Boring Legacy-Decks

[birds of paradise2]

Which decks do you think is boring? What decks would you not recommend anyone to build?

I really dislike hightide, since it's not a very interactive deck to play. I also find SFM decks with batterskull quite boring (but powerfull though) to play.

[Awaclus]

I believe there is no such thing as a boring deck. Also, I wouldn't recommend not building any deck just because it's boring.

[TsumiBand]

Tight Sight

[mcfarland]

When it comes to a competitive environment, nothing is really boring to me. Even if a deck is highly non-interactive or creates a tedious game-state, I still feel like the competitive nature of what it's accomplishing makes it interesting.

When it comes to "boring" deck choices in general, realize that everyone enjoys the game for different reasons. You might find it boring to sit back and watch me meticulously calculate topdeck percentages and count hypothetical storm, and I might yawn at the fact that each turn you're just turning Nacatls and Goyfs sideways.

[TheArchitect]

Belcher isn't really fun to play with or against. Its totally non-interactive and basically autoloses to FoW while autowinning to anything non-blue.

Thats the only deck I really think is boring. Decks like Hightide or TES, are usually pretty interactive and I think are actually really fun to play.

Fish I find really boring too the only redeeming quality it had was that I have a soft spot for tribal stuff.

[Vacrix]

Boring is so vague. Belcher is actually pretty exciting if you like gambling.

Stasis is the definition of boring. When you are winning with Chronatog, there is a pretty good chance you win simply because your opponent tried to strangle you... as you slowly make your way to turns during the game 1.

Then there is Solidarity where you win because your opponent takes a nap while you are going off.

If you want an exciting deck, play Spanish Inquisition. No deck gives you a rush like that one. D4 into oblivion into Slithermuse, into Past in Flames. What more could you ask for?

In general, Goblins is a trip to play. Try playing aggro. You only mentioned combo and control.

[sco0ter]

Most boring decks to play AGAINST:

Dredge, Stasis, High Tide, Belcher, any fast non-interactive combo actually

[Koby]

Burn.

Nug, nug, nug, nug, nug, nug, nug. Do I win?

[betterthenandrew]

Belcher isn't really fun to play with or against. Its totally non-interactive and basically autoloses to FoW while autowinning to anything non-blue..

I'm 2-0-1 with 43 lands against belcher in sanctioned matches. (The Draw was a 30 minute round, and he was slaver locked and dead on board to my Bob, but wouldn't concede. The shop says 45 minute rounds, but they start the clock when they print, then have to post, then you have to find your seat, etc. It was don to 30 by the time we were shuffling). Either way Belcher is sweet, mostly just because there is a deck that breaks one of the fundamental rules of magic- You don't need lands to win. Any of the decks that do weird shit are awesome and help separate the eternal formats from type 2 and limited (ex. Dredge doesn't need to cast spells, 43 lands is, well, basically all lands, Belcher doesn't need lands).

The most boring deck among the mainstream decks is, by far, Maverick. Play some guys, attack, play some equipment, hope the opponent isn't doing anything unfair, play some funny lands, etc. My local meta got super inbred with basically everyone playing Maverick decks tuned to beat Maverick a few months ago (but no one figured out Grove of the Burnwillows, lol). It was miserable.

[Piceli89]

Aggro Loam. Dredge, cycle, loam, dredge, cycle, loam, dredge, cycle, loam.
"Such a motherfucking bore."

[death]

I'm just surprised no one has mentioned Stax, Counter-Top, Lands.

[Greenpoe]

Reanimator. Boring to play. Why not play real combo and actually do something interesting? It's just turn 1 Entomb, turn 2 "Do I win?" Not too bad playing against it, since it's over pretty quickly at least.

[joemauer]

43 Lands mirror match.

[Octopusman]

I used to play stasis and the only boring deck I feel exists to play against is anything with sensei's divining top.

[cuthbertthecat]

Maverick. Turning green and white idiots from alara block sideways? Yawn.

[TkDodo]

I would not consider decks which actually have complex decision trees as boring to play.
Maverick is actually a quite powerfull deck and has a lot of different ways to attack you, its not like Zoo which just has dudes and burn, or even worse, burn, which just has burn (and maybe some dudes). No offense to any burn players, but this is the deck I consider the most boring to play.

