How do you use chains of Mephistopheles

[bracer028]

This card is really confusing.

This opening post is lacking content. Opening posts should be especially strong ones. Try fleshing out your concerns next time. This seems awfully close to a rules question, in which case, you likely have posted in the wrong forum.
-4eak

[I am the brainwasher]

http://magiccards.info/query?q=chains+of&v=card&s=cname
There you go. Still very complicated&confusing >.>

[bracer028]

so it only works during that players draw phase?

so brainstorm wouldn't really work against it

[evanmartyr]

No, Chains effects each draw that occurs OTHER than the first card drawn during the draw phase. So they get their regular card for free; any cards drawn after that or during your turn trigger the Chains effect.

[DragoFireheart]

This card is really confusing

By selling it on Ebay.

[Koby]

Donate -> Mystic Remora + Chains + 0 drop non-creature artifacts. or something like that.

Howling Mine maybe, or Temple Bell. It's decent in SuiBlack as a SB option against blue, but that's about it for actual practical uses.

[mchainmail]

Donate -> Mystic Remora + Chains + 0 drop non-creature artifacts. or something like that.

Howling Mine maybe, or Temple Bell. It's decent in SuiBlack as a SB option against blue, but that's about it for actual practical uses.

It saw Vintage play against Unrestricted Brainstorms.

[bracer028]

but you cannot use 4 cards just for brainstorm. thats not a smart move.

[bracer028]

question: does this phrase "If the player discards a card this way, he or she draws a card."

does this create a loop effect, because that player will draw a card now. so once that player draws, he must discard again. then, if he discards this way, he draws again, so then they have to discard again.

am i correct?

[Koby]

Chains replaces the 2nd+ card drawn with a "Discard, then draw" If you don't have cards to discard, it instead reads "mill 1"

[bracer028]

Chains replaces the 2nd+ card drawn with a "Discard, then draw" If you don't have cards to discard, it instead reads "mill 1"

i understand that.

i'm talking about the next phrase. If the player discards a card this way, he or she draws a card.

so does it end up like a loop.

[Sims]

The wording there is very poor, but no, it doesn't create a loop.

I've drawn 1 card during my draw step, then cast brainstorm. Brainstorm, essentially, now reads

"Discard a card, then draw a card. Discard a card, then draw a card. Discard a card, then draw a card. Put 2 cards from your hand back ontop of your library."

The best way to think of it is that every instance of "draw a card" past your first card in your draw step, is replaced with "Discard a card, Draw a card," assuming they still have a hand that is.

They don't loop. It just adds an additional action.

[bracer028]

The wording there is very poor, but no, it doesn't create a loop.

I've drawn 1 card during my draw step, then cast brainstorm. Brainstorm, essentially, now reads

"Discard a card, then draw a card. Discard a card, then draw a card. Discard a card, then draw a card. Put 2 cards from your hand back ontop of your library."

The best way to think of it is that every instance of "draw a card" past your first card in your draw step, is replaced with "Discard a card, Draw a card," assuming they still have a hand that is.

They don't loop. It just adds an additional action.

then it actually creates a very good filtering system for black decks, if u run like bob.

[Avatar of Light]

then it actually creates a very good filtering system for black decks, if u run like bob.

Except Bob doesn't "draw" you a card. It simply puts it into your hand.


At the beginning of your upkeep, reveal the top card of your library and put that card into your hand. You lose life equal to its converted mana cost.

[bracer028]

Except Bob doesn't "draw" you a card. It simply puts it into your hand.

oo sweet.

i should get a playset of these to hose blue for a while. its better than choke.

[troopatroop]

oo sweet.

i should get a playset of these to hose blue for a while. its better than choke.

You won't, and it's not much better than Choke. Good luck coming up with the cash.

[bracer028]

You won't, and it's not much better than Choke. Good luck coming up with the cash.

its that bad huh?

[4eak]

@ bracer028

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-4eak