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Nonex
10-26-2011, 07:40 PM
I can't find the part in the Comprehensive Rules that would explain it.

My opponent controls Kira, Great Glass-Spinner and I control both Lightning Rift and Astral Slide. I cycle something and put both triggers on the stack, first Slide and then Rift, both targetting Kira. My plan is to kill it with Rift.

Theoretically, Kira should trigger only for Slide because I put it first onto the stack, but simultaneous triggers enter the stack at the same time, so I don't know what Kira actually sees. Does it counter Rift too?

Koby
10-26-2011, 07:51 PM
I can't find the part in the Comprehensive Rules that would explain it.

My opponent controls Kira, Great Glass-Spinner and I control both Lightning Rift and Astral Slide. I cycle something and put both triggers on the stack, first Slide and then Rift, both targetting Kira. My plan is to kill it with Rift.

Theoretically, Kira should trigger only for Slide because I put it first onto the stack, but simultaneous triggers enter the stack at the same time, so I don't know what Kira actually sees. Does it counter Rift too?

Triggers may become generated at the same time, but the player who controls the abilities may chose to stack them in whichever order.

If the intent is to kill Kira, then you would want to target Kira first with Astral Slide's ability, then with Lightning Rift to deal 2 damage. Once you have stacked your triggers, a 3rd trigger would go on the stack from Kira to counter the first "targetting", which in this case would be Astral Slide. The stack would look as such now:

1. Astral Slide's Blink
2. Lightning Rift's Shock
3. Kira's counter "Astral Slide's Blink"

The stack could now begin to resolve last item first.

Malchar
10-26-2011, 09:17 PM
Here you go:


603.3b If multiple abilities have triggered since the last time a player received priority, each player, in APNAP order, puts triggered abilities he or she controls on the stack in any order he or she chooses. (See rule 101.4.) Then the game once again checks for and resolves state-based actions until none are performed, then abilities that triggered during this process go on the stack. This process repeats until no new state-based actions are performed and no abilities trigger. Then the appropriate player gets priority.

Just check the comprehensive rules found here http://www.wizards.com/Magic/TCG/Article.aspx?x=magic/rules