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xifre
05-16-2012, 02:03 AM
Scenario: Opponent has an SFM in play. I have Aether Vial (2) in play and have an StP on hand.

My opponent draws during his draw phase. I responded by vial-ing in a Tidehollow Sculler. In response, he activates SFM and puts Batterskull in play. I responded by using StP on his SFM to prevent the Batterskull from entering into play.

He said Batterskull will still be put into play since the ability is already on the stack..

Is he right? If that's the case what should i have done to prevent the Batterskull from entering the battlefield?

Is this scenario the same when my opponent tries to use SFM to put Batterskull in play and I used StP on it to prevent such from happening?


Scenario 2: I have SFM in play. Upon activating SFM, my opponent responds by playing an StP on my SFM. Will my activation still be put on the stack and manage to put an equipment despite it being exiled by StP?

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StP on SFM
SFM Activation
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or is there a situation where your opponent may prevent you from putting into play an equipment by killing SFM but still mana is already spent?

thanks!

lordofthepit
05-16-2012, 02:13 AM
Scenario: Opponent has an SFM in play. I have Aether Vial (2) in play and have an StP on hand.

My opponent draws during his draw phase. I responded by vial-ing in a Tidehollow Sculler. In response, he activates SFM and puts Batterskull in play. I responded by using StP on his SFM to prevent the Batterskull from entering into play.

He said Batterskull will still be put into play since the ability is already on the stack..

Is he right? If that's the case what should i have done to prevent the Batterskull from entering the battlefield?

Is this scenario the same when my opponent tries to use SFM to put Batterskull in play and I used StP on it to prevent such from happening?


Scenario 2: I have SFM in play. Upon activating SFM, my opponent responds by playing an StP on my SFM. Will my activation still be put on the stack and manage to put an equipment despite it being exiled by StP?

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StP on SFM
SFM Activation
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or is there a situation where your opponent may prevent you from putting into play an equipment by killing SFM but still mana is already spent?

thanks!

Your opponent is correct.

You should have used StP on his SFM first, and if he responded with an activation, you could then activate the Vial to put in the Tidehollow Sculler.

In scenario 2, there is no way you could have timed a removal spell to prevent the equipment from getting put into play via SFM's ability.

Kich867
05-16-2012, 02:15 AM
The batterskull still enters the field, just like how if you activate vial and he destroys it in response the creature still enters play..there's no distinction.

The correct way to stop batterskull from entering play at this point is either A: Stifle the ability using Stifle or a card like it, or B: Kill off the SFM prior to it no longer having summoning sickness.

Otherwise there's no way to actually stop batterskull from entering play unless you do something he can't respond to. If you STP it he can do it in response, if you STP in response to activation it still happens anyways.

Abilities from a creature resolve regardless of whether the creature is in play.