Legacy Mono Black Control

[junitor]

They said that mono black cannot win tournament, mono black cannot even win a simple legacy deck, mono black will surrender to Force of Wills. Is there no hope for mono black? Merfolk is Blue only and yet it can get into top 4, why not mono black? Anyone care to step into the dark side?

Any one have any ideas on how to improve this Deck, will really appreaciate it. tks.

Game plan:

Drop Juzam Djinn or Hypnotic Specter, then Nether Void, by the time they can play anything to stop your advancement you've either beat them with Juzam Djinn of whittled away their hand with hypnotic specter. The Mox Diamond's, Lotus Petal's, and Chrome Mox help get these cads played quickly, coupled with Dark Ritual... it's not too hard to pull off. If you manage not to get Void in your first hand, Hypnotic Specter, Hymn to Tourach and Extirpate tend to weaken you opponent very quickly and when adding Sinkhole into the equation, you slow them down even more. Maze of Ith help defend yourself since you only have 8 creatures in the deck.

Sideboard is pretty basic, Gloom to replace Void when playing white, only because it can stack with other Gloom's, where as Nether Void can only have one copy out at a time since it is a World Enchantment. Black Knight and Phyrexian Crusader help pound on white and the crusader help avoid burn decks and can infect them to death if need be. Dunerider Outlaw helps against those pesky elf decks and sudden death, like Extirpate, has Split-Second and cannot be countered, makingit great for those annoying blue legacy counterspell decks.

So, the deck works great, the only downside i've had with this deck is sometimes i empty my hand too quickly and run out of steam. This happens maybe 1 out of 5 times i play, but still, it is a weakness to the deck... any good suggestions are welcome... Sign in Blood has been a card i've been thinking about adding, but the rest of the cards all have their function... so... suggestions please, but try to think about what you're taking out and make sure it won't leave a major gap in the function of the deck.

Thinking about putting 3 x Wasteland or drain life, any advise will be great.


Artifacts
4x Lotus Petal
2x Mox Diamond

Creatures
2x Dark Confidant
4x Hypnotic Specter
4x Juzam Djinn ( Can put 4 x Phyrexian Obliterator )

Enchantments
4x Nether Void

Land
20x Swamp
4x Maze of Ith

Spells
4x Extirpate
4x Dark Ritual
4x Hymn to Tourach
4x Sinkhole

Sideboard (15 cards)
2x Dunerider Outlaw
3x Phyrexian Crusader
4x Gloom
4x Sudden Death
2x Black Knight

[Jenni]

If keeping your hand full is the biggest issue maybe try to find room for 2 more confidants to make sure you see him?

How much does the main-deck Extirpate actually do? I'm typically not a fan of having effects like that main-deck if it works then keep it, but I would recommend a duress-effect to replace it and maybe move them to the sideboard. A thoughtsieze or even a good old duress seems like it would do more damage to your opponent's plans than extirpate since extirpate can't hit a card that hasn't found it's way to the graveyard yet.

Your sideboard seems a bit, odd, to me. Sudden death usually isn't that great... 3 mana for -4/-4 isn't much of a deal, and split second doesn't seem like it would be overly relevant. Grasp of darkness would be basically equally useful for less mana, and dismember gives you stronger removal (-5/-5) for the same mana cost, and you have the option to pay life for it in an emergency.
the creatures in the side seem rather mediocre, too. I would guess they're there for the pro-colour aspect or to put a faster clock on an opponent, but crusader doesn't even speed up the clock since it's infect . So I would guess it's primarily for board control, to hold back enemy attackers? or as an alternate win con? but for the most part it seems like removal and your hand disruption should do the job that all these creatures would do anyway unless I'm missing their point completely.
The glooms I can understand if you play in a white-heavy metagame I guess, but I'm curious as to whether they give you much of an advantage over nether void even in the matchups it would matter in.

[baghdadbob]

Perish in the s/b????

[_erbs_]

Hello,
For more infos or reference see > http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/showthread.php?16885-Deck-The-Gate/page72

Try running this list:

Lands [20]
15 Swamp
1 volrath's stronghold
4 Wasteland

Creatures [16]
1 bone shredder
3 phyrexian obiterator
4 Gatekeeper of Malakir
4 Vampire Nighthawk
4 Dark Confidant

Spells [24]
3 dark ritual
3 inquisition of kozilek
2 thoughtseize
2 Cabal Therapy
4 Hymn To Tourach
3 smother
1 go for the throat
1 sensei's divinning top
2 Umezawa's Jitte
3 Bitterblossom

SB [15]
3 phyrexian crusader
2 dystopia
3 engineered plague* => if your meta has lots of tribal decks if not you can cut it.
3 surgical extraction
1 extirpate
2 ratchet bomb
1 sword of light and shadow

* 3 depending on your meta if your meta is control or aggro oriented.

[junitor]

i was thinking of adding:

Word of Command----i find it very good!!!
Chains of Mephistopheles-----prevent drawing?
Korlash, Heir to Blackblade---get land fast!!!
Phyrexian Arena (or dark confidant is better?)

what do u guys think?

[metalhead]

Could try adding 2-4 vampire hexmge and 1-3 dark depths. Gives a. Md. Answer to jace, and an occasional "oops I win"

[TheInfamousBearAssassin]

What exactly makes people describe decks like this as control? It seems to indicate a fundamental misunderstanding of your own deck.

Control plays defense. Lists in this thread are hyper-aggressive with random out of place elements like Nether Void and Maze of Ith.

[hyperchord24]

I'm so sick of people putting things like tombstalker, gatekeeper of malakir and vampire nighthawk in mono black control. That is NOT control. Hell, people put that shit in Pox of all things. If you like turning creatures sideways, play a different deck. If you think pox and consume spirit are too slow, play a different deck. If you like stopping other people from playing things, play control. Play Innocent Blood, not Gatekeeper. Play Hymn to Turach, not Nighthawk. Sorry to flip out, but here and on salvation, people always call this stuff control and by way of suggestion, want to put aggressive creatures in a pure control list.

[DuewiNixj03]

the list just looks like an old school mono black aggro deck i'm sorry for this but your list is just bad man, people can't understand your concept and what hyperchord24 said is true. this list isn't a mono black control deck i already saw your post in salvations and maybe you should think about it all the suggestions given to you here and in salvations the list is just horrible man just try to reconsider all the suggestions to you and maybe you can land on a proper Mono black list whether control or aggro. i hope this helps