Loghead
06-04-2012, 05:50 AM
Hi all!I have been playing magic for some years now and i would like opinions on the following deck.I must say that i have NEVER attended a tournament since i always played just with friends.This is the decklist:
Lands:
18xSwamp
2xLake of the dead
Creatures:
4xNantuko shade
4xHypnotic specter
4xNyxathid
2xPhyrexian obliterator
2xTombstalker
Other spells:
4xDuress
4xHymn to Tourach
4xInquisition of Kozilek
4xDark ritual
4xThe rack
4xGeth's verdict
Sb:
3xEngineered Plague
2xPithing needle
3xGrafdigger's cage
4xExtirpate
3xDystopia
Explanations:
As you can see,the decks revolves around some heavy discarding,with the help of creatures to go for the win,NOT with liliana's caress or quest for the nihil stone,etc...
The rack is just an extra help,NOT your only way of winning!This is why i decided to post a new thread since there already was a mono-black discard
lake of the dead : They can destroy you just as easily as they can save you...In general it is a not recommended card,but synergizes well with nantuko and the big ones of the deck.Still,i like it's risk,though i would like to hear opinions as well:tongue:
hypnotic specter : This card is essential to the deck,just can't play without it.If you don't like him,don't go for discard!Turn 1 ritual hypnotic can pretty much ruin the game of your opponent.Yes,he is fragile,he can be destroyed/blocked with many things but still: He is too damn good!He will not win your game but he will lay the carpet for nyxathid and other bid daddys to join.
Nyxathid : I don't think i could say much about this card,just play it!It's totally overpowered in a discard deck and i have turned many games in my favor with this one:smile:
Tombstalker : Tombstalker can hit the board turn 3 or 4.Easily!Your graveyard will fill sooner than you think with the amount of spells you run and lake of the dead makes your job way easier.I was thinking of running 3 instead of 2...
Phyrexian Obliterator,Nantuko shade :So far they have proven to be amazing beaters.Obliterator is pretty much op and i liked it.I can understand it if someone said it doesn't fit in the deck,but it gives many aggro decks nightmares.Now a few things about nantuko shade:
You will never cast him turn 2 because you will always have something else to play!Nantuko hits the board when almost all your other spells have been played and your lands sit there still.With the help of lake it can become a true monster aside from the fact that if you know your game,it will take down many before it dies.
Both cards are not essential for your game,but provide you with valuable help.
About the "other spells" section,the only thing i would like to say is that i was thinking of replacing inquisition of kozilek with thoughtseize but haven't due to low budget.Geth's verdict(diabolic edict before its printing)has been the only creature killer i needed since the fact that it targets the player and not the creature has saved me many times.
Cards to consider:
Liliana of the veil: It's pretty daaaaamn good!:smile:But fits way better in a pox deck or even in the gate deck than mine,due to the fact that most of the time you can't protect her...
Dark confidant:Amazing card,probably one of the best black creatures ever printed,have tried it in MWS.I'm kinda low on budget for this one.Careful though because without nighthawk or umezawa's it's very dangerous
Vampire nighthawk
bitterblossom
umezawa's jitte:All these are amazing cards,but there is already a deck that revolves around them plus abyssal persecutor plus confidant and it's called the gate:tongue: I fail to see how these would improve my game based on the type of the deck,but still,they are always a valuable choice:smile:
Since i have never attended a tournament i can't provide statistics on the deck but i can say that in general it has some issues with extreme aggro decks and it pretty much rules over controls.
All opinions are welcome,thank you in advance!:smile:
Lands:
18xSwamp
2xLake of the dead
Creatures:
4xNantuko shade
4xHypnotic specter
4xNyxathid
2xPhyrexian obliterator
2xTombstalker
Other spells:
4xDuress
4xHymn to Tourach
4xInquisition of Kozilek
4xDark ritual
4xThe rack
4xGeth's verdict
Sb:
3xEngineered Plague
2xPithing needle
3xGrafdigger's cage
4xExtirpate
3xDystopia
Explanations:
As you can see,the decks revolves around some heavy discarding,with the help of creatures to go for the win,NOT with liliana's caress or quest for the nihil stone,etc...
The rack is just an extra help,NOT your only way of winning!This is why i decided to post a new thread since there already was a mono-black discard
lake of the dead : They can destroy you just as easily as they can save you...In general it is a not recommended card,but synergizes well with nantuko and the big ones of the deck.Still,i like it's risk,though i would like to hear opinions as well:tongue:
hypnotic specter : This card is essential to the deck,just can't play without it.If you don't like him,don't go for discard!Turn 1 ritual hypnotic can pretty much ruin the game of your opponent.Yes,he is fragile,he can be destroyed/blocked with many things but still: He is too damn good!He will not win your game but he will lay the carpet for nyxathid and other bid daddys to join.
Nyxathid : I don't think i could say much about this card,just play it!It's totally overpowered in a discard deck and i have turned many games in my favor with this one:smile:
Tombstalker : Tombstalker can hit the board turn 3 or 4.Easily!Your graveyard will fill sooner than you think with the amount of spells you run and lake of the dead makes your job way easier.I was thinking of running 3 instead of 2...
Phyrexian Obliterator,Nantuko shade :So far they have proven to be amazing beaters.Obliterator is pretty much op and i liked it.I can understand it if someone said it doesn't fit in the deck,but it gives many aggro decks nightmares.Now a few things about nantuko shade:
You will never cast him turn 2 because you will always have something else to play!Nantuko hits the board when almost all your other spells have been played and your lands sit there still.With the help of lake it can become a true monster aside from the fact that if you know your game,it will take down many before it dies.
Both cards are not essential for your game,but provide you with valuable help.
About the "other spells" section,the only thing i would like to say is that i was thinking of replacing inquisition of kozilek with thoughtseize but haven't due to low budget.Geth's verdict(diabolic edict before its printing)has been the only creature killer i needed since the fact that it targets the player and not the creature has saved me many times.
Cards to consider:
Liliana of the veil: It's pretty daaaaamn good!:smile:But fits way better in a pox deck or even in the gate deck than mine,due to the fact that most of the time you can't protect her...
Dark confidant:Amazing card,probably one of the best black creatures ever printed,have tried it in MWS.I'm kinda low on budget for this one.Careful though because without nighthawk or umezawa's it's very dangerous
Vampire nighthawk
bitterblossom
umezawa's jitte:All these are amazing cards,but there is already a deck that revolves around them plus abyssal persecutor plus confidant and it's called the gate:tongue: I fail to see how these would improve my game based on the type of the deck,but still,they are always a valuable choice:smile:
Since i have never attended a tournament i can't provide statistics on the deck but i can say that in general it has some issues with extreme aggro decks and it pretty much rules over controls.
All opinions are welcome,thank you in advance!:smile: