[Vote] For Your Banner

[cdr]

What the hell is that card in between "The" and "Source"?

You get to vote for 4-5 (potentially) new cards in the banner. No duals, no fetches, no basic lands that aren't Island.

Force of Will, Wasteland, Brainstorm, Tarmogoyf, Swords to Plowshares, and Aether Vial are staying.

How this is going to work:
- List 4 or 5 cards you think are representative of legacy and representative of as many top decks as possible.
- Something like Ponder does the same thing as Brainstorm and is in the same decks, so it's probably not something to vote for. Same thing for Path to Exile.
- Use this format: "1) Island 2) Knight of the Reliquary 3) Thoughtsieze 4) Sensei's Divining Top 5) Spell Pierce"
- Your #1 vote gets 5 points, your #2 gets 4, and so on.
- Feel free to discuss in the same post you vote.

For reference, here's the top 50ish eligible cards from the nine post-Survival SCG Open T16s - yes, you can vote for cards that aren't here:


Island 285
Ponder 139
Krosan Grip 137
Knight of the Reliquary 127
Daze 124
Thoughtseize 111
Sensei's Divining Top 106
Spell Pierce 104
Pithing Needle 103
Noble Hierarch 98
Qasali Pridemage 85
Dark Confidant 83
Green Sun's Zenith 80
Hymn to Tourach 73
Llawan, Cephalid Empress72
Engineered Plague 70
Natural Order 65
Umezawa's Jitte 64
Path to Exile 62
Tormod's Crypt 60
Mindbreak Trap 59
Jace, the Mind Sculptor 58
Cabal Therapy 56
Engineered Explosives 56
Relic of Progenitus 55
Emrakul, the Aeons Torn 54
Coralhelm Commander 53
Cursecatcher 52
Lion's Eye Diamond 52
Lord of Atlantis 52
Merrow Reejerey 52
Red Elemental Blast 52
Silvergill Adept 52
Duress 51
Ethersworn Canonist 51
Narcomoeba 50
Show and Tell 50
Counterbalance 49
Intuition 49
Seat of the Synod 49
Careful Study 48
Chain of Vapor 48
Mutavault 48
Putrid Imp 48
Stifle 48


Non-eligible:

Force of Will 280
Wasteland 258
Brainstorm 256
Tarmogoyf 215
Swords to Plowshares 177
Aether Vial 111


Misty Rainforest 186
Tropical Island 124
Windswept Heath 119
Verdant Catacombs 112
Polluted Delta 101
Flooded Strand 97
Underground Sea 95
Forest 87
Wooded Foothills 76
Plains 69
Mountain 68
Scalding Tarn 68
Tundra 66
Marsh Flats 53
Savannah 52

[(nameless one)]

Honesty, I think we should just replace SotF with Green Sun's Zenith. The banner itself is cool as it is.

[Wanderlust]

1) Lion's Eye Diamond 2) Knight of the Reliquary 3) Life from the Loam 4) Sensei's Divining Top 5) Dark Confidant

[death]

What the hell is that card in the banner in between "The" and "Source"?
Looks like a limited edition Dark Ritual.


The banner itself is cool as it is.

Not as cool as this:

1) GOBLIN WELDER
2) Metalworker
3) Time Spiral
4) Stifle (Scourge)
5) Argothian Enchantress

[Shawn]

1) Counterbalance
2) Lion's Eye Diamond
3) Stifle
4) Tendrils of Agony
5) Natural Order

[chinEsE girl]

My votes;

1 - Sensei's Divining Top: Recognized as one of the quintessential cards of the format. The reason that counterbalance is on the banner in the first place, and still played heavily in Junk while countertop decks are a bit weak at the moment.
2 - Dark Confidant: It took a while, but confidant is finally starting to see the level of play that's made it a staple across all formats. When you play black, chances are you're picking the color so you can run this sweet two drop.
3 - Knight of the Reliquary: Pretty much the single reason Junk is a tier 1 deck. Also turbocharges bant and zoo to higher power levels. The best green creature in legacy since goyf.
4 - Jace the Mind Sculptor: I wish I could vote him #1 because of him being a boss and all, he's still not really indicative of legacy quite yet. But he'll get there soon enough, I'm sure.
5 - Ponder: Part of the reason blue combo can be so consistent is the new crop of 1 mana cantrips that got released within only the last few years. The history it has in the format means it beats out preordain (which is still too new) for the last spot.

