[GP] Denver - Jan 5-6, 2013

[Koby]

Yay for more Legacy Grand Prix!

Boo for ice cold temperatures in a city not known for high Legacy attendance.

Discuss which parka you'll be wearing.

[bfeingersh]

Both of the other GPs I was planning on attending turned out to be standard (Atlantic City and Quebec) so I think I'm going to go all out and hit up Denver as well. I'm finishing my last semester of school, so I think a celebration is in order.

[Chikenbok]

Been meaning to visit some buddies in Colorado for a while now, looks like the perfect time to plan my getaway, although I was supposed to go to Paris for a conference and a vacation with my girlfriend in January...

*I can see it now*

"Sweetheart, Denver is like the Paris of America. You wouldn't have enjoyed the phenomenology conference anyway, I'm doing YOU a favor!"

"We're going to Paris."

[Richard Cheese]

GP Denver Good Times Guide
I may update with links later, but for now I'm assuming you're all smart enough to use google. More to come as I have time.

Food

Fine Dining

Beatrice & Woodsley - Full disclaimer, I used to work here, but I still think they have some of the most interesting and innovative food in the city, and by far the most interesting interior design. On the current menu, the meat-n-beet and and chicken-fried duck burger are batshit-crazy-good. Brunch is always solid too (get a rasher of bacon, you will not be disappointed), and the cocktails are usually good, though I find them a bit fussy.

Fruition - If B&W is the the most innovative restaurant around, Fruition is probably the most solid. Competent staff, good wine list, and they own their own farm where they get most of their eggs, produce, and make some really excellent cheeses. Book well in advance, because the place is tiny. Also no parties bigger than 4.

Z Cuisine/A Cote - Phenomenal French bistro. Z cuisine is the restaurant proper, while A Cote is the Absinthe/wine bar next door. They share a kitchen though, so the real difference is that Z is much harder to get into, but has a menu that changes daily, whereas the A Cote menu is a more stable selection of a few favorites. Excellent charcuterie.


Dirty Good Time

Tacos y Salsas #3 - Best tacos I've had since leaving TX, hands down. Carnitas, Deshebrada, Lengua, and Barbacoa are all not to be missed.

Lao Wang Noodle House - Usually crowded, hot, terrible service, but absurdly amazing xiao long bao (think wonton soup, but the soup is in the wonton...mind = blown)

Pho 95 - There are about 300 numbered Pho places along South Federal, but I can vouch for this one being consistently excellent. Be aware that it's going to be packed on a cold weekend night, and you'll probably be sitting uncomfortably close to a perfect stranger. On the upside, it'll smells way better inside than most Magic event spaces.

Snarf's (many locations) - Best. Sandwiches. Ever. Get an Italian with everything, weep.


Brekkie
Honestly I don't go out for breakfast much, feel free to send me suggestions.

Denver Diner - Yeah it's all frozen hashbrowns and pre-made everything, etc. But the coffee is good, service is fast, and they never ever fuck up eggs over medium. Pretty much all you can ask for in a greasy spoon.

Santiago's - Denver has a thing about "green chili" which is a spicy green/orange pork-based southwestern kind of sauce. Santiago's is known for theirs being spicy as all hell, and selling these tiny breakfast burritos by the dozen with eggs and potato and green chili. It's a chain, so there may be one relatively close to the event site.

Drink

Upscale/Cocktails

Colt and Gray - This place has a full menu, but I was not super impressed with the restaurant, especially when compared to the bar, which has some of the best cocktails in town. Interesting original drinks that aren't overdone, and great versions of about any classic you can think up. The bar snacks menu is great too, they make a lot of good charcuterie in house, and the portions on the cheese plate are fairly generous. Don't miss the crispy pig's trotter.


Bars

Hops & Pie - Awesome place. Great pizza and sandwiches, great beer selection that changes regularly.

Euclid Hall - This is really more of a restaurant, but I'm not super impressed with their food, but they keep a lot of good beers around.

Providence Tavern - This is my neighborhood joint. Good beer selection, really fucking good hamburgers.

Falling Rock Tap House - Tons of beer on tap (mostly leans towards Belgians), generic bar food, douchey part of town.


Breweries
For now this is just one big jumbled list in no particular order, because there are just too many to go into detail. Fort Collins is about an hour and a half north, Boulder is 30-45min northwest.

