartmouth campus that rock wrote a flowery post about how amazing and inovating his "tournament winning" deck was. I know for a fact he didnt win the eventl...

Last troll feeding. I swear. -2-19-11-Legacy-Underground-Seas]Link to the TO posting that I won the event in question on these forums. (http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/showthread.php?19484-[Tournament)

You gave it a good attempt bridge-sitter, but eventually your swirling bloodcrazed logic got the best of you.

evanmartyr
04-15-2011, 08:43 PM
I hate Primeval Titan but I love this deck. Curse you, Lee, for bringing about such cognitive dissonance.

Mind Harness is quite obviously a kewl card, but why are you running it? It seems like of the creatures it can possibly snag, Gaddock Teeg is the only one you care about and Mind Harness doesn't actually do anything about him. There are better answers to Welder, so it can't be him can it?

Rock Lee
04-16-2011, 04:16 AM
I hate Primeval Titan but I love this deck. Curse you, Lee, for bringing about such cognitive dissonance.

Mind Harness is quite obviously a kewl card, but why are you running it? It seems like of the creatures it can possibly snag, Gaddock Teeg is the only one you care about and Mind Harness doesn't actually do anything about him. There are better answers to Welder, so it can't be him can it?

There are answers in the thread in the development forum on the deck, but to answer quickly. Mind Harness is equally for Knight of the Reliquary, Gaddock Teeg, and Goblin Lackey. As I mentioned, all teeg decks have to win by attacking and teeg only removes your ability to play your removal, not your win conditions. So buying time against them is everything you need. Welder has never been an issue and I wouldn't even side Mind Harness in against him.

scrumdogg
04-16-2011, 05:29 PM
Besides, stealing Teeg brings the attack phase to a screeching halt, otherwise they kill him via combat and you untap...

Joe_C
04-16-2011, 10:05 PM
It's not even funny how this deck can ignore the cumulative upkeep for mind harness as well. Most decks would have issues keeping it in play very long. Pay 8 to keep it? No problem!

Rock Lee
04-17-2011, 12:16 AM
It's not even funny how this deck can ignore the cumulative upkeep for mind harness as well. Most decks would have issues keeping it in play very long. Pay 8 to keep it? No problem!

There are also dirty tricks with repeal and Tabernacle you can pull with mind harness itself. As I mentioned, with a Harness'd Teeg your search is not hindered at all, so untapping to kill teeg via tabernacle trigger leaves you in the perfect Charlie Sheen winning situation. With non-teeg's Mind Harnessed you can repeal Mind Harness in response to the Tabernacle Trigger, return your mind harness, and let the tabernacle trigger kill the creature you don't control anymore, but whose trigger you control. Its dirty in a way that makes me respect swine.

mchainmail
04-17-2011, 02:26 AM
and let the tabernacle trigger kill the creature you don't control anymore, but whose trigger you control. Its dirty in a way that makes me respect swine.

Wow, that's dirty. Also, the first positive use for the re-errata of Tabernacle a year or so ago. (From Sacrifice to Destroy)