[RJM]

I think the real (and slightly obvious) lesson of discussions like these, is that clearly there is no universal answer. Everything likes or dislikes virtually every possible archetype you can come up with.

Yeah, there are definitely decks that are a drag for me to personally play again, or that I'd be bored as crap ever building or piloting myself...

But I don't think there's any deck in the game that I can't at least respect; and also respect my opponent for enjoying playing it.

[Sloshthedark]

least fun
- Burn (not close, I won't touch that without gloves)
- Spiral tide... just not fun
- Belcher, maybe

I won't play UW stoneforge, UR crap, Zoo and Elves


most fun
- Lands (most beautiful deck ever)
- Bx Storm
- Survival based (now bad decks alike - Pod or Shaman)

I enjoyed tempo decks UBx especially, to Dredge is sometimes relaxing, maybe I'd think about Maverick if it was a niche deck like it used to be

[maurobad2k4]

Enchantress and Lands are the winners here.

[ScatmanX]

The ones I most dislike is Burn. The rest I don' really mind.

[kusumoto]

A lot of these decks like combo, Stax, Enchantress, and countertop are no fun to play against but tons of fun to pilot.

I mean who likes playing against Stax really? Now does having trinisphere, smokestack, and crucible out against an opponent that has one land sound fun at all? I think so.

[Zunam]

Reading this thread one could think every deck is boring because almost every "important" deck has been mentioned. So why play Legacy at all? Every tournament must be a major pain.
Speaking for me: I have lots of fun at Legacy because otherwise I would have stopped playing obviously. Of course there happens to be one or another boring situation from time to time but in general I couldn't say that I would be bored playing against any specific deck.
But maybe I just don't understand the purpose of the thread.

[Basara]

High tide: Brainstorm, brainstorm,ponder,preordain, mmmm go
Maverick and uwblade are boring , because all the people are playing the deck , is just boring to watch the same cards again and again.. also mom is just painful to play against..
Most fun:
Spanish inquisition and dredge (if you are the pilot):cool:

[death]

High Tide against any non-blue deck is boring for some, but I find High Tide going against Force of Will + tons of counter stuff as pretty exciting to watch, because the deck needs to beat all odds in order to win (find business and fight through a counter wall simultaneously)

[TheArchitect]

Either way Belcher is sweet, mostly just because there is a deck that breaks one of the fundamental rules of magic- You don't need lands to win. Any of the decks that do weird shit are awesome and help separate the eternal formats from type 2 and limited (ex. Dredge doesn't need to cast spells, 43 lands is, well, basically all lands, Belcher doesn't need lands).

Oh I agree, I love decks that break the rules like that. Dredge is one of my favorite decks infact. But belcher just is not much fun to play with or against. Really interestingly designed, but boring to play.

[Dark Ritual]

Enchantress, burn, dredge, reanimator, counterbalance, 43 lands, belcher, and stasis. Any combo deck when you're playing a fair deck is boring to play against since you're very likely going to lose. Reanimator is just annoying, since entomb is basically demonic tutor for a black at instant speed/ridiculously overpowered and it's never really close between reanimator and deck X, either reanimator just straight wins or it crashes and burns. Burn is awful, they just go suspend rift bolt, lava spike, go play some more burn spells and hope you overextend into this price of progress I'm holding because it will nug the fuck out of you for 6+ if you aren't careful.

Sure belcher violates the play lands rule, but it doesn't violate the no mana rule like dredge. Dredge is the most violating deck rules wise in the history of the game, because it doesn't actually require mana to win you can just DDD a bunch and kill the opponent without casting anything in hand the entire game and only cards from your graveyard.

[Oiolosse]

When it comes to a competitive environment, nothing is really boring to me. Even if a deck is highly non-interactive or creates a tedious game-state, I still feel like the competitive nature of what it's accomplishing makes it interesting...

Well put, I too enjoy the game in the abstract.

[HokusSchmokus]

I really dislike Maverick and UW blade. Such lame decks imo.

On the other hand, I find it quite interesting to play against any combo deck. Also, Spiral Tide has always been highly interactive for me, even with dredge.

By the way, anyone who thinks you cannot interact with dredge is dead wrong and that is probably the reason why ppl lose to it and then hate:P

[aljiichiban]

For me, the most boring are:

Stax variants
Enchantress
Stasis
Landstill(sometimes)
43 lands

They cause long games and mostly go out of time during tournaments.

