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mastermind2563
04-10-2011, 10:36 PM
R/B HelmLine

Creatures
4 Simian Spirit Guide
4 Goblin Welder

perm
04-11-2011, 02:11 AM
R/B HelmLine

Creatures
4 Simian Spirit Guide
4 Goblin Welder
I wouldn't take this to a tourney

death
04-11-2011, 11:46 PM
How about this one? Strictly R/B as originally suggested.

Creatures
4 Simian Spirit Guide
4 Goblin Welder

Sorceries
4 Gamble
4 Thoughtseize

Artifacts
4 Serum Powder
4 Helm of Obedience
4 Sensei's Divining Top
3 Lion's Eye Diamond
3 Mox Opal

Enchantment
4 Leyline of the Void

Lands
1 Swamp
3 Ancient Tomb
2 City of Traitors
3 Scalding Tarn
2 Bloodstained Mire
4 Great Furnace
3 Vault of Whispers
4 Badlands

death
04-12-2011, 11:08 AM
3 Polluted Delta

Fixed. Scalding Tarns are better off as Deltas. Gamplan is simple, open with a Leyline or powder a hand into one. Drop Welder and then Helm. Helm gets countered/destroyed, just weld it back. I ran a few games and Serum Powder is amazing in this deck. It can be cast as a mana source and it turns on an Opal at the very least.

Serum Powder

12/1/2004: Unlike a normal mulligan, Serum Powder lets you draw the same number of cards that were in your hand, not one less. If you have already taken one mulligan and your hand contains six cards including a Serum Powder, you can choose to exile those six cards and draw six new cards.

There is also synergy between Gamble/LED/Thoughtseize and Welder. The combo is faster if you happen to discard Helm and weld it back to activate it. In my initial games, this has been tearing up Goyf (Bant) and Stalker decks obv.

MeddlingMageGR
04-13-2011, 07:31 PM
my try ...

http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/showthread.php?20083-Helm-of-the-Void&p=524116

death
04-13-2011, 10:29 PM
I don't mean to piss on your decklist but a Wasteland on your Cloudpost means you just lost 2 turns. Your manabase also don't support hardcasting Leyline and there's no way to tutor for your win conditions (Staff of Domination and Helm of Obedience) unless you lucksack heavily. With Metalworker and Sol-lands, I'd rather play Kuldotha MUD or Stax if I feel like dusting off 3spheres and Chalices.

death
04-15-2011, 10:23 AM
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0:00:00 [mofunk] It is now turn 1 (mofunk)
0:00:10 [xo] xo plays Leyline of the Void from Hand
0:00:20 [mofunk] mofunk plays Tropical Island from Hand
0:00:29 [mofunk] mofunk plays AEther Vial from Hand
0:00:32 [mofunk] <mofunk> End my turn

0:00:33 [xo] It is now turn 1 (xo)
0:00:35 [xo] xo draws a card
0:00:38 [xo] xo plays Badlands from Hand
0:00:47 [xo] xo plays Sensei's Divining Top from Hand
0:00:50 [xo] <xo> End my turn

0:00:51 [mofunk] It is now turn 2 (mofunk)
0:00:52 [mofunk] It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
0:00:53 [mofunk] AEther Vial now has 1 (+1) counters.
0:00:54 [mofunk] mofunk draws a card
0:00:56 [mofunk] mofunk plays Tundra from Hand
0:01:02 [mofunk] mofunk plays Shaman en-Kor from Hand
0:01:04 [mofunk] <mofunk> End my turn

0:01:06 [xo] It is now turn 2 (xo)
0:01:07 [xo] It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
0:01:06 [xo] xo taps Badlands
0:01:09 [xo] xo is looking top 3 cards of its Library...
0:01:19 [xo] xo stops looking its Library...
0:01:22 [xo] xo draws a card
0:01:25 [xo] xo taps Sensei's Divining Top
0:01:27 [xo] xo draws a card
0:01:29 [xo] xo puts a Sensei's Divining Top on top of Library from Play
0:01:30 [xo] xo plays Badlands from Hand
0:01:33 [xo] xo plays Goblin Welder from Hand
0:01:39 [xo] <xo> End my turn

0:01:41 [mofunk] It is now turn 3 (mofunk)
0:01:42 [mofunk] It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
0:01:43 [mofunk] AEther Vial now has 2 (+1) counters.
0:01:44 [mofunk] mofunk draws a card
0:01:53 [mofunk] mofunk plays Living Wish from Hand
0:01:54 [mofunk] mofunk puts Living Wish to RFG from Play
0:01:58 [mofunk] mofunk puts Daru Spiritualist to Hand play from Sideboard
0:02:03 [mofunk] mofunk taps Shaman en-Kor
0:02:06 [xo] xo's life total is now 19 (-1)
0:02:08 [mofunk] <mofunk> End my turn

0:02:10 [xo] It is now turn 3 (xo)
0:02:13 [xo] xo draws a card
0:02:17 [xo] xo plays Lion's Eye Diamond from Hand
0:02:23 [xo] xo plays City of Traitors from Hand
0:02:28 [xo] xo plays Serum Powder from Hand
0:02:31 [xo] xo taps Serum Powder
0:02:34 [xo] xo plays Sensei's Divining Top from Hand
0:02:47 [xo] xo sacrifices Lion's Eye Diamond
0:02:49 [xo] xo puts Helm of Obedience to Graveyard from Hand
0:03:03 [xo] xo taps Goblin Welder
0:03:07 [xo] xo sacrifices Serum Powder
0:03:11 [xo] xo puts Helm of Obedience into play from Graveyard
0:03:16 [xo] xo taps Helm of Obedience
0:03:31 [xo] <xo> gg
0:03:35 [mofunk] <mofunk> lucky
0:03:37 [<System>] <System> Player Lost


A turn 1 Leyline + Welder, turn 2 LED, crack + weld Helm back into play is even luckier. The decklist is something I plucked out of the air in like 10 minutes. I didn't think it would be a blast to play. The Simian Spirit Guides don't feel quite well. I might try Burning Wish to grab those Shattering Sprees for Pithing Needle or Revoker.

As for the OP, are you still around to give a comment?

lebarion
04-15-2011, 10:38 AM
This seems funny, I'll try it for sure.
Maybe add more discard or protection in the place of Simian Spirit Guide? Even Blood Moon can be interesting, with a few changes in the mana base.

Karhumies
04-15-2011, 08:33 PM
Some very rough ideas:

Mana 34 (18 land + 16 other)
2 Swamp
4 Badlands
4 Bloodstained Mire
1 Verdant Catacombs (any B fetch)
1 Marsh Flats (any B fetch)
2 Great Furnace
2 Vault of Whispers
2 City of Traitors
- - - - -
4 Serum Powder
4 Lion's Eye Diamond
4 Lotus Petal
4 Dark Ritual (works with Leyline and Helm)

Win 6
4 Leyline of the Void
2 Helm of Obedience (1 is enough to win)

Disruption 4
4 Thoughtseize

Filter 12
4 Infernal Tutor (with LED, why not?)
4 Gamble
4 Sensei's Divining Top

Creatures 4
4 Goblin Welder


Sideboard #1:
Chalice of the Void @ 1
Meltdown / Shattering Spree (vs P.Needle, P.Revoker, Null Rod)
Vexing Shusher / Overmaster / REB (vs counters)
(Rolling) Earthquake / Flame Slash / Ghastly Demise / Firestorm / Go For the Throat (vs creatures)
some card to work as an out vs resolved Leyline of Sanctity?
potentially Innocent Blood / Edict effects vs Show and Tell meta

Sideboard #2: (rough sketch)
4 Entomb
4 Reanimate
2 Exhume
1 Inkwell Leviathan
1 Platinum Emperion
1 Sphinx of the Steel Wind
1 Sundering Titan
1 Iona


Other cards to consider using:
Tombstalker
Phyrexian Arena
Dark Confidant