Breckenridge (Kalmath St. location)
O'Dell Brewing(Fort Collins)
Upslope (Boulder)
Strange Brewing
Denver Beer Company
Golden City Brewery (Golden)
Coors (when in Rome?) (Golden)
Oskar Blues (Lyons, north of Boulder)
New Belgium (Fort Collins)
Boulder Beer Company
Dry Dock (Aurora)
Wynkoop
Avery (Boulder)
Great Divide
Left Hand (Longmont, N of Boulder)

I'm sure there are plenty I'm forgetting and will get yelled at about.


Stuff to Do

Brewery Tours - See list above. Coors is actually interesting just because of the scale, also self-guided so you can basically skip to the free beer part.

Lannie's Clocktower Cabaret - I cannot stress enough how awesome this place can be. The late night burlesque/variety shows (Thurs-Sat, 11pm) are always excellent. Good mix of comedy, magic, variety, and of course, boobs.


Go Outside
Note that you can rent just about any outdoor equipment you might want at REI. There is a huge flagship store on Platte St. near downtown.

Skiing - Winter Park, Loveland, and Arapahoe Basin are all the closest resorts (I think). Keep going and you'll hit Aspen, Vail, Copper Mtn, Breckenridge, etc.

Snowshoeing - No idea where to go, but you can rent shoes at REI. If anyone is actually interested I can ask a friend that's into it.

Ice Skating - The lake at Evergreen is where it's at, and only 5$ (not counting skate rental)

Hot Springs - If you really want to make a vacation out of it, about 3hrs west of Denver you run into Glenwood Springs and Steamboat Springs. There are hot spring resorts/lodges/cabins all over the place out there.

[sdematt]

I think I may attend this one. One non-blue Beta dual or a trip to a GP...GP it is.

I'll book the time off work and start rationing the incomes.

I'm hoping we don't get snowed in or anything, that's my only concern. How's the airport's reliability? Flying during the Christmas high doesn't seem the nicest, either.

-Matt

[.dk]

I think I may attend this one. One non-blue Beta dual or a trip to a GP...GP it is.

I'll book the time off work and start rationing the incomes.

I'm hoping we don't get snowed in or anything, that's my only concern. How's the airport's reliability? Flying during the Christmas high doesn't seem the nicest, either.

-Matt

DIA is generally pretty good. We get a good bit of snow (obviously), so they have learned pretty well how to deal with it there. The airport itself is really nice as well, in my opinion.

Definitely looking forward to Legacy in my own stomping grounds - hopefully there will be a good enough turnout and excitement that we can expand our Legacy scene here. :)

[HAVE HEART]

Definitely going.

[Wirrsturm]

Legacy AND within driving distance AND during winter break, how can I not go?

Huzzah

[Raji]

I hope this will be the shot in the arm the local legacy scene needs to become a bit more active.

As far as DIA and our winter weather are concerned I would be put it as a non issue. Yea we "occasionally" get snow in the city but no worse than anywhere back east or in the midwest.

[Richard Cheese]

I will probably be going to this.

Denver's main airport is pretty reliable. It is one of the busiest (passenger count) in the USA.

It also has a bar every 50 feet. There's no airport I'd rather be stuck in for any amount of time.

[cdr]

Legacy in Denver in January? WTF are they thinking?

Guess I'll be there.

[Richard Cheese]

Legacy in Denver in January? WTF are they thinking?

Guess I'll be there.

I guess it's along the same lines as Atlanta in July. WotC seems to be a bit confused lately. Or maybe this is how they kill Legacy. Can't wait for GP Tuscon in August and GP Fairbanks next December.

[.dk]

I guess it's along the same lines as Atlanta in July. WotC seems to be a bit confused lately. Or maybe this is how they kill Legacy. Can't wait for GP Tuscon in August and GP Fairbanks next December.

That was pretty awesome in Atlanta, when they broke their all time high record on Sunday that was set on Saturday. :(

Seriously though, January is usually not too bad - we don't tend to get a lot of snow then either. February-March are much worse.

[Leftconsin]

Last GP Denver was in February and it wasn't that bad.

[sdematt]

So, do we want to have a Source event? I'd love to get more Source playmats out into the world, mine is very lonely.

-Matt

[Aggro_zombies]

I guess it's along the same lines as Atlanta in July. WotC seems to be a bit confused lately. Or maybe this is how they kill Legacy. Can't wait for GP Tuscon in August and GP Fairbanks next December.
GP Tucson in May would be worse because it's hotter and the monsoons wouldn't have started yet.