[csy]

Boring pilots with any deck.

[KindGrind]

Lands, Maverick and Enchantress are all very exciting to pilot, with Maverick being the most interactive of the mix.

Burn and Dredge are pretty boring to play.

[Admiral_Arzar]

Current decks:

U/W Stoneblade
RUG
Maverick

These decks are all boring as shit to play, play against, and watch. This is one of the main reasons why I am taking an extended break from MTG. Other historical decks that I find extremely boring are Landstill, Counter-top, and Merfolk. I don't find combo boring at all because complex decision trees interest me (both playing and playing against combo is generally interesting for me unless it's the derpy kind i.e. Show and Tell or ReAnimator).

[jrw1985]

I'll say I don't find any decks boring to play against, but High Tide decks really take too long on the turn they go off. Even in the hands of an experienced pilot they still need like 10 minutes of set-up before they have the kill locked up. And you need to wait of them to play it out, cause there's always the chance they'll fizzle.

[Fuzzy]

Enchantress and Lands are the winners here.

Team Italia is lame.

[bowvamp]

Well, I think most who argue about "interaction" making decks boring haven't looked at the prime boring deck of the format: Blade.
Sure it's interactive, but this deck is looking more and more like the new thresh. I mean seriously, what is interesting about it? At least maverick is cool because it tries to lock the game up using mother of runes/hatebears and has the always-crazy kotr to just wreck with. Aggro Loam boring? Really? ...
Also to all those who have said "oh, the answers aren't consistent, which means there aren't boring decks in legacy" I'm guessing a lot of these answers are due to the fact that the decks that the poster plays either loses or draws a lot to the decks mentioned.

[Richard Cheese]

Against:
High Tide (interesting to watch, but again, just takes so long)
UW Stoneblade
Stax
Lands
MUC

With:
UW Stoneblade
Stax
Lands

Clearly I'm not a fan of prison decks. I like the concept, but in actual play I hate that gap between early establishment of lock pieces and actually winning. UW I just hate because every hand feels so completely mediocre, but the combination of infinite removal and card selection just gets there anyway.

Personally I'm a big fan of combat math and tricks. Figuring out how to make a profitable situation out of an incoming onslaught or how to break through a stalled board usually does it for me. Probably the same reason I love shit like Starcraft and Advance Wars.

[RJM]

Current decks:

U/W Stoneblade
RUG
Maverick

These decks are all boring as shit to play, play against, and watch. This is one of the main reasons why I am taking an extended break from MTG. Other historical decks that I find extremely boring are Landstill, Counter-top, and Merfolk. I don't find combo boring at all because complex decision trees interest me (both playing and playing against combo is generally interesting for me unless it's the derpy kind i.e. Show and Tell or ReAnimator).

Haha, no wonder you've decided to take a break... Apparently there are all of about 2 decks that you enjoy playing with or against. The good news for you, you can probably go ahead and keep playing your TES & High Tide decks by yourself and replicate a similar experience. :P

[baghdadbob]

I have the least fun watching these...

-Burn
-Maverick
-Blade
-Ichorid
-High Tide/Hive Mind

But don't mind playing any deck i.r.l. I mostly enjoy watching combo and aggro matches and obscure tier 2 decks. Matches like Painter vs. Stacks or Rock vs. Zoo.

[Grollub]

Dredge because it isn't playing MtG.....

[Hanni]

Boring to play with? Nothing really.

Boring to play against? Any deck that is slow and grindy, and doesn't win until turn 1 million. I also dislike playing against High Tide if I'm playing a non-interactive deck, because like was mentioned, it takes like 20 minutes for the opponent to finally kill me.

[Admiral_Arzar]

Clearly I'm not a fan of prison decks. I like the concept, but in actual play I hate that gap between early establishment of lock pieces and actually winning. UW I just hate because every hand feels so completely mediocre, but the combination of infinite removal and card selection just gets there anyway.



It seems a lot of people ITT aren't fans of prison decks. I've never had an issue because I generally just scoop when it's apparent they're going to lock me out. Making a Staxxx player who has a hard lock play it out until they draw a win condition is pretty dumb IMO, and anyone who does it deserves their suffering. I have much more of an issue with slow blue decks because they don't necessarily "lock" you out, but just slowly win through grinding incremental advantage.

