Ondu Cleric + Ghostway

[Gui]

Ok, this is how the doubt appeared:

I got 3 Ondu Cleric, and cast a Gostway.

Ondu Cleric 1w
Creature - Kor Cleric Ally
Whenever Ondu Cleric or another Ally enters the battlefield under your control, you may gain life equal to the number of Allies you control.
1/1

Ghostway 2w
Instant
Exile each creature you control. Return those cards to the battlefield under their owner's control at the beginning of the next end step.

The initial doubt was how much life I would gain. Could someone detail the steps and how the triggers chain?

Thanks

[Gui]

Thanks Julian23,

Could you point me to the Comprehensive rule that tells me what to do when multiple permanents EtB at the same time? I think this is where I failed xD

[Nidd]

From what I know, Ghostway returns the creatures to play simultanously, resulting in you getting 3 triggers from each Cleric, netting you 27 life.

[cdr]

When an effect says something like "Return those cards to the battlefield", the permanents are returning simultaneously. Those permanents will 'see' each other entering the battlefield.

In this case, each Cleric will trigger three times since there's three Clerics.

[Gui]

When an effect says something like "Return those cards to the battlefield", the permanents are returning simultaneously. Those permanents will 'see' each other entering the battlefield.

In this case, each Cleric will trigger three times since there's three Clerics.

I'm finding this really hard to find in the comprehensive rules, could you point me to where it says what to do when multiple permanents EtB at the same time, and why they see each other EtBing at the same time?

[Ahab]

I can't give you the comprehensive rules entry, but another example (from standard):
Let's say you control a Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle, 4 Mountains and a Primeval Titan.
Now if you attack with the Titan and fetch 2 additional Mountains, they see each other and Valakut triggers 2 times. The same thing happens when you control 5 mountains and fetch Valakut + Mountain.
Also, Shapeshift fetching Valakut + Mountains is a nice combo.

[cdr]

Sure, it's right under "Handling Triggered Abilities" (and the ETB rule is also easier to read than the LTB rule since it's not an exception).

603.6a. Enters-the-battlefield abilities trigger when a permanent enters the battlefield. These are written, "When [this object] enters the battlefield, . . . " or "Whenever a [type] enters the battlefield, . . ." Each time an event puts one or more permanents onto the battlefield, all permanents on the battlefield (including the newcomers) are checked for any enters-the-battlefield triggers that match the event.

Every atomic part of the resolution of a spell or ability is an event. Every time an event occurs, objects that exist immediately after the event are checked for triggers (except for looking-back-in-time triggers like LTB).

The "return those cards" event put three Clerics onto the battlefield, and each of those Clerics that now exist has a trigger that triggers on an ally ETBing, so you get each of the three Clerics triggering three times.

[Gui]

Thanks cdr! That settles it. ^^