First piece of power

[KIP_NZ]

I've also bought in online, playing shops. Playing ghost quarters instead of wastelands at the moment.

[Lysandros]

Sroncor1 - Do you have anywhere to play 93/94? I've been trying to find people around where I live, and I'm getting close to having some friends start in on Vintage, but 93/94 seems a longshot. That format is A BLAST. Drawing the line at 95, 96, or 97 would be just as fun too I imagine.

[sroncor1]

There are a group of guys that played last time. One of the local stores has been really cool and I am working in getting regular fun old formats played there. We have a block party tournament scheduled for November and working on some old school drafts and classic at the same time. My hope is to have one of these events a month. I have a fuckton of old cards that I can start using as prize support and people have been pretty enthusiastic. And yes classic 93/94 is a blast. Probably the best magic I've ever played. Takes me back. But random blocks is pretty cool also. Are you in the dc area? I'm hoping people will be able to play 93/94 at champs

Seth

[Lysandros]

Not in DC area, I live near St. Louis. Not much Vintage here, even less 93/94. I'm working on some people to start up the Vintage at least. I don't think I'm going to be able to swing Eternal Championships this year or I'd say I'll bring my 93/94 deck and we could sling some old school goodness. That format has to be the best in Magic. Ironically, it's basically totally unexplored.

[Rome]

http://www.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/20140922125410x45gwitdzv.jpg

YEAHHHH

[KIP_NZ]

I did a very large transaction today.... I shall have new pictures for this thread in a few weekends time!

[KIP_NZ]

I did a very large transaction today.... I shall have new pictures for this thread in a few weekends time!

Here's the pic! I had the Twister / Ancestral / Walk / Vault already, the week before Eternal Weekend I did a big 4 way deal that involved an online colleague trading 4 of his moxes to a friend, acquiring a beta lotus, selling my WB power and then selling all the beta power to me!

http://i.imgur.com/TKjCx9a.jpg

[Teluin]

Amazing! Also, love that Diamond was added to your playmat.

[KIP_NZ]

Amazing! Also, love that Diamond was added to your playmat.

Yer it's a custom mat by Dan Frazer, was my birthday present last year from my wife :)

[afb0032]

Yer it's a custom mat by Dan Frazer, was my birthday present last year from my wife :)

Beautiful, your wife did a great job with that mat choice. Congrats on finishing up the black bordered power!

[KIP_NZ]

Beautiful, your wife did a great job with that mat choice. Congrats on finishing up the black bordered power!


Cheers. I did choose, arrange and pay for the mat. My wife / daughter wrapped it and "surprised" me with it on my birthday :)

[Whippoorwill]

Congrats, KIP! That is a very nice set of cards and playmat!

[KindGrind]

This mat looks gorgeous indeed, and the beta power isn't too shabby either! :wink:

[Cynicath]

Is it just me or does this look super fake?

Apologies for the super late response. Haven't checked the thread in some time obviously. I'm fairly certain it isn't fake, the lighting from the camera does look a bit odd though. It passes the light test, has the correct dot pattern, and has the blue 'dots' on the sides of the card indicating the presence of the blue paper inner layer. If you know of any other tests I can perform without damaging the card I'd appreciate the input.

[guillemnicolau]

And with this ancestral that is on the way home I'll take my vintage nonfoil pool is quite finished
http://i.imgur.com/WzYHh74.jpg?1
http://i.imgur.com/syIkJxz.jpg?1

[Finn]

Hey fellas. I have four Tabernacles in good shape, four Candelabras in various shape, four unused copies of this thing: Capture of Jingzhou (those silly cards are sold out at $400 a pop at SCG), two Chains of Meph, two Bazaars, and various other expensive cards that I could see myself parting with if I had to. I am wondering if the Vintage players think I would be wise to grab some power to replace them. I have not owned any of it since like '96 or something, and I can't see myself spending cash on the cards. And I am unlikely to play Vintage at all, so I am not in any hurry to acquire the cards. Just wondering about opinions.

[mini1337s]

Hey fellas. I have four Tabernacles in good shape, four Candelabras in various shape, four unused copies of this thing: Capture of Jingzhou (those silly cards are sold out at $400 a pop at SCG), two Chains of Meph, two Bazaars, and various other expensive cards that I could see myself parting with if I had to. I am wondering if the Vintage players think I would be wise to grab some power to replace them. I have not owned any of it since like '96 or something, and I can't see myself spending cash on the cards. And I am unlikely to play Vintage at all, so I am not in any hurry to acquire the cards. Just wondering about opinions.
Honestly, to me the answer is clear; would you rather have the ability to play a few fringe Legacy strategies or the ability to play Vintage.
The thing is though, P9 is super expensive right now. Depending how you sell and acquire, that stack of cards might not be worth a Lotus (assuming NM).
Owning power is awesome, but it is very expensive to complete. As long as you are comfortable with the fact that you still have 8k worth of cards after you pickup the Lotus, I'd say go for it

[nedleeds]

Hey fellas. I have four Tabernacles in good shape, four Candelabras in various shape, four unused copies of this thing: Capture of Jingzhou (those silly cards are sold out at $400 a pop at SCG), two Chains of Meph, two Bazaars, and various other expensive cards that I could see myself parting with if I had to. I am wondering if the Vintage players think I would be wise to grab some power to replace them. I have not owned any of it since like '96 or something, and I can't see myself spending cash on the cards. And I am unlikely to play Vintage at all, so I am not in any hurry to acquire the cards. Just wondering about opinions.

As stated, the issue is that you should start with lotus and a MP Lotus is 4-5K. Another option would be 4 bazaars which I think will be 500+ by next eternal weekend.