[Humphrey]

Enchantress and Lands are the winners here.

Basically any superslow control deck that wins after 40mins of drawing and doing kinda useless stuff

[Vacrix]

If you want a play a deck that is far from boring, I recommend TurboEldrazi. At first glance, it just looks like another, 'drop a fatty'.dec but its far more intricate than that. You almost have to play it like 43 Land and Sneak/Show at the same time. You drop Glimmerpost to put yourself out of reachspell range, drop Pithing Needle to avoid Wasteland and walkers, Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale to turn slow down your opponent, Glacial Chasm tricks with Crucible of Worlds and Exploration.. Primeval Titan is a bomb that puts you in a winning position even if you lose it to STP. I personally play Terastodon to destroy equipment, walkers, and other troublesome permanents. You can even race Burn with Glimmerposts, Titan --> Glimmerpost. This deck has been more fun to play than most other decks I've picked up.

[dahcmai]

I always found Doomsday decks boring to play. It's interesting since you have to sit over there and decide what stack you need, but if you already have a good amount of them memorized it's pretty stale stuff. It doesn't really do anything intricate, it's just a pain to know the patterns.

Hmmm, you have a Teeg, ok I need these 5, win.
Ok, you have counters, then in that case I need these 5, win.

Yawn...

[DukeDemonKn1ght]

For the life of me, I can't see why anyone who's not a complete fucking hater would play Show & Tell/ Hive Mind. But I guess taste varies.

[Fizban]

I second Belcher, but The Mighty Quinn is probably even worse supporting the ultra boring scepter/chant lock :rolleyes:

[xfxf]

I think nobody said it yet but embracing the flame I'll go ahead and say it. Dredge... I mean if you like playing Magic why would you play Dredge? It's not that I hate Dredge but I can't imagine myself playing Dredge at all and can't sympathize with people who play it. To me the psychology behind it is a mystery.

[joemauer]

I think nobody said it yet but embracing the flame I'll go ahead and say it. Dredge... I mean if you like playing Magic why would you play Dredge? It's not that I hate Dredge but I can't imagine myself playing Dredge at all and can't sympathize with people who play it. To me the psychology behind it is a mystery.

I heard that playing a dredge deck is a sign of a troubled childhood.

[xfxf]

I don't know about that but it sure looks more like Tarot than Magic :laugh:

[The Big Ragu]

I see nothing wrong with Dredge. It's an amazing, versatile deck archetype, that's both incredibly fun as well as challenging to play with/against.

My answer is Burn.

[Richard Cheese]

Dredge has never bothered me, just like other fast combo. You either don't have hate and it's over in a couple turns or you do and you have a nail biter until they either fight through it or succumb.

Either way watching Dredge and combo go off is always fairly interesting to me, plus you have that random potential incontinence factor. Any deck that can randomly poop out easy wins is prone to also just shitting its pants from time to time.

[xfxf]

I'm fine with fast combo decks. I'm fine with the Storm mechanic. I guess I just find the Dredge mechanic too much tarot-like and not interesting at all.

[DragoFireheart]

Burn is pretty boring to play against and to play as usually. I personally never get tired of throwing lightnings to someones dome though.

[SpoCk0nd0pe]

That would definately be zoo. Why? Zoo is a no brainer to pilot and the cards do not interact with each other. Maverick has GSZ for utility, Goblins have their goblin engine etc. but zoo is just trop your threats then run and burn. Most boring deck ever.

Most interesting is aggro/control vs control. I like close games with lots of thinking involved.

[Julian23]

One of the most boring matchups in general is mid-range vs. mid-range. Unless someone manages to establish a crucial advantage early on, games become very likely to drift off into a huge stalement with neither player being able to actually push through.

GW Maverick mirror "endgame", hello.

[boneclub24]

Show and Tell decks are SO boring. They derp you with the combo on an early turn, and you either have the answers or you don't. At least with storm combo and things you can pinpoint your counters to be the most effective.

[feline]

I actually find the "bizzare gameplan" decks the most fun and interesting to play and play against, I have spiral tide / dredge / belcher and im also considering stax, the mono white version. as well I'm in the process of finishing off the current version of mono black pox that doesn't really run the actual card, pox anymore, I blame liliana for that.