Then again, 105F temperatures with 35-40% humidity is its own special variety of painful.

EDIT: GP Yuma in May: 115F outside at noon, have fun with that.

[rxavage]

So, do we want to have a Source event? I'd love to get more Source playmats out into the world, mine is very lonely.

-Matt

Where/How do I get one?

[cdr]

Where/How do I get one?

They were distributed at GP Providence and to mods/admins in a very limited fashion; WotC nixed them because of using card art and no progress was made on getting permission.

Assuming it works out with me attending, I would likely try to set up a Source table at the GP and have some sort of Source swag.

[rxavage]

They were distributed at GP Providence and to mods/admins in a very limited fashion; WotC nixed them because of using card art and no progress was made on getting permission.

Assuming it works out with me attending, I would likely try to set up a Source table at the GP and have some sort of Source swag.

Damn, I live in North Providence, really wish I had gotten into legacy just a few months earlier. WotC is lame for not consenting.

[sdematt]

I'm on the bandwagon of "Fuck them," and let's just print them and not put the Website address (just put "The Source").

Ideally, we keep it discreet and maybe not on site, so we can just say we made them ourselves for personal and non-profit use.

-Matt

[RaNDoMxGeSTuReS]

Yes. Yes. And yes.

So now I can meet and great and (meat) the rest of you.

[damionblackgear]

So... where're we all meeting? Seems like a good number of people are planning on going.

[sdematt]

IDK. Would Denver in this day and age have a hotel? A hotel made out of old Subarus, I'd image.

Too bad I'm not driving, otherwise I could add a Subaru to the bunch and pretend to be a Denver-ite.

-Matt

[Bignasty197]

Is anyone from the Dallas area going to this? Maybe someone wants to split a hotel? I can provide transportation to/from DFW airport/ Love Field if needed. Let me know or PM me.

[Clown of Tresserhorn]

So savage. 15 minutes from my house. I love WOTC.

See you bitches there!

[RaNDoMxGeSTuReS]

So savage. 15 minutes from my house. I love WOTC.

See you bitches there!

Bob, I hate you.

Still an 8.5 hour drive is shorter than GP Indy.

Bob, I love you.

[r3dd09]

So, do we want to have a Source event? I'd love to get more Source playmats out into the world, mine is very lonely.

-Matt

Don't bring that up. I'm still salty I never got one :'(

But yes, lets make another mat, and if anyone has the previous mat for sell. hit me up.

I'll be attending from SLC. I'll try to drag some friends along.

Got to rep the DDFT.

[Wanderlust]

+1 on attending, wanting a Source playmat, and being down for a Source event.

It is surreal that this was announced just as I am to moving back to Colorado. Santa Claus is on top of his shit this year!

[sdematt]

In case my friends can't go and it'd just be me, anyone wanting to split hotel?

-Matt

[RaNDoMxGeSTuReS]

In case my friends can't go and it'd just be me, anyone wanting to split hotel?

-Matt

Where were you gonna stay?

[r3dd09]

In case my friends can't go and it'd just be me, anyone wanting to split hotel?

-Matt

I might be down. I need to talk to my buddies and see if they plan on going, first.

[sdematt]

I had no idea, is the Brown Palace nice?

But in all seriousness, an okay hotel is okay. 3 stars or something.

-Matt

[Clown of Tresserhorn]

There's a shit ton of places to stay for cheap. Just don't pick a motel on Colfax. You might get yo shit fucked up.

While I can't host anyone (the fiancee hates magic players...go figure), I can give people rides to/from the convention center if needed.

[csy]

Like every legacy GP in the states. I'll be there. I'm actually gonna drive there from la with some locals to make it a road trip. I'm very interested in some source goods.

[Richard Cheese]

Did they announce the location? The WotC site sucks so hard I can never find shit on it.

[.dk]

i don't think they've announced the venue yet. at least based on my searching. i sure hope it's somewhere decent downtown...

[cdr]

Every GP Denver so far has been at the Crowne Plaza (former Holiday Inn DIA). I doubt the trend will change considering how inexpensive the venue is.

[.dk]

since we're getting legacy in denver... is it too much to hope that the luck streak keeps going and it's NOT at the crowne plaza? :(

[RaNDoMxGeSTuReS]

GP Denver will be at Crowne Plaza. Source?

Helene Bergeot tweeted me.

