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bakelse
08-18-2011, 10:35 AM
Maindeck:
4 Force of Will
4 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
3 Karn Liberated
2 Thopter Foundry
1 Sword of the Meek
4 Enlightened Tutor
4 Swords to Plowshares
3 Counterspell
1 Moat
1 The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
1 Engineered Explosives
1 Pithing Needle
1 Crucible of Worlds
3 Brainstorm
3 Sensei's Divining Top
2 Counterbalance
1 Oblivion Ring
2 Tundra
1 Watery Grave
1 Godless Shrine
4 Flooded Strand
3 Polluted Delta
1 Academy Ruins
1 Tolaria West
3 Plains
4 Island
1 Seat of the Synod

Sideboard:
1 Relic of Progenitus
1 The Abyss
1 Pithing Needle
1 Engineered Explosives
1 Tormod's Crypt
1 Ethersworn Canonist
1 Wheel of Sun and Moon
4 Disenchant
1 Back to Basics
1 Circle of Protection: Red
1 Aura of Silence
1 Bojuka Bog

I'm getting back into magic and more importantly Legacy. The plan is to play something like this.
I would very much like to get some feedback on it.

Most cards should be pretty much self explanatory.


The strategy is more or less to lock down the opponent and win the game either with Jace, Karn or Thoptersword.
The local meta is very heavy on the Aggro (like most seems to be) why I run both Moat and Tabernacle maindeck in addition to the spot removals.
Why I don't run 4 Brainstorms is because I feel like I run enough library manipulation and that a 4th Jace is better than a 4th Brainstorm.
I've been thinking about cutting one Karn for something like a Bitterblossom or a Batterskull.

There's also a list of cards that I would like to be able to fit in.
4 Mental Misstep
1 Humility
1 Ensnaring Bridge
1 Bitterblossom
1 Batterskull

Any ideas?

Draener
08-18-2011, 03:49 PM
This deck is FAR too top heavy. Cut the Karn's. Period. You will never get to seven mana unless you could have won with any other card 2 turns earlier. I'll assume the mana is budget, so I won't suggest adding more duals, however 1 of the plains should be cut for a island. You don't need white super early. I would also cut one of the counterbalance. With this, you can add 3 mental mistep.

As for your sideboard, it definately needs alot of work. Cut the abyss and 2 disenchants for 3 path to exile. Then cut COP:Red for an ensnaring bridge.

These would be my changes, but I think you are probably better off playing a stoneforge mystic build.

bakelse
08-19-2011, 02:29 AM
What do you mean by top heavy? That I'm dependent of the top card of the library? Isn't pretty much every deck outside of vintage top heavy in that case?

Would I really fit a Moat, a Tabernacle and an Abyss into the deck if was a budget deck? It's just because I had the shocklands at home, thus I couldn't really be bothered to buy new duals, at least not this month. Also I generally prefer not to run too many duals, to be more resilient to Wastelands. The casting costs are still not mana intensive enough to not cope with 1 dual and the rest relying on basics.

I a single counterbalance really enough? Wouldn't it be more sensible to go down to 2 tops in that case to fit one of the 3 Mental Missteps.

The disenchants are mostly for the Stoneblade and the rare Stax and Enchantress matchup. For what batchup would I need the Path to Exiles? Cutting the COP for a bridge sounds very sensible.

Draener
08-19-2011, 09:20 AM
By top heavy, I mean that the average Converted mana Cost is too high. You would want the paths for match ups like zoo and merfolk in particular. Also, alot of homebrews just die to a bunch of spot removal. The only changes to the mana base I would make would be swapping the rav duals for real duals, and I do believe that makes it budget... because you're using strictly worse versions of lands because you don't want to buy the new ones yet... which is why I didn't comment on it.

Piceli89
08-19-2011, 09:39 AM
An add-here-and-cut-there 2 minutes creation:

3 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
2 Thopter Foundry
1 Sword of the Meek
2 Enlightened Tutor

4 Force of Will
3 Counterspell
3 Counterbalance
4 Mental Misstep

4 Swords to Plowshares
1 Moat
1 Engineered Explosives
1 Ensnaring Bridge
1 Crucible of Worlds
1 Oblivion Ring

4 Brainstorm
3 Sensei's Divining Top

4 Tundra
2 USea
4 Flooded Strand
4 Polluted Delta
1 Academy Ruins
1 Karakas
1 Plains
4 Island
1 Seat of the Synod


First draft of a competitive Legacy decklist. Curve is a bit fucked up for CB, but this may be a good start.