As far as the most boring decks, i find to be full on control or full on aggro, I have a zoo and goblin deck yet I play them the least, though I still have a soft spot for zoo since I play fast zoo, but in the current meta I would want big zoo right now. Control decks are also kinda "meh" if I want to slow the game down, I will play prison decks / resource denial strategies, its awesome to destroy lands for a few turns then drop a trinisphere.

[Vacrix]

If you want to play a deck thats fun to play, pick up Doomsday. Many an hour I have spent with that one.

[cuthbertthecat]

Show and Tell decks are SO boring. They derp you with the combo on an early turn, and you either have the answers or you don't. At least with storm combo and things you can pinpoint your counters to be the most effective.

True that. They play an average of two spells per game (turn 1 ponder that doesn't shuffle, turn 2 show and tell). That number goes up by one if they need force backup or are playing hive mind. Fun, quality magic right there.

[Vacrix]

Just wait til SnT starts playing Griselband. Drop him for R with Sneak Attack, draw 14 cards, drop Emrakul for R, swing. Can't find Emrakul. Cool. Gain 7 life upon damage, draw 7 more cards...

[sherko7]

43 Lands mirror match.

This made me laugh so hard I've been laughing for 10 minutes no joke :laugh:

[danyul]

Dayum!

[pippo84]

Most boring decks to play WITH:

Burn
Merfolk
Reanimator

Burn is always the same, draw burn, draw burn burn etc. Fish is just the same thing over and over tried playing it and sleeping would have been funnier. I also tried reanimator and it was ok, I am winning but it will however take some turns to do it while you are going to lose in some turns without having a chance.

Most boring decks to play AGAINST:

High Tide
Stacks
Stasis

Decks that don't do anything interesting are boring to paly and decks that are too slow are boring to play against!

[Mr. Froggy]

It's all a matter of perspective, I for example am a Johnny and love combo decks, and I HATE playing or playing vs control decks. I actually enjoy combo mirrors, and whatnot, and I can't stand playing control.

Playing with:
Pretty much ANY control deck is boring for me

Playing vs:
ANY control deck

[Jenni]

Personally, I love prison decks, Stasis, Enchantress, Stax, etc. are really fun decks for me, playing with them or against them. A lot of people seem to dislike this sort of deck.
Honestly, most decks aren't boring for me, but I find aggro to be the least interesting deck type to play with or against. So, Zoo, Goblins, even Merfolk (which is more aggro-control) and elves (aggro-combo) are very dull for me, on either side of the table.
Combo decks I don't mind too much. They can get old, but it's always nice to drop a turn 2 Iona, shield of emeria on the mono-red player's head.

[xfxf]

Maverick. Yeah you've got lots of little interactions none of which are interesting nor exciting. Play some spells.

[JanoschEausH]

I love prison decks and i hate stupid nobrainers like Show and Tell. So yeah... I vote for Show and Tell (Hive Mind, Sneakshow, Omni... all the same).

[Sloshthedark]

This made me laugh so hard I've been laughing for 10 minutes no joke :laugh:

If you have ever actually played it, it's not boring at all

[Vacrix]

You know what deck is actually fun to play against? Anything with GBx tends to be pretty cool. Very interactive. BUG control especially. Loam Pox is pretty cool as well.

[Fizzeler]

Personally, I love prison decks, Stasis, Enchantress, Stax, etc. are really fun decks for me, playing with them or against them. A lot of people seem to dislike this sort of deck.
Honestly, most decks aren't boring for me, but I find aggro to be the least interesting deck type to play with or against. So, Zoo, Goblins, even Merfolk (which is more aggro-control) and elves (aggro-combo) are very dull for me, on either side of the table.
Combo decks I don't mind too much. They can get old, but it's always nice to drop a turn 2 Iona, shield of emeria on the mono-red player's head.

This, I love prison decks they are extremely fun to play, the problem I have is my opponent shrugging at me for playing it and then saying "I only lost because we went to time and you won game 1" :rolleyes:

[kwis]

I personally love playing as and against decks like Dredge, TES and cousins, High Tide, and company.