[Koby]

ROADTRIP! (hope it doesn't snow. that would suck. - not necessarily in Denver either. No whammies!)

[RaNDoMxGeSTuReS]

roadtrip! (hope it doesn't snow. That would suck. - not necessarily in denver either. No whammies!)

roadtrip!!!! Let's car pool!!!

[Final Ritual]

A few of us from will be flying in from Atlanta. Any chance anyone will play taxi cab/host for the weekend.

[sdematt]

Ugh, flights look like they're murder since it's right around the holidays. Regularly $200, now $500. Fuck my life. 2400km roadtrip that would be 24+ hours of solid driving versus the flight cost? $70 per tank, 450km per tank (abouts, but probs better since it's all highway), so say, to be conservative, 6 tanks of gas = $420. Might as well fly :/

-Matt

[cdr]

A few of us from will be flying in from Atlanta. Any chance anyone will play taxi cab/host for the weekend.

At worst if staying at the Crowne Plaza there's a free airport shuttle; there's also a bunch more hotels 2-3 mi down 40th all with airport shuttles, which some may consider "walking distance".

There'll probably be someone with a car in the hotel row willing to bus people back and forth to the venue too, I'm sure.


Ugh, flights look like they're murder since it's right around the holidays. Regularly $200, now $500. Fuck my life.

-Matt

Yeah, that's another thing that's screwed up about this event.

[GoblinSettler]

Ugh, flights look like they're murder since it's right around the holidays. Regularly $200, now $500. Fuck my life. 2400km roadtrip that would be 24+ hours of solid driving versus the flight cost? $70 per tank, 450km per tank (abouts, but probs better since it's all highway), so say, to be conservative, 6 tanks of gas = $420. Might as well fly :/

-Matt

You should drive down to Seattle and fly from Sea-Tac. Look to be flights under $300.

[.dk]

Ugh, flights look like they're murder since it's right around the holidays. Regularly $200, now $500. Fuck my life. 2400km roadtrip that would be 24+ hours of solid driving versus the flight cost? $70 per tank, 450km per tank (abouts, but probs better since it's all highway), so say, to be conservative, 6 tanks of gas = $420. Might as well fly :/

-Matt

I get alerts on flights in and out of denver if they are cheap - if I see anything in your area i'll let you know. $500 sounds like... highway robbery? :(

[Esper3k]

So we're fairly certain this will be at the Denver convention center?

I'd hate to book a hotel nearby only to find it's somewhere else...

Hooray for enough rewards points on Southwest to fly for free!

[csy]

Helene berg said its at crowne plaza

[Richard Cheese]

If it's at the Crowne Plaza, I would wait to book. They will almost certainly offer a discounted room rate, and it's not a bad hotel. If not, there are a dozen hotels right down the street. A cursory search on hotels.com is showing rooms for $60+/night.

[Esper3k]

Helene berg said its at crowne plaza

Did she mention which one?

It looks like there are 2 in Denver, one at:

1450 Glenarm Place, Denver, CO (which has terrible reviews)

and one at:

15500 East 40th Avenue, Denver, CO

[bfeingersh]

Ugh, flights look like they're murder since it's right around the holidays. Regularly $200, now $500. Fuck my life. 2400km roadtrip that would be 24+ hours of solid driving versus the flight cost? $70 per tank, 450km per tank (abouts, but probs better since it's all highway), so say, to be conservative, 6 tanks of gas = $420. Might as well fly :/

-Matt

Jetblue is looking like $260 plus taxes/fees for round trip from Boston, flying in friday morning and leaving sunday night (landing in boston monday morning, time change etc.)

I'm graduating in january so as long as it doesn't fall on the same weekend as my grad ceremony, I'm in there. Booking my flight now.

[Richard Cheese]

Did she mention which one?

It looks like there are 2 in Denver, one at:

1450 Glenarm Place, Denver, CO (which has terrible reviews)

and one at:

15500 East 40th Avenue, Denver, CO

Always the 15500 one. It's out by the airport.

[Koby]

Always the 15500 one. It's out by the airport.

WHAT THE FUCK? Who in their goddamn mind names two hotels in the same city with the same name.

[Esper3k]

Always the 15500 one. It's out by the airport.

Man, the Google reviews are pretty terrible on that one as well...

[.dk]

WHAT THE FUCK? Who in their goddamn mind names two hotels in the same city with the same name.

pretty much every hotel chain in existence, as far as I know. pretty awesome, huh.

