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Amon Amarth
12-20-2011, 08:17 AM
I haven't posted a decklist in a long time and I figured I'd throw this out there for everyone to see. I've been playing around with this deck for awhile, but I don't think it's quite finished yet.

I should explain how I got here. Well, Psychatog was the first competitive deck I played. Like most other players who ever beat down with Tog I became obsessed. I wanted to make a Combo/Control hybrid similar to the old vintage Hulk lists. The card I miss the most is Mystical Tutor so I could get Berserk reliably but I think I may have found a way around that. Anyways, here's my pile.

SCT

Creatures-11
4 Snapcaster Mage
4 Tarmogoyf
3 Psychatog

Permission-11
4 Force of Will
2 Counterspell
2 Duress/IoK/TS
3 Spell Snare

Removal-4
4 Ghastly Demise

Card Selection-9
4 Brainstorm
2 Deep Analysis
2 Intuition
1 Life from the Loam

Combo-1
1 Berserk

Mana-24
4 Underground Sea
4 Tropical Island
1 Bayou
4 Misty Rainforest
4 Polluted Delta
2 Island
1 Swamp
4 Wasteland

SB:
lots of options here

The Deep Analysis is here as mostly an Intuition target. It may or may not be good. Ideally, I want another Berserk MD so I can draw it more often against aggro decks to just plow through them. I've considered MD'ing Damnation or Deed but I run quite a few creatures.

I like a robust manabase and this is even more important with SCM in the deck especially if you want to ever flashback something like Intuition.

The SB is pretty crazy and absolutely nothing is set at all. I have a huge list of cards that I would jam in there.

Thoughts, flames, etc.?

kiblast
12-20-2011, 08:38 AM
Aren't Snapcaster and Psychatog a bit anti-synergistic?

kusumoto
12-20-2011, 09:14 AM
This deck would be better without Tog.
He's antisynergystic with both of your other creatures and really just isn't good anymore.

Also, Delver of Secrets

catmint
12-20-2011, 12:28 PM
Delver of Secrets has no synergy with a combo/control hybrid.

A combo finish in a control deck is nice, however I don't think this one is competitive.
Not sure if it is worth putting a combo in a control deck weakening the control shell. Especially if there is such a powerful 4 mana spell like Jace... The best combo for an aggro control deck so far was NO, but that's not the best running in a meta full of tempo decks.

Might want to check out the BUG control thread...

Iron Buddha
12-20-2011, 01:45 PM
Why aren't you running FoF? I mean you have Psychatog and SCM.

edgarps22
12-21-2011, 08:04 PM
I would argue that Snapcaster and Psychatog are not anti-synergistic. Sure you want cards in the yard, but it is not necessary, I used to run him alongside Grim Lavamancer because it shored up the Merfolk and Goblins matchup. I ran a list back when Survival was romping around, and could basically ignore them because Tog does bring the heat just as fast. If you are flashing back more draw spells etc, and Loaming up lands to fill your hand, you really don't need a lot in the yard at any time to just win with him. I used Golgari Grave-Troll and Stinkweed Imp (2-2 split) to fuel my list as it dredged up a serious amount of cards in a hurry, something you could consider. They certainly made brainstorm silly, discard a few of them, then drop brainstorm, dredge away all right after your opponent declares no block, its priceless. Just some ideas to try out though, not sure what you would take out

troopatroop
12-21-2011, 08:59 PM
Aren't Snapcaster and Psychatog a bit anti-synergistic?

Why are people so close minded and bad? Yeah, cuz Snapcaster can't flashback Berzerk, and 1 card in the yard is make or break. Why even comment if all you're going to deliver is a single line of drivel? Honestly, such a thoughtless post. The disynergy is hardly relevant. Think before you post people.

Amon Amarth
12-21-2011, 11:22 PM
To address some points:

As has been already pointed out Goyf/SCM have disynergy with Tog the way Goyf has disynergy Lavamancer i.e in no appreciable way.

Delver is bad in a more dedicated control shell.

FoF is OK. It's pretty slow and the only spots it could probably take are the 2 DA spots. DA isn't set in stone but it does have decent synergy with Intuition. FoF is really slow and isn't where I want to be against Stifles, Dazes, Spell Pierce, etc. We'll see.

Like Troopatroop mentioned the main plain is to cast Berserk with a pumped Tog or Zerk+Flashbacked Zerk on a Tog. Berserk is great against anything that's not dedicated control decks. Berserk also helps minimize the effect of GY hate on you since you won't need to have an enormous GY to kill people. The Dredge cards, Loam and Darkblast also do quite a bit of work here too.

Zilla
12-22-2011, 02:58 AM
Isn't Accumulated Knowledge a better Intuition target here than Deep Anal? Particularly in light of the fact that AK makes a juicy Snapcaster target? It would take at least one more slot, but it seems worth considering.

Amon Amarth
12-22-2011, 05:41 PM
Yeah, I was thinking about that but I don't know what to cut. Maybe the 3rd Spell Snare or maybe even a Tog. I think I might just run 61 cards instead.

Koby
12-22-2011, 06:22 PM
Flashbacking AK might be super fun and for value, I like this idea immensely.

Mr. Safety
12-23-2011, 07:53 AM
Aren't Snapcaster and Psychatog a bit anti-synergistic?

You mean like Tarmogoyf and Grim Lavamancer in the same deck, or Tarmogoyf and Tombstalker in the same deck? It's not that crazy...he can target the cards removed from his graveyard.

I think a single copy of Deep Analysis should be swapped out with Raven's Crime. With Intuition and 24 lands it could be a powerful way to rape your opponent's hand.

Mr. Safety
12-23-2011, 07:55 AM
Isn't Accumulated Knowledge a better Intuition target here than Deep Anal? Particularly in light of the fact that AK makes a juicy Snapcaster target? It would take at least one more slut, but it seems worth considering.

I can't help but do this...you can't have thought someone would miss the opportunity? I changed the 'o' to a 'u' in the last sentence just for giggles...as you are a mod, I think this will be deleted very soon after reading. Just tell me if you laughed or not...

leegoo
12-23-2011, 03:08 PM
Flashbacking AK might be super fun and for value, I like this idea immensely.

I really want a deck with AK/Snapcaster/Intuition to work... seems awesome.

boneclub24
12-23-2011, 03:25 PM
I really want a deck with AK/Snapcaster/Intuition to work... seems awesome.

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