Show and Tell & "Name a card" Cards

[Koby]

Scenario:
Opponent casts Show and Tell. My opponent chooses a card, and I choose Phyrexian Revoker.

Question:
Are both cards revealed, then enter the battlefield?
Would I be able to name the card that my opponent reveals off Show and Tell?

Summary rulings:
10/4/2004 If the cards being put onto the battlefield also require choices, those choices are made after all players choose their card. The active player makes choices for their card (if any), then the other players (if any) in turn order.
10/4/2004 Players choose cards during resolution, not announcement.
4/1/2008 The current player chooses first, then each other player chooses in turn order. A player does not have to reveal the chosen card, so long as it is clear *which* card was chosen. After all choices are made, the cards are put onto the battlefield simultaneously.

[rxavage]

In that scenario phyrexian revoker would be able to shut down Griselbrand if named but the creatures enter the battelfield simultaneously so if the opponent drops emrakul oops.


But the more I think about it, the more awkward the situation seems because you name the card as revoker enters the battlefield.

[Einherjer]

another question to add:

If Griselbrand and O-Ring are put into play by one show and Tell, may the Griselbrand player draw cards?

[Koby]

another question to add:

If Griselbrand and O-Ring are put into play by one show and Tell, may the Griselbrand player draw cards?

Oblivion Ring will trigger once both enter play, to which either play can respond to. Thus, Griselbrand's ability can be activated.


You can name a card already in play with revoker which the ability could be activated in response to but if they're both coming into play at the same time there wont be a chance for griselbrand's ability to be activated.

If Revoker enters play with Show and Tell, neither player has priority when Revoker names the card and enters the battlefield.

The situation I'm wondering about requires both Revoker and its intended target to enter play via Show & Tell simultaneously.

[Blitzbold]

another question to add:

If Griselbrand and O-Ring are put into play by one show and Tell, may the Griselbrand player draw cards?

Contrary to Revoker O-Ring's ability is triggered when O-RING etb. Therefore you can still respond to the trigger by activating abilities, even of the card named.

In this regard Revoker is comparable to Meddling Mage, which doesn't trigger as well and therefore can't be responded to as soon as the Mage resolves / etbs.

[cdr]

Scenario:
Opponent casts Show and Tell. My opponent chooses a card, and I choose Phyrexian Revoker.

Question:
Are both cards revealed, then enter the battlefield?
Would I be able to name the card that my opponent reveals off Show and Tell?


"As ETB" abilities like Revoker's modify how they ETB (603.6e (http://yawgatog.com/resources/magic-rules/#R6036e)).

All players can see all cards chosen when making as-ETB choices - ETBing happens after the cards are chosen. And because of APNAP all as-ETB choices made by players earlier in the order are known.

If multiple cards have as-ETB abilities, two or more players have to do something at the same time and APNAP applies (101.4 (http://yawgatog.com/resources/magic-rules/#R1014)). The first rules tip you quoted references this.

[rxavage]

So you can name whatever they drop from Show&Tell assuming it's a legal target because of APNAP?

[jrw1985]

So you can name whatever they drop from Show&Tell assuming it's a legal target because of APNAP?

Yes. Whether they put in Sneak Attack or Grisslebrand, you can shut it off with Revoker before they have a chance to even respond.

[rxavage]

OMG, this is so UNFAIR!!! Revoker needs to be banned!


/sarcasm

[cdr]

So you can name whatever they drop from Show&Tell assuming it's a legal target because of APNAP?

Not because of APNAP - that was an extra bit - but because that's just how the rules work.

APNAP would come up if your opponent played Show and Tell and he chose Callous Oppressor while you chose Revoker. You would know what he named for Oppressor before having to name for Revoker.