[Koby]

pretty much every hotel chain in existence, as far as I know. pretty awesome, huh.

Well, there's the option of going:
Hyatt Downtown
Hyatt Uptown
Hyatt Marquis
etc

Crowne Plaza?
Two addresses.

Another day, another reinforcement that Business people are actually retarded.

EDIT: I'm salty because I woke up to a parking ticket. In front of my house. On a public parking street. >:-[

[Richard Cheese]

I usually see it referred to as "Crowne Plaza Denver Airport" if that makes you feel any better.

[cdr]

So we're fairly certain this will be at the Denver convention center?

I'd hate to book a hotel nearby only to find it's somewhere else...

Hooray for enough rewards points on Southwest to fly for free!

Not the Denver Convention Center, the Crowne Plaza "convention center". I think the Crowne refers to it as the "airport convention center" or something - it's attached to the hotel, it's not all that big.

It's on East 40th, about 10 miles from DIA and otherwise pretty much in the middle of nowhere.

[Esper3k]

Thanks guys!

You know, you'd think WoTC would be able to put this on the GP website...

[Koby]

I usually see it referred to as "Crowne Plaza Denver Airport" if that makes you feel any better.

Moral of the story -
Wizards should just say where the venue is when they announce the location.

[Esper3k]

Moral of the story -
Wizards should just say where the venue is when they announce the location.

What? Planning months ahead of time?

Improbable!

[.dk]

Moral of the story -
Wizards should just say where the venue is when they announce the location.

seconded! especially since Helene apparently even knows where it is going to be. Why wouldn't you post it in that case?

[bfeingersh]

Booked my flight. Anyone want to split hotel costs? I don't know if anyone else in my crew will be making the trip (likely 1-2 will), and I definitely don't want to get a room for myself. Need a place for friday/saturday nights, I'll be leaving sunday night.

[sdematt]

I wouldn't mind splitting hotels, to be honest.

-Matt

[Esper3k]

Booked my flight. Anyone want to split hotel costs? I don't know if anyone else in my crew will be making the trip (likely 1-2 will), and I definitely don't want to get a room for myself. Need a place for friday/saturday nights, I'll be leaving sunday night.

But what happens if you Top 8!?!

[.dk]

But what happens if you Top 8!?!

Move your flight!

[sdematt]

I'm assuming you'd just call the airline and tell them to book the next flight instead. I'm assuming you can do that without too much hassle, considering you're already paid for the ticket.

-Matt

[Esper3k]

I'm assuming you'd just call the airline and tell them to book the next flight instead. I'm assuming you can do that without too much hassle, considering you're already paid for the ticket.

-Matt

Really depends on the airline. Southwest is pretty good about allowing you to transfer your funds (of course, the cost of the new flight will probably be higher), but others like Delta & United rape you in the ass for changing flights even slightly.

[.dk]

Really depends on the airline. Southwest is pretty good about allowing you to transfer your funds (of course, the cost of the new flight will probably be higher), but others like Delta & United rape you in the ass for changing flights even slightly.

Nah, that's not true for United. I almost rebooked at GP Atlanta mid-day on Sunday, and they were going to charge me $25. Seems fine... although granted, I have Premiere Executive status or whatever with them, so maybe that made the difference.

[Koby]

Just book the flight on Monday and take the day off work. You'll need it after all the whiskey/beer-a-thons that we'll be having.

[csy]

koby talks a big game, but its usually me getting drunk killing people in werewolf games, setting off firearms, and getting hit in the face.

this time though, its gonna be different.

[Koby]

koby talks a big game, but its usually me getting drunk killing people in werewolf games, setting off firearms, and getting hit in the face.

this time though, its gonna be different.

To be fair, I didn't nurse a Mary Jacobson back from doom all nite long in 90deg/90% humidity. YMMV.

[csy]

To be fair, I didn't nurse a Mary Jacobson back from doom all nite long in 90deg/90% humidity. YMMV.

hey, there was no nursing, it was merely, 'wow you're drunk let me help you out' ..... 'oh crap why did I decide to be nice'

[bfeingersh]

But what happens if you Top 8!?!

I'll just have to kill everyone super fast then.

And by leaving sunday night, I mean the flight is at 11:45. So I should be good, as long as they don't give me trouble trying to bring the trophy as a carry-on.

[Esper3k]

Nah, that's not true for United. I almost