[hyc8028]

1) Lion's Eye Diamond - Represent Combo
2) Sensei's Divining Top - Represent Control
3) Dark Confidant - Best 2 drop beside Tarmogoyf
4) Hymn to Tourach - The best 2 for 1 in the game
5) Knight of Reliquary - The best 3 drop in legacy

Honorable Mention: Jace, the Mind Sculptor, Natural Order, Umezawa's Jitte, Thoughtseize

[NecroYawgmoth]

1) Dark Confidant
2) Sensei's Divining Top
3) Tendrils of Agony
4) Knight of the Reliquary
5) Ichorid

[god_campbell]

1) Sensei's Divining Top, 2)Stifle 3)Jace, the Mind Sculptor 4) Daze 5) Lion's Eye Diamond

[TheInfamousBearAssassin]

1 Sensei's Divining Top
2 Vengeful Dreams
3 Bartel Runeaxe
4 Irini Sengir
5 Silvos, Rogue Elemental

[DerFern]

1) Lion's Eye Diamond
2) Dark Confidant
3) Sensei's Divining Top
4) Stifle
5) Lightning Bolt

[Sintheros]

1) Hymn to Tourach (wolf/Susan Van Camp art)
2) Knight of the Reliquary (CFX art)
3) Dark Confidant
4) Ichorid
5) Lion's Eye Diamond

[dsck]

1) Dark Confidant
2) Lion's Eye Diamond
3) Mother of Runes
4) Lightning Bolt
5) Jace, the Mind Sculptor

[kiblast]

1) Jace, the Mind Sculptor
2) Jace, the Mind Sculptor
3) Jace, the Mind Sculptor
4) Jace, the Mind Sculptor
5) Jace, the Mind Sculptor

Seriously, Jace needs to fit there.


1) Jace, the Mind Sculptor
2) Dark Confidant
3) Sensei's Divining top
4) Natural Order
5) Ichorid.

[kusumoto]

1. Show and Tell
2. Stifle
3. Life from the Loam
4. Thoughtseize
5. Dark Confidant


I think Show and Tell is for real these days and deserves some representation. If nothing else it isn't as redundant as a lot of the options we have.

[Squirrel]

1) Lion's Eye Diamond
2) Stifle
3) Jace, the mind sculptor
4) Knight of the Reliquary
5) Emrakul, the Aeons Torn

[jamesh]

didn't we do this already?

[perm]

1) Dark Confidant
2) Krosan Grip
3) Hymn to Tourach
4) Jace
5) Stoneforge

[Doomsday]

1) Lion's Eye Diamond
2) Goblin Lackey
3) Natural Order
4) Counterbalance
5) Thoughtseize

[MSC]

1) Jace TMS
2) Dark Confidant
3) Counterbalance
4) Lightning Bolt

[sdematt]

1) Dark Confidant
2) Sensei's Divining Top
3) Knight of the Reliquary
4) Counterbalance
5) Dark Ritual (cooler picture than LED :P)

-Matt

[Justin]

It seems wrong to take Goblin Lackey off the list. I think that red and black should be represented:

1) Goblin Lackey
2) Dark Confidant
3) Dark Ritual
4) Thoughtseize
5) Grim Lavamancer

[OurSerratedDust]

1) Sensei's Divining Top
2) Knight of the Reliquary
3) Jace the Mindsculptor
4) Emrakul, the Aeon's Torn
5) Krosan Grip

[Whippoorwill]

1) Natural Order
2) Lord of Atlantis
3) Jace, the Mindsculptor
4) Lion's Eye Diamond
5) Lotus Petal

[trivial_matters]

1) Sensei's Divining Top
2) Dark Confidant
3) Dark Ritual
4) Qasali Pridemage
5) Goblin Lackey
6) Fog Bank
There should be at least one red card on the banner, IMO.

[Infinitium]

1) Chalice of the Void
2) Lion's Eye Diamond
3) Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
4) Sensei's Divining Top
5) Lightning Bolt

[TossUsToLions]

1.) Goblin Lackey (From the Vault art)
2.) Sensei's Divining Top
3.) Lion's Eye Diamond
4.) Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
5.) Knight of the Reliquary

We need to represent combo and the color red. Emrakul shows the brokenness/awesomeness of the format.

[Scordata]

1) Dark Confidant
2) Stifle
3) Sensei's Divining Top
4) Lightning Bolt
5) Lion's Eye Diamond

[Jason]

1. Goblin Lackey
2. Sensei's Divining Top
3. Tendrils of Agony
4. Lord of Atlantis
5. Nefarious Lich

[TheInfamousBearAssassin]

This Confidant vs. Top race is exciting.