[death]

I'd suggest Ancestral + Walk + Sapphire + Ruby and you can build UR Landstill or UR Gush aggro. At least this way you'll have a competitive Vintage deck, not just a random Lotus.

Also, with Dack Fayden in the format, I'd rather not play with full Power.

LOL

[humppa]

Begin with Lotus.

1) Lotus is the hardest one to borrow from friends
2) all other cards are crazy cheap! (After you pay for Lotus....)

[nedleeds]

If you want to play legacy at a vintage event play u/r delver.

[mini1337s]

If you want to play legacy at a vintage event play u/r delver.
And I'm "totally" sure that Delver is up Finn's alley lol

5 color unviable decks or bust

[Lysandros]

Shops might be up Finn's alley since the prison versions play somewhat similar to Death and Taxes. You don't necessarily need a Lotus in Shops. Five Moxen and 4 Workshops works fine. Pretty sure that pile would trade across for that, or at least come very close.

[Pox22]

I would say in general that it's best to start with the Lotus, but it also depends on what you're wanting to play. I started with Lotus and Ancestral because then I could play a functional Doomsday list while looking for a clean Sapphire, Jet, and Walk at decent prices. You could play UR Delver without mana rocks and prioritize Ancestral and Time Walk over Lotus.

But if the ultimate goal is the full set, then I'd start with the Lotus as its price is the highest and the most volatile. Everything feels easier after that.

[nedleeds]

Anyone not playing lotus is just poor, dumb or bad at math. It's about an 8% chance of having your lotus in your opener ... does it lose value on the draw? I guess but the same can be said for almost any spell. Lotus is the best most versatile card to have for vintage. It should go in any deck that wants mana. Dredge is so laser focused and the spells are typically not meant to exceed 1CC (or are free).

I single handedly lost my 2 matches at Eternal Weekend because my opponent either had black lotus in his opener or went land / crypt trinket mage lotus (i.e. had the lotus to go get). This is a shop players perspective. Please please please please don't have your lotus on the play.

Lotus enables, the straightest storm kills, the most absurd turn one shop plays, land lotus jace which won vintage champs twice I believe, absurd interactions with other cards (bomberman, delve cards, trinket mage). I've watched it in Derp Delver autowin by enabling turn one double pyromancer.

If you want to play paper vintage and you have an opportunity to obtain a lotus in your budget you should start with BLACK FUCKING LOTUS.

[KindGrind]

Nedleeds is right, get Lotus first. Any deck is better with it. Which brings me to this...

I have a question for you, fellow Vintage aficionados.

What are your thoughts on signed power? I picked up a signed Lotus last year (the only signed card in my power 9) and didn't think much about it. I wouldn't have picked up a signed random Mox, but as the Lotus stands out from the rest, I didn't care much at all. Plus, it was the only copy available locally, so I didn't have much of a choice at the time.

I'm wondering what's the general consensus on signed power, and how it might affect its selling value in the future. I'm planning on keeping it and passing it on to my kids, but was just wondering. I know that for some people, signed cards are immediately HP (akin to sharpied cards) and therefore a no go. Is power, especially Lotus, exempt from such way of thinking?.

[death]

Several months/years from now my first power will be a Beta NM BGS 8-9 Ancestral Recall, it will be unsigned/unaltered of course. Followed by two or three beat up Unlimited jewelry, signed or whatever (HP=nobody cares). I'm looking to build quad power Landstill and steamroll those mono (lotus) powered decks who followed nedleeds advice.


It's about an 8% chance of having your lotus in your opener

I have a greater chance (38%) of FoW'ng your first play.

[dunk]

Half a year ago I was talking about how I was selling a bunch of foils in order to afford power. Finally, the first 5 of these sought-after pieces finally made it to me :)

http://i60.tinypic.com/2m7gagy.jpg

[guillemnicolau]

Well done, I think those 5 pieces are the most played cards of the P9 now, so this opens many decks for you :)

[Finn]

Seems wrong to have Cursecatcher next to TimeWalk. Could you take those eyesore commons out and scan the cards again? It would give me warm fuzzies.

[death]

Something, something, picked up unlimited ancestral recall, black lotus & imperial seal (5k usd)

[AnvilOfCrom]

I know that its not the best order to get cheaper Power first, but i´m now the proud owner of an UL Mox Ruby :smile:

[Arksz]

I was interested in picking up power. Where can I find some info on prices for unlimited pieces?

[Dice_Box]

I gave in and bought a Timetwister. Now I have the set. I still don't think Timetwister has any right to be part of the power these days though. Time Vault is far more deserving of that slot.

[Varal]

I gave in and bought a Timetwister. Now I have the set. I still don't think Timetwister has any right to be part of the power these days though. Time Vault is far more deserving of that slot.

It's an historic notion. Even if Timetwister is played less than Time Vault, it's more expensive. Both are played a lot less than the rest of the Power 9. The Old 10th Power Library of Alexandria is still played more than both of them.

[KIP_NZ]

I gave in and bought a Timetwister. Now I have the set. I still don't think Timetwister has any right to be part of the power these days though. Time Vault is far more deserving of that slot.

Like they say in Pokemon, got to catch (have) them all.

[AnvilOfCrom]

Like they say in Pokemon, got to catch (have) them all.

Absolutely ^^ After the Mox Ruby i now picked up an UL Recall in Utrecht. Can't wait for the next piece of power :cool:

[barcode]

I've joined the Beta Club. This is piece number 1.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/22284908/mtg/tmp/beta-emerald.jpg

[Nuke is Good]

I recently snagged an Unlimited Lotus. Though in terms of the non budget cards I've always owned an english Imperial Seal.

[Dice_Box]

I've joined the Beta Club. This is piece number 1.
That is real pretty.