B/R midrange

[jlagrav]

Lands:
4 swamps
2 mountains
4 badlands
4 bloodstained more
4 cabal coffers
2 urborg, tomb of yawgmoth

Creatures:
4 dark confidant
4 grim lavamancer
4 phyrexian oblerator

Spells:
4 inquision of kozelik
4 terminate
4 diabolic edict
4 lightning bolt
4 blightning
3 sensi's diving top
3 beseech the queen
2 staff of domination

Sideboard:
4 pithing needle
4 hymn to tourach
3 extirpate
???





So, basically control the board with creature removal + burn and then bash face with oblerator. After testing a bit I already want to take out the urborg + coffers + staff combo to help draw through my deck, mostly because I feel like I never get enough red man a for my burn spells. Also dark confidant draws really well by himself. I am not sure what to replace it with. Any ideas?

Thanks!

[Jabari]

Did you mix up Leyline of Lightning and Hymn to Tourach? Why is Hymn sideboard and leyline main? Also If you're gonna run a BBBB spell you should absolutely keep urborg and cut more red spells. I wouldn't want to run more read than can be supported off of 4 Badlands and 4 Fetches.

I would suggest cutting Terminate for a different kill spell like Snuff Out or the like. and moving Leyline to the SB and Hymn to the Main.

[jlagrav]

yea that was my bad, it is supposed to be blightning, my tablet auto corrected it lol. Your right I might keep the urgorg but I think I might still cut the coffers for more fetches or mountains

Also I like terminate more because it doesn't have the no black creatures restriction. Snuff out would pretty much ge a dead draw against other black decks.

[Jabari]

In that case I would suggest also cutting the Staff, also I still think Hymn will serve you better than Blightning. Their are few things more crippling than hitting 2 lands off of Hymn and watching as they brick on land drops.

Also in that case a good substitute for Terminate might be Smother. It's the same cost but less restrictive your biggest problem is Tombstalker which you still have Edict for.

In place of Staff I would suggest maybe some Vampire Nighthawks to help with that problem.

[Mr_Miyagi]

Please, make the switch between Hymn to Tourach and Blightning pronto... it hurts my eyes see Hymns SB. How have the Cabal Coffers been working for you? I haven't seen them in a deck with non-swamp basics before, but i'd imagine it could be an issue even though you have Urborg, ToY. The land count is a bit low for your curve (ending at 4), 2 more lands should fix that. I wouldn't cut Terminate...its the best creaturekill in your colors, even more in the current times of Mental Misstep.

[jlagrav]

Yea I really like terminate for creature removal.

Coffers I think I am going to take out, this used to be mono black using coffers to ramp up to emrakul but I felt like switching it up. Coffers isnt that bad with only 2 lands (besides fetches) not being swamps but I'd rather have a few more red sources.

Yea I'm kinda torn between blightning and hymn, for only 1 extra mana I can do 3 damage and it's not a complete dead draw in when we are both in top deck mode.

I have also been thinking of taking out beseech the queen, it's kinda slow and it can really hurt with dark confidant since its cmc is 6. Maybe for some artifact removal? or maybe have both blightning and hymn?

[Richard Cheese]

No real reason to not be running Geth's Verdict with your manabase. I would probably make the following changes:

-4 Diabolic Edict
+4 Geth's Verdict

-3 Beseech the Queen
-1 Staff
+4 Chain Lightning

-1 Staff
-1 Top
-1/2 Blightning
+3/4 Hymn

[Greenpoe]

You could try to fit in Sygg, River Cutthroat instead of Beseech the Queen. It would probably need Searing Blaze instead of Terminate.

[Guy I Don't Know]

I would play gatekeeper of malakir before i played diabolic edict or geth's verdict. Also, you have no way to deal with equipment. Is your plan to kill every creature they have so they don't have anything to equip to?

I think you should state why you are running red. Is it just for grim lavamancer and terminate?

Playing Staff of Domination seems really slow... I thought you were trying to be aggressive until i saw the last few cards.

i would only play one mountain and I would play more fetches.

[jlagrav]

First if all, thanks everyone for your input.

I like geth's and diabolic over gatekeeper because they are instant speed and can help get rid of those annoying man lands.

I added red because I thought that the burn and lavamancer could help me control the board better against heavy agro decks and give me another way to do damage.

Since I am taking out beseech I would want to add the 4th top so I can take less damage from confidant. And yea without coffers I am taking out staff as well.

So deck list v2:

Lands:
6 swamps
2 mountains
4 badlands
4 bloodstained mire
4 other fetches

Creatures:
4 dark confidant
4 grim lavamancer
4 phyrexian oblerator
2 Sygg, River Cutthroat

Spells:
4 inquision of kozelik
4 terminate
4 geth's verdict
4 lightning bolt
2 blightning
4 sensi's diving top
4 hymn to tourach

[jlagrav]

Hmm I just had a random thought, what do you guys think about isocron septer as like a 2 of in the deck? It can win games by its self if left unanswered.

EDIT: never mind, I just realized that septer is instants only, I thought I'd be able to hymn or blightning someone every turn lol. But it could still be useful.