[Jason]

This Confidant vs. Top race is exciting.

By my count, it's 15-15?

EDIT: It's weighted haha. Reading comprehension for the win!

[TheInfamousBearAssassin]

58-57 weighted vote, with Top slightly ahead. LED is distant third at 42, with everyone else far behind (I think Knight was fourth with twenty or so, but I stopped counting when it became obvious he wasn't going to catch up.)

[Tim the Enchanter]

1) Dark Confidant
2) Knight of the Reliquary
3) Tendrils (FNM)
4) Natural Order
5) Top

[Malchar]

1. Goblin Lackey

Goblins has consistently been a DTB for longer than most other decks have existed. Turn 1 lackey still dictates many deck-building constraints. I won't give votes to anything else.

[trivial_matters]

I think Top should beat Dark Confidant. It's played in more decks than Confidant, including but in no way limited to CounterTop, which itself is an incredibly varied archetype. Dark Confidant is awesome and appeals to me more than Top, but Top has been and still is such an important part of Legacy that it absolutely deserves to place first. I'm surprised Counterbalance got chosen over it in the past.

Jace is undoubtedly very powerful, but the card is quite new, so I reckon it should wait a bit.

[sdematt]

Will the same number of total spaces remain constant?

I agree, for one, that Lackey should be on there as an auto-include. It's the only red card, and also represents Tribal in general, but more specifically, Goblins :P

-Matt

[cdr]

Will the same number of total spaces remain constant?

I agree, for one, that Lackey should be on there as an auto-include. It's the only red card, and also represents Tribal in general, but more specifically, Goblins :P

-Matt

We might shorten it to 10 (from 11) if it isn't close. Six slots are locked, so 4-5 up for grabs.

Lackey wasn't an auto only because it's been awhile since goblins has really performed well - merfolk way outperformed it in the SCGs.

[jjjoness']

Why not use Cavius day's banner? :D

On a more serious note:

1) Tendrils needs to stay
2) Divining Top
3) Lackey needs to stay
4) LED
5) Daze

[TheInfamousBearAssassin]

Sensei's Divining Top
Aether Vial
Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
Wasteland
Lion's Eye Diamond
Swords to Plowshares
Brainstorm
Force of Will
Hymn to Tourach
Lightning Bolt
Tarmogoyf

I'm fairly certain that that covers 95% and up of Legacy.

Actually, I'm having difficulty thinking of a deck besides Enchantress that doesn't run at least one of those cards.

eta: Only 7 of the 160 decks to top 8 a Legacy Open in the past year didn't have one of the above cards-1 Enchantress, 1 Elves sans Emrakul for some reason, 2 Affinity and 3 LED-less Ichorid- so yeah, a bit more than 95%.

[(nameless one)]

Sensei's Divining Top
Aether Vial
Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
Wasteland
Lion's Eye Diamond
Swords to Plowshares
Brainstorm
Force of Will
Hymn to Tourach
Lightning Bolt
Tarmogoyf

I'm fairly certain that that covers 95% and up of Legacy.

Actually, I'm having difficulty thinking of a deck besides Enchantress that doesn't run at least one of those cards.

eta: Only 7 of the 160 decks to top 8 a Legacy Open in the past year didn't have one of the above cards-1 Enchantress, 1 Elves sans Emrakul for some reason, 2 Affinity and 3 LED-less Ichorid- so yeah, a bit more than 95%.

Why Hymn to Tourach over Dark Confidant?

Other than that, I think IBA got it wrapped up.

As for the art:

Sensei's Divining Top - Only one art
Aether Vial - The original from Darksteel
Emrakul - Prerelease Promo, because I see that more often than the regular version
Wasteland - Tempest art, its the classic one
Lion's Eye Diamond - Only one art
Swords to Plowshares - The Alpha art. Enough said
Brainstorm - The Mercadian Masque art, that art also reminds me of Super Jace for some reason.
Force of Will - Only one art
Hymn to Tourach - The one by Liz Danforth art because it looks more ritualist than the rest of themDark Confidant - Only one art
Lightning Bolt - The Alpha art
Tarmogoyf - Only one art

[spartan117]

1) stifle
2) daze
3) lightning bolt
4) standstill
5) spell pierce

[Zork]

1) Knight of the Reliquary
2) Sensei's Divining Top
3) Dark Confidant
4) Lion's Eye Diamond
5) Umezawa's Jitte

[IsThisACatInAHat?]

