Liliana Rock

[Guy I Don't Know]

I have been brewing Liliana of the Veil and this is how far I got:

4 Smallpox
4 Raven’s Crime
4 Life from the Loam
4 Mox Diamond
4 Dismember
4 Liliana of the Veil
2 Sylvan Library
8 ???

3 Maze of Ith
4 Wasteland
3 Mishra’s Factory
4 Bayou
4 Verdant Catacomb
4 Swamp
4 Urborg


The Strengths:
1. Dodges Mental Misstep
2. Life from the Loam Engine is great late-game, especially with Raven's Crime
3. Liliana of the Veil has many good targets that are good by themselves. Raven's Crime, and Life from the Loam both don't mind going to the graveyard.
4. Has 8 answers to Progenitus/Emrakul

Weaknesses:
1. No answer to Jace, the Mindsculptor
2. No win condition

I would like some help on what you think the best win conditions are. I was thinking Intuition Demigod of Revenge might be good. Also I was thinking of Spellweaver Helix or Worm Harverst. What do you think? Hymn of Tourach or Sinkhole may fit in there as well.
3.

[Koby]

100% think that Hymn to Tourach should b in the maindeck.

I really dislike Dismember in this list, along with copies of Raven's Crime #3-4. A combination of Smother and Thoughtseize ought to be able to handle more situations, along with some sort of recurring creature threat, like Bloodghast.

In this type of deck, The Rack is highly effective, but suffers from doing nothing most of the time. Tombstalker is a good idea too, as you're able to fill up the yard with useless cards.

Worm Harvest is a good call, but how often will you get both 5 lands and a land in hand to retrace?

[from Cairo]

Entomb could work well as a tutor effect for: Loam, Raven's Crime, potentially Worm Harvest. You could work Shriekmaw/Fleshbag Merauder with Volrath's Stronghold. You could explore Crucible of Worlds and Exploration too since they're on color. If you work in more utility and are using Loam anyway, Crop Rotation could be an option.

[Guy I Don't Know]

4 Mox Diamond
4 Thoughtseize
4 Life from the Loam
4 Hymn of Tourach
4 Smallpox
4 Bloodghast
4 Liliana of the Veil
1 Nether Spirit
4 Pernicious Deed
1 Buried Alive

4 Maze of Ith
4 Wasteland
2 Barren Moor
4 Bayou
4 Verdant Catacomb
4 Swamp
4 Urborg

I was thinking about your feedback and this is what I have so far, It is looking more and more like pox :) I don't think this deck is very good....

[catmint]

4 Ravens crime is not correct I think. LIliana provides constant discard anyway. I am thinkin either 0 or 1 ravens crime

3 pernicious deed
2 mox diamond
3 dismember
4 Hymn
3 Thoughtseize

wincon maybe 3 bloodghast altough weak overall
1 Worm harvest

other options MM for early game support.

[Leto]

Lands
3 Scrubland
4 Wasteland
4 Marsh Flats
4 Verdant Catacombs
3 Bayou
3 Mishra's Factory
1 Swamp
1 Forest

Planeswalker
3 Liliana of the Veil
1 Elspeth, Knight-Errant
1 Garruk Wildspeaker

Removal
4 Innocent Blood
3 Go for the Throat
2 Vindicate
2 Damnation

Support
4 Life from the Loam
3 Phyrexian Arena
3 Bitterblossom
2 Senseis Divining Top

Discard
4 Thoughtseize
1 Ravens Crime
4 Hymn to Tourach


this is what i brewed up, after the Lili-Spoiler. Deck focusses mainly on Boardcontrol and Disruption. Finishers are Garruk (maybe the new one, he wasn't spoiled as I made the List), BB and the Mishras