PunishingBalance - RUB Control

[Einherjer]

Hi guys Ive been working on a new fun control build.

Its goal is having a good MU vs Maverick, Stoneblade and Canadian, and it should be ok fighting the Combo-Decks...


Lands
4 Polluted Delta
4 Scalding Tarn
3 Bloodstained Mire
3 Underground Sea
2 Volcanic Island
3 Island
1 Swamp
3 Grove of the Burnwillows
//23

Creatures
4 Dark Confidant
3 Vendilion Clique
//7

Lock
4 Counterbalance
4 Senseis Divining Top
//8

Removal
3 Punishing Fire
2 Dismember
1 Go for the Troat
1 Ghastly Demise
//7

Counter
4 Force of Will
3 Spell Snare
1 Spell Pierce
1 Counterspell
//9

//Cantrips
4 Brainstorm

//Planeswalker
2 Jace, the Mind Sculptor

CC 0: 23
CC 1: 13
CC 2: 13
CC 3:5
CC 4:2
CC 5:4

I am not so experienced with CB-builds but I realise that the curve is not good... How to improve it? Thanks for all your inputs :)

Greetings

[trivial_matters]

I feel that Counterbalance/Top and Punishing Fire/Grove don't play so well together because both require so much mana and hence it would be better to just commit to one or the other.

[Ajsmirnov]

Hi Philipp

When I was playing smth like that for fun, it was kind of a Countertop Infect deck. Crusaders were great because of protection from almost all the remouval in format.

My list:

4 Underground Sea
2 Volcanic Island
1 Badlands
3 Grove of the Burnwillows
1 Sunken Ruins
4 Polluted Delta
2 Scalding Tarn
2 Bloodstained Mire
1 Island
1 Swamp
1 Mountain

4 Phyrexian Crusader
3 Snapcaster Mage

3 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
2 Liliana of the Veil

4 Force of Will
4 Spell Snare
4 Brainstorm
4 Sensei's Divining Top
4 Counterbalance
2 Go for the Throat
4 Punishing Fire
1 Unearth

[troopatroop]

I hope you're joking. Counterbalance + Phyrexian Crusader + Grove of the Burnwillows? Doesn't sound good right?

[wolfstorm]

I tried making something like this before and what ended up working best for me was a spin off of Gabriel Nassif's Supreme Balance from GP Chicago 09, changing out the black for red, and removing a lot of the critters (Sower/Trygon/Confidant) for Jace and the Punishing fire engine.. Its not RUB and I wasn't ever able to fine tune it but it sounds similar to what you were shooting for.

Lands
1x Flooded Strand
4x Grove of the burnwillows
2x island
4x Misty Rainforest
1x Scalding Tarn
3x Tropical Island
3x Tundra
3x Volcanic Island

Critters
4x Tarmogoyf

Instants
4x Brainstorm
3x Daze
4x Force of Will
4x Punishing Fire
4x Swords to Plowshares

Artifacts
4x Sensei's Divining Top
2x Vedalken Shackles

Enchantments
4x Counterbalance

Planeswalkers
3x JTMS

Sorcery
2x Ponder

[Beatusnox]

Hi guys Ive been working on a new fun control build.

Its goal is having a good MU vs Maverick, Stoneblade and Canadian, and it should be ok fighting the Combo-Decks...


Lands
4 Polluted Delta
4 Scalding Tarn
3 Bloodstained Mire
3 Underground Sea
2 Volcanic Island
3 Island
1 Swamp
3 Grove of the Burnwillows
//23

Creatures
4 Delver of Secrets
3 Vendilion Clique
//7

Lock
4 Counterbalance
4 Senseis Divining Top
//8

Removal
3 Punishing Fire
2 Dismember
2 Vedalken Shackles
//7

Counter
4 Force of Will
3 Spell Snare
2 Daze
//9

//Cantrips
4 Brainstorm

//Planeswalker
2 Jace, the Mind Sculptor

CC 0: 23
CC 1: 13
CC 2: 12
CC 3:7
CC 4:2
CC 5:4


Changes I would make are in Bold, I am unsure if that would work better for you, but its how I would have run it.

Instead of conditional kill spells, all of your lands outside of 1 swamp and 3 groves are Islands, Shackles should work well. Daze helps the curve and is a free counterspell which helps against combo. I Disliked Bob here, you can continue if you want, but as for personal preference, I would use delver.

[Einherjer]

Ye I think Counterbalance and RUB is not playable like this..Ill open a new thread with my new idea... Im sorry.


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