1) Sensei's Divining Top
2) Show and Tell
3) Green Sun's Zenith
4) Lord of Atlantis
5) Lightning Bolt

Now that Legacy's had a major paradigm shift away from Counterbalance, silly dated cards like Lackey and Tendrils can be scratched off for the new order of cards. That, and Lord of Atlantis. Despite how little I want to see a merfolk up there, the deck has been a defining check to combo since Lorwyn. It kind of deserves its spot.

[2Rach]

1. Sensei's Divining Top
2. Lion's Eye Diamond
3. Natural Order
4. Thoughtseize
5. Dark Confidant

[4eak]

1) Extirpate
2) Didgeridoo
3) Nefarious Lich
4) Weathered Wayfarer (http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/showthread.php?15562-%5BDeck%5D-UW-Tempo) (Jotun Grunt or Fathom Seer are also acceptable in this slot)
5) Cloudpost (http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/showthread.php?20012-%5BDeck%5D-Turbo-Eldrazi)
6) Fog Bank (why not?)
...
99) Grapeshot
...
9001 [at the very least]) JesusChristit'salion (http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-15964.html) (I believe that was the name) -- :w: 20/20 vanilla beater


-or-

A better list:
1) Island
2) Sensei's Divining Top
3) Daze
4) Krosan Grip
5) Tormod's Crypt


peace,
4eak

[cdr]

Finally, someone gets on the Island bandwagon. Card is dominating legacy and somehow gets no respect.

[KindGrind]

1) Green Sun's Zenith
2) Lion's Eye Diamond
3) Sensei's DIvining Top
4) Goblin Lackey
5) Thoughtseize

[Amon Amarth]

1) Goblin Lackey
2) SDT
3) LED
4) Confidant
5) Counterbalance

[jeanbathez]

1) Sensei's Divining Top
2) Knight of the Reliquary
3) Jace the Mindsculptor
4) Goblin Lackey
5) Dark Confidant

[tsabo_tavoc]

1. Lich
2. Nefarious Lich
3. Tendrils of Agony
4. Dread Return
5. Phyrexian Obliterator

These cards are simply too undercosted to be fair in Legacy. Fortunately, Legacy is a gentleman's format and fair decks are dominant where junkier cards can see play, such as

1. High Tide
2. Mox Opal
3. Sensei's Divining Top
4. Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
5. Knight of the Reliquary

[Mictlantecuhtli]

1) High Tide
2) Jace, the Mind Sculptor
3) Lion's Eye Diamond
4) Dark Confidant
5) Ichorid

[JamieW89]

1)Sensei's Divining Top
2)Lion's Eye Diamond
3)Hymn To Tourach
4)Life from the Loam
5)Goblin Lackey

[Brushwagg]

1. Progenitus
2. Dark Confidant
3. Emrakul
4. Knight of the Reliquary
5. Green Sun's Zenith

Be sad to see Survival go, but it is banned and had a good run.

[eq.firemind]

Pernicious Deed
Lion's Eye Diamond
Ancient Tomb
Tendrils of Agony
Sensei's Divining Top

[NesretepNoj]

1 Lion's Eye Diamond
2 Sensei's Divining Top
3 Knight of the Reliquary
4 Dark Confidant
5 Goblin Lackey

[OurSerratedDust]

I didn't choose island because the artwork would probably not look particularly great on the banner.

[Brushwagg]

I would hate to see a basic land in the banner. Also what picture would you use? Everone likes different pictures on the lands and alot of them are just aweful looking. I would be all for a dual land going in there but not a basic.

[Jason]

I would hate to see a basic land in the banner. Also what picture would you use? Everone likes different pictures on the lands and alot of them are just aweful looking. I would be all for a dual land going in there but not a basic.

Snow-Covered Island from Ice Age. Best. Island. Ever. (but I do love my Snow-Covered lands so maybe I'm biased)

[Justin]

We might shorten it to 10 (from 11) if it isn't close. Six slots are locked, so 4-5 up for grabs.

Lackey wasn't an auto only because it's been awhile since goblins has really performed well - merfolk way outperformed it in the SCGs.

Goblins won the first couple SCGs of 2011 in the post-Survival era. This was only a few months ago. It's not like it hasn't put up results in a year. I think Goblins is still a deck to beat (or at least to watch). If you bring a deck to a Legacy tourney, whatever deck it might be, you still need to make sure that your deck doesn't lose to a Lackey connecting on turn two.

[Master Shake]

I'd rather see iconic, cards that begin with H on the banner personally. None of these are elgible but:

1. Hurloon Minotaur
2. Hypnotic Specter
3. Humility
4. Hundroog
5. Hymn to Tourach (all four pictures)

But really, the list we're presented to choose from is biased against cards that you only really need to play a single copy of to get the best effect such as Moat, Tendrils of Agony, Progenitus, Ad Nauseam, The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale and so on. These cards are basically all iconic of the format but aren't really represented from the sample size becuase it slants towards cards that everyone is going to play four of.

[cdr]

But really, the list we're presented to choose from is biased against cards that you only really need to play a single copy of to get the best effect such as Moat, Tendrils of Agony, Progenitus, Ad Nauseam, The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale and so on. These cards are basically all iconic of the format but aren't really represented from the sample size becuase it slants towards cards that everyone is going to play four of.

No one said you had to choose only from those.

Top 20 maindeck 1 ofs (out of 8585 cards):

Karakas 28
Dryad Arbor 14
Umezawa's Jitte 13
Horizon Canopy 12
Maze of Ith 11
Qasali Pridemage 11
Sword of Fire and Ice 11
Progenitus 9
Terastodon 9
Fauna Shaman 8
Flame-Kin Zealot 7
Mishra's Factory 7
Pithing Needle 7
Sylvan Library 7
Academy Ruins 6
Birds of Paradise 6
Moat 6
Rhox War Monk 6
Tendrils of Agony 6
Terravore 6


Top 20 maindeck 2 ofs:

Jace, the Mind Sculptor 34
Engineered Explosives 28
Dryad Arbor 16
Go for the Throat 16
Golgari Thug 16
Ponder 16
Qasali Pridemage 16
Spell Pierce 16
Trinket Mage 16
Horizon Canopy 14
Siege-Gang Commander 14
Spell Snare 14
Vendilion Clique 14
Counterspell 12
Kira, Great Glass-Spinner 12
Merfolk Sovereign 12
Sylvan Library 12
City of Traitors 10
Elspeth, Knight-Errant 10
Stoneforge Mystic 10


Combined:

Jace, the Mind Sculptor 38
Karakas 34
Engineered Explosives 33
Dryad Arbor 30
Qasali Pridemage 27
Horizon Canopy 26
Umezawa's Jitte 21
Spell Pierce 20
Ponder 19
Progenitus 19
Sylvan Library 19
Golgari Thug 18
Trinket Mage 18
Vendilion Clique 17
Go for the Throat 16
Spell Snare 16
Siege-Gang Commander 14
Terravore 14
Kira, Great Glass-Spinner 13
Merfolk Sovereign 13
Pernicious Deed 13

[Bignasty197]

1. Sensei's Divining Top
2. Dark Confidant
3. Goblin Lackey
4. Stifle
5. Natural Order

[TheInfamousBearAssassin]

9001 [at the very least]) JesusChristit'salion (http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-15964.html) (I believe that was the name) -- :w: 20/20 vanilla beater

http://i.imgur.com/WyAHF.jpg

[cdr]

Posts seem to be trailing off, so if you want to vote, now's the time.

[TheInfamousBearAssassin]

Why Hymn to Tourach over Dark Confidant?

You could go either way, but there are and have been decks like Team America/Eva Green etc. that use Hymn but don't use Dark Confidant. Hymn to Tourach is just a ridiculously powerful card that's constantly under-rated in this format. There's a recurring trend of Hymn falling out of popularity only to smash up a Grand Prix Top 8. I think it's comparable to Force of Will in terms of cards that decks aren't built around, but make an entire range of decks actually viable. It deserves more respect than it gets.

[Bardo]

* Brainstorm
* Force of Will
* Island (APAC, Red or Clear -- take your pick)
* Lion's Eye Diamond
* AEther Vial

Honorable Mention:

* Engineered Explosives

http://www.magiclibrarities.net/44-rarities-apac-lands-english-cards-red-booster.html

Or

http://www.magiclibrarities.net/45-rarities-apac-lands-english-cards-clear-booster.html

[Getsickanddie]

1) Knight of the Reliquary
2) Thoughtseize
3) Dark Confidant
4) Green Sun's Zenith
5) Jace, the Mind Sculptor

[Q 221]

1. Sensei's Divining Top
2. Lion's Eye Diamond
3. Spell Pierce
4. Cabal Therapy
5. Dark Confidant

[Zach Tartell]

http://www.magiclibrarities.net/44-rarities-apac-lands-english-cards-red-booster.html

http://www.magiclibrarities.net/45-rarities-apac-lands-english-cards-clear-booster.html

You're literally the worst human being for liking those islands. This is the best one:
http://magiccards.info/scans/en/7e/332.jpg

That is a gorgeous island. But I totally stand behind APAC - Red. / Bardo

[LegacyDan]

1) Sword of Fire and Ice - the art is great, iconic in its own way, and just a great equipment
2) Umezawa's Jitte - same reasons
3) Hymn to Tourach
4) Qasali Pridemage
5) Stoneforge Mystic - she is starting to make an impact on the format, and the art is just too cool

[Digital Devil]

1) Ichorid
2) Qasali Pridemage
3) Knight of the Reliquary
4) Lord of Atlantis
5) Lightning Bolt

[TheInfamousBearAssassin]

You're literally the worst human being for liking those islands. This is the best one:
http://magiccards.info/scans/en/7e/332.jpg

That is a gorgeous island. But I totally stand behind APAC - Red. / Bardo

http://i.imgur.com/avlce.jpg

Best lands ever.

http://i.imgur.com/wfURi.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/6Beg3.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/PqVT3.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/1EIsI.jpg

[Bardo]

You're literally the worst human being for liking those islands. This is the best one:
http://magiccards.info/scans/en/7e/332.jpg


(Is there a black-bordered printing of that card?) If Island somehow makes the cut, we should start a separate thread to discuss it. If it's going to be a group decision, I think we should put aside aesthetics and go with iconic. Like:

http://magiccards.info/scans/en/be/283.jpg
Or

http://magiccards.info/scans/en/guru/2.jpg

The basic land in Ravnica is amazing (I particularly like the Martiniere's swamps), but I think this is the superior Island:

http://magiccards.info/scans/en/rav/291.jpg

[kiblast]

http://www.abugames.com/images/products/promocards/islandurzassaganosymbol.jpg
I love this one.

Edit: (including symbol)

[hyc8028]

I vote for Guru Island!

[Amon Amarth]

I really hope the Island thing is a joke. It's not really indicative of anything except that Blue is good. Welcome to Magic: the Gathering.

...if pressed, I'd say the Guru one picture is the bestest.

[Doomsday]

Island has almost no votes. It won't be included so we don't need to pick a picture......but if we did, it should obviously be Unhinged.

[Zach Tartell]

(Is there a black-bordered printing of that card?) If Island somehow makes the cut, we should start a separate thread to discuss it. If it's going to be a group decision, I think we should put aside aesthetics and go with iconic. Like:

http://magiccards.info/scans/en/be/283.jpg


Nope. One-time only in Seventh. But I have a foil Japanese one if you want to be jealous of it.

[sdematt]

I beg to differ:

http://magiccards.info/mr/en/297.html

Or my personal favourite:

http://magiccards.info/mr/en/300.html

-Matt

[Amon Amarth]

I don't think I've seen that last one before. That thing is beautiful! I like how the last rays of light are washing over the water giving it orange hue. COOOOOOOLLLLLLL.

[(nameless one)]

No one likes the floating teacups (http://magiccards.info/zen/en/237.html) for islands?

[Brushwagg]

Since everyone else is doing it. This is one of my favorite pieces of art, not just for lands.

http://magiccards.info/scans/en/rav/291.jpg

[Jason]

Snow-Covered Island (http://deckbox.org/system/images/mtg/cards/2770.jpg)

The heads are sweet.

[Hereticfire]

1. Island (http://magiccards.info/mr/en/300.html)
2. Sensei's Divining Top (http://magiccards.info/chk/en/268.html)
3. Lion's Eye Diamond (http://magiccards.info/query?q=eye+diamond&v=card&s=cname)
4. Time Spiral (http://magiccards.info/query?q=time+spiral&v=card&s=cname)
5. Jace, The Mind Sculptor (http://magiccards.info/query?q=jace%2C+the&v=card&s=cname)

I hope I haven't missed the voting deadline!

[Iron_Blood]

1) Jace, the Mind Sculptor
2) Jace, the Mind Sculptor
3) Jace, the Mind Sculptor
4) Jace, the Mind Sculptor
5) Jace, the Mind Sculptor

Seriously, Jace needs to fit there.


1) Jace, the Mind Sculptor
2) Dark Confidant
3) Sensei's Divining top
4) Natural Order
5) Ichorid.

[TheInfamousBearAssassin]

Mirage is definitely the second-best (http://magiccards.info/mr/en/313.html) block for lands (http://magiccards.info/mr/en/309.html), after Ravnica (http://magiccards.info/rav/en/297.html). Third I would put on Kamigawa (http://magiccards.info/chk/en/304.html), fourth Odyssey. (http://magiccards.info/od/en/346.html)

[Koby]

I have (http://magiccards.info/po/en/207.html) always (http://magiccards.info/arena/en/10.html) enjoyed (http://magiccards.info/mm/en/338.html) cumulonimbus (http://magiccards.info/in/en/335.html) clouds (http://magiccards.info/ala/en/236.html).

[ramanujan]

Good Morning,

I vote for Candelabra of Tawnos.

[(nameless one)]

I know it's not even out yet but with all the talk about it, should Mental Misstep be considered?

[death]

The card hasn't even come out yet, it's not anywhere near established.

[baghdadbob]

force of will
ad nausem
swords
goyf
lackey
emrakrul

that way we have a card of each color.

[Carabas]

1. Life from the Loam
2. Dark Confidant
3. Lightning Bolt
4. Wild Nacatl
5. Moat

[cdr]

Voting closed, BTW. Banner under final consideration.

[troopatroop]

Jackal Pup
Granger Guildmage
Troll Ascetic
Worldgorger Dragon
Yavimaya Elder




aw shucks

[TheDarkshineKnight]

I was going to say:

Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
Goblin Piledriver
Counterbalance
Chalice of the Void
Life from the Loam

if I had made it into this topic in time.

[TheInfamousBearAssassin]

Jackal Pup
Granger Guildmage
Troll Ascetic
Worldgorger Dragon
Yavimaya Elder




aw shucks

<3

[Scordata]

Just noticed the new banner is up.
Looks awesome.

[Dragon_Whelp]

I can imagine Wizards banning LED next, just to spite the community...

Awesome banner, though.

[Digital Devil]

Isn't giving a spot to Mental Misstep a bit premature (and also redundant with FoW already in the banner)?

[Sims]

Isn't giving a spot to Mental Misstep a bit premature (and also redundant with FoW already in the banner)?

Not really. As much as I feel the card is over-hyped, the card will carve it's name into the legacy metagame. It's spot is warranted, especially with the upcoming GP, as everying is hyping the card as the second coming.

[Nihil Credo]

If Mental Misstep ends up having been massively overhyped, it will nevertheless remain notable for having been so legendarily overhyped, to the point of having been put on a playmat before it was even legal. Self-fulfilling prophecies FTW.

[lorddotm]

If Mental Misstep ends up having been massively overhyped, it will nevertheless remain notable for having been so legendarily overhyped, to the point of having been put on a playmat before it was even legal. Self-fulfilling prophecies FTW.

I want to see this moron's playmat.

[Peter_Rotten]

I want to see this moron's playmat.

Ask and ye shall receive.

[Dragon_Whelp]

Ask and ye shall receive.

No, no. While this is very helpful of you, I believe he was looking for a specific moron.

[Koby]

Time for a phantom edit?

[hyc8028]

Can lackey take the slot of MM?

[NecroYawgmoth]

or Ichorid?

[Sintheros]

I vote Ichorid.

[kiblast]

I vote Ichorid.

Either Ichorid or Dread Return.

[3eowulf]

I vote for Look at Me, I'm the DCI, so we don't have to change the banner every 3 months.

[(nameless one)]

I vote for Look at Me, I'm the DCI, so we don't have to change the banner every 3 months.

This. But to be serious, I think Tormod's Crypt is the better pick to represent graveyard strategies.

[Wereodile]

1) Lion's Eye Diamond'
2) Stifle
3) Ichorid
4) Life from the Loam
5) Knight of the Reliquary

[jamesh]

how could ichorid possibly be considered before LED?

[jjjoness']

how could ichorid possibly be considered before LED?

LED is right between Wasteland and Vial.

I vote for Nourishing Shoal or Lich. On a more serious note, Tendrils of Agony.

[wolfstorm]

LED would be fantastic imo

[spartan117]

I'd like to see lightning bolt or grim lavamancer in mm's slot, red needs its space in the banner.

[UnsungHero]

My picks....Any will do.

Mox Diamond (Stronghold)
Life from the Loam
Natural Order
Bridge From Below

And for those who are blind the current source banner is (from left to right)
Tarmogoyf,Sensei's Divining Top,Brainstorm(Masques),Wasteland,Lions Eye Diamond,Aether Vial,Force of Will,Swords to plowshares,Knight of the Reliquary,Dark Confidant,Hymm to Tourach, Mental Misstep.

[Jak]

Lightning Bolt, Burning Wish, Grim Lavamancer, Goblin Lackey, Life from the Loam, or Natural Order

[wolfstorm]

My picks....Any will do.

Mox Diamond (Stronghold)
Life from the Loam
Natural Order
Bridge From Below

And for those who are blind the current source banner is (from left to right)
Tarmogoyf,Sensei's Divining Top,Brainstorm(Masques),Wasteland,Lions Eye Diamond,Aether Vial,Force of Will,Swords to plowshares,Knight of the Reliquary,Dark Confidant,Hymm to Tourach, Mental Misstep.


Sigh, I just figured it wasn't up there since other people were suggesting it >< in that case..

Goblin Lackey, Lighting bolt, High tide, Life from the loam, stoneforge mystic

[mchainmail]

This is my vote:

http://gatherer.wizards.com/Handlers/Image.ashx?multiverseid=2497&type=card


(Yes, I know we have the *Masques* art of Brainstorm already. But the card is so important, it should be up there twice to reflect that.

Also, we get to replace 2 cards the next banned list update.

[JustPAT4]

1.) Red Elemental Blast
2.) Natural Order
3.) Stoneforge Mystic
4.) Jace, the Mind Sculpter
5.) Emrakul, the Aeons Torn

[KevinTrudeau]

1. Mystic Enforcer
2. Ichorid
3. Tendrils of Agony
4. Natural Order (simply because the art is tremendous, not necessarily because of format representation)
5. Burning Wish

[Admiral_Arzar]

High Tide, or Ichorid.

[thefringthing]

Currently there are 12 cards represented in the banner. If I were to pick out 12 cards for a post-Misstep banner, they would be:
Force of Will, Tarmogoyf, Lion's Eye Diamond, Aether Vial, Brainstorm, Stoneforge Mystic, Sensei's Divining Top, Wasteland, Knight of the Reliquary, Dread Return, Entomb, and Jace the Mind Scuptor.

[SHABOOGS]

Ichorid

[bfeingersh]

LED or Mox Diamond (Stronghold art).

[tsabo_tavoc]

This is my vote:

http://gatherer.wizards.com/Handlers/Image.ashx?multiverseid=2497&type=card


(Yes, I know we have the *Masques* art of Brainstorm already. But the card is so important, it should be up there twice to reflect that.

Also, we get to replace 2 cards the next banned list update.

Mad props, - Mental Misstep, + IA Brainstorm would be sooooo awesome and truly reprents Legacy.

Also, Stoneforge Mystic has to be there. I won't mind either Tarmogoyf or Dark Confidant go. Maybe there is a day Snapcaster Mage would substitute another card.

[Amon Amarth]

Gonna say High Tide or Ichorid.

[luckme10]

Snapcaster Mage

[SpikeyMikey]

Green Sun's Zenith. It's not a flashy card. But it has had as big of an impact on the format as Misstep, people just didn't notice it because it's not blue. But without GSZ, NO RUG doesn't exist. Zoo is half a tier worse than it is now. Maverick is too inconsistent. GSZ has subtly shaped this format more than Stoneforge Mystic and Jace 2.0 combined.

[Whippoorwill]

Show and Tell would be my nomination to the list since it represents multiple decks (SnT/Sneak Attack, Hive Mind, Reanimator).

[Que]

Ichorid would be mighty nice. Rk post /beast

[Wanderlust]

1. Natural Order
2. Time Spiral (better represents Spiral Tide than High Tide art imo)
3. Show and Tell
4. Stoneforge Mystic
5. Jace, the Mind Sculptor

[Digital Devil]

Ichorid - also former namesake of the most representative graveyard-based strategy.

[Richard Cheese]

Ichorid/Bridge/Dread Return is good. Lightning Bolt would be good too.

Also, change the Hymn art to the Quinton Hoover version, as it is by far the best one.

[SpikeyMikey]

Also, change the Hymn art to the Quinton Hoover version, as it is by far the best one.

BLASPHEMER!!! No Hymn art is as good as the Wolf Hymn. Wolf Hymns were only made by grinding a dozen of each of the other Hymns and then pressing all that Hymn-y goodness into a single card, then baptizing the new piece of cardboard in high end champagne. They are the saffron of the Hymn world.

[2Rach]

Meh. +1 on the change to Hoover art.



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I'm going to go with Stoneforge Mystic for the lost spot. Although Ichorid should definitely be on there.

[2Rach]

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gow the fuck do you know its a she though hah have u thought tooo much about it noy ou haven't shit foret i said anyðing grahhh


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