Clique Wars, Aura Stuff, and Soul Sculptor Weirdness

[Tacosnape]

Series of four questions:

1. I cast Standstill. My opponent responds by casting Vendilion Clique. I respond by also casting Vendilion Clique. My Clique resolves, I do the ability thing, then his Clique resolves. Legend rule eats both Cliques. Does my opponent still get his Clique ETB trigger? (I said yes.)

2. I have a Tarmogoyf in play, and I cast Show and Tell. I choose Emrakul, The Aeons Torn, and my opponent chooses Control Magic. Auras by rule don't target if put into play by any means other than casting an Aura spell, but is the Emrakul technically there when the choice of what the Control Magic enchants is made? (I said no, given that the choice is made "As" they enter the battlefield, meaning I argued that Control Magic, Emrakul, and the choice all happened at exactly the same time.)

3. My opponent has two copies of Opalescence and a Soul Sculptor (Yeah, I didn't know this card existed either) on the board. I play Wrath of God. He activates Soul Sculptor targeting one of the Opalesences. Does this prevent both of the Opalesences from dying to the Wrath of God?

4. Related, My opponent has one copy of Opalescence and a Soul Sculptor on the board. I swing with a 2/2 creature. He blocks and activates Soul Sculptor targeting itself. What, at this point, is Soul Sculptor?

[cdr]

Series of four questions:

1. I cast Standstill. My opponent responds by casting Vendilion Clique. I respond by also casting Vendilion Clique. My Clique resolves, I do the ability thing, then his Clique resolves. Legend rule eats both Cliques. Does my opponent still get his Clique ETB trigger? (I said yes.)

Triggers trigger when they trigger, but they aren't put on the stack until after SBAs being checked and before someone getting priority.

Clique ETBs, Clique triggers, SBAs are checked, Cliques die from SBA, trigger is put on stack, player gets priority.


2. I have a Tarmogoyf in play, and I cast Show and Tell. I choose Emrakul, The Aeons Torn, and my opponent chooses Control Magic. Auras by rule don't target if put into play by any means other than casting an Aura spell, but is the Emrakul technically there when the choice of what the Control Magic enchants is made? (I said no, given that the choice is made "As" they enter the battlefield, meaning I argued that Control Magic, Emrakul, and the choice all happened at exactly the same time.)

All Show and Telled permanents ETB at the same time, so Emarakul is not on the battlefield when you're choosing something to attach Control Magic to. If you chose Control Magic, you still have to pick something to attach Control Magic to if possible, or if there's nothing legal it remains in your hand.


3. My opponent has two copies of Opalescence and a Soul Sculptor (Yeah, I didn't know this card existed either) on the board. I play Wrath of God. He activates Soul Sculptor targeting one of the Opalesences. Does this prevent both of the Opalesences from dying to the Wrath of God?

The Soul Sculptored Opalescence loses all abilities, so the other Opalesence stops being a creature. The Soul Sculptored one is still a creature because of the other Opalescence.


4. Related, My opponent has one copy of Opalescence and a Soul Sculptor on the board. I swing with a 2/2 creature. He blocks and activates Soul Sculptor targeting itself. What, at this point, is Soul Sculptor?

If Soul Sculptor ever stopped being a creature, it'd be removed from combat. However, it starts being a creature from Opalesence at the same time it stops being a creature from its ability, so it's still a blocking creature (and a 3/3).

[Koby]

1. I cast Standstill. My opponent responds by casting Vendilion Clique. I respond by also casting Vendilion Clique. My Clique resolves, I do the ability thing, then his Clique resolves. Legend rule eats both Cliques. Does my opponent still get his Clique ETB trigger? (I said yes.)

Yes. Removing the source of the trigger does not remove the effect.


2. I have a Tarmogoyf in play, and I cast Show and Tell. I choose Emrakul, The Aeons Torn, and my opponent chooses Control Magic. Auras by rule don't target if put into play by any means other than casting an Aura spell, but is the Emrakul technically there when the choice of what the Control Magic enchants is made? (I said no, given that the choice is made "As" they enter the battlefield, meaning I argued that Control Magic, Emrakul, and the choice all happened at exactly the same time.)

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3. My opponent has two copies of Opalescence and a Soul Sculptor (Yeah, I didn't know this card existed either) on the board. I play Wrath of God. He activates Soul Sculptor targeting one of the Opalesences. Does this prevent both of the Opalesences from dying to the Wrath of God?

The sculpted Opalescence and Soul Sculptor will be buried. While one Opalescence reads "2WW Enchantment <no abilities> 4/4"; the other read normally, and is not animated.


4. Related, My opponent has one copy of Opalescence and a Soul Sculptor on the board. I swing with a 2/2 creature. He blocks and activates Soul Sculptor targeting itself. What, at this point, is Soul Sculptor?

Soul Sculptor will become a 3/3 with no abilities based on Opalescence's ability.

[Koby]

Tacosnape asked


2. I have a Tarmogoyf in play, and I cast Show and Tell. I choose Emrakul, The Aeons Torn, and my opponent chooses Control Magic. Auras by rule don't target if put into play by any means other than casting an Aura spell, but is the Emrakul technically there when the choice of what the Control Magic enchants is made? (I said no, given that the choice is made "As" they enter the battlefield, meaning I argued that Control Magic, Emrakul, and the choice all happened at exactly the same time.)

So the Control Magic does indeed have something to attach to. It won't be able to take the flying spaghetti monster, but it will take a Wall of Goyf.

[cdr]

Tacosnape asked



So the Control Magic does indeed have something to attach to. It won't be able to take the flying spaghetti monster, but it will take a Wall of Goyf.

You said it went to the graveyard if it didn't have something to attach to, which is why I removed that bit.

[Koby]

You said it went to the graveyard if it didn't have something to attach to, which is why I removed that bit.

Ah I see my confusion.


If an Aura is entering the battlefield and there is no legal object or player for it to enchant, the Aura remains in its current zone, unless that zone is the stack. In that case, the Aura is put into its owner's graveyard instead of entering the battlefield.