I hate playing against someone who isn't able to play their deck quickly and either intentionally or unintentionally eats up the clock. The best magic is when people have no incentive to try and win on time.

[Chikenbok]

I'm quite a big fan of two things, playing BUG against BUG (attrition battles to the ends of time), and playing BUG against any Combo deck. Its always a rush sitting and waiting for your opponent to try and kill you.

Boring decks? UW..

[Jenni]

This, I love prison decks they are extremely fun to play, the problem I have is my opponent shrugging at me for playing it and then saying "I only lost because we went to time and you won game 1" :rolleyes:

huh, I almost never go to time playing prison decks. Once the game gets to the "No one plays magic from now until I win" point, the turns get very short. It's basically Upkeep costs, Draw, Do I win yet? If yes: win if no: Pass turn. The opponent's turn consisting of Draw, maybe a land, pass turn.
Even in my most time-consuming deck (the Stasis-chronatog deck I posted about in the casual deck subforum) I usually win by milling, if I can't mill them pre-boarding I scoop to save time, and post-board bring in some grave hate or jester caps to deal with emrakuls and the like.

Anyway, back at the point, Belcher has got to be the most dull deck I've ever played... I borrowed a friend's belcher deck for a few casual games I won 3 lost 4 and then stopped playing the deck, it was basically all luck though, one game I didn't even play any cards, I just showed my opponent my opening hand after I won the die roll and he said "Yeah, that'll do it."

[csy]

Fish != merfolk

[feline]

I find stuff like Sneak & Show / Reanimator type decks fairly boring to go against, if you're playing combo, do something CrAzY like Dredge or High Tide, Ant, Tes, Doomsday, etc, just casting 1 spell real fast to cheat a bomb into play is technically combo'ish, but I don't consider it, "cool" combo, so that's my vote.

In defense of high tide, it is actually quite interactive when you have to go up against a blue deck that can counter what you're trying to do, but aside from that, the other 99% of it I cannot deny, is basically just my opponent watching me goldfish and do a ridiculous amount of juggling.

[Lord Seth]

I actually like playing against decks like High Tide. I think it's really fun to watch them working on their combo and to see if they can manage it. Though if they're going extremely slowly (in terms of length of time spent thinking on each decision), then it can be kind of annoying.

What I hate playing against is decks like CounterTop. Those are boring matches because you have to keep going and playing. Even against a slow High Tide player, you can at least watch them do things, against CounterTop it's just them drawing cards until they get a win condition while you draw cards in the desperate hope you'll find something to let you win with.

And the fact I have to hear them say "I'm going to Top" (or similar phrases) over and over and over again just adds frustration onto the boredom.

[Finn]

I have to say something that is certainly not going to be appreciated by some posters in this thread. But try to take it as advice rather than a slander. I clearly recall years ago thinking and saying that such and such a deck was boring. Only looking back do I realize that I thought so because I had not learned some important parts of the game.

By complaining that a deck is boring to face you guys are wearing your inexperience and/or ineffectiveness on your chest in bold print. That is not in and of itself a sin. But you need to know that the "boring" is simply the result of facing a deck that you are ill-equipped to defeat either by lack of knowledge or preparation.

When you know how to face a deck and are prepared for it, it is never boring.

[Jenni]

I have to say something that is certainly not going to be appreciated by some posters in this thread. But try to take it as advice rather than a slander. I clearly recall years ago thinking and saying that such and such a deck was boring. Only looking back do I realize that I thought so because I had not learned some important parts of the game.

By complaining that a deck is boring to face you guys are wearing your inexperience and/or ineffectiveness on your chest in bold print. That is not in and of itself a sin. But you need to know that the "boring" is simply the result of facing a deck that you are ill-equipped to defeat either by lack of knowledge or preparation.

When you know how to face a deck and are prepared for it, it is never boring.

I disagree, some decks I can beat reliably but I still find dull to face. A lot of combo decks I love to play when they're fairly new, but after the 80th time, facing HighTide decks gets old. It's a pretty interactive game on my end, since leaving them alone to set up pretty much lets them win, but when they don't go off, they tend to not do much of anything. When they do go off, then it's the same thing (roughly) that happens every other time their deck works.
It's interesting to see how they plan to fight out of a losing position after getting Forced/Countered/extirpated/etc. but even then, they usually just stick to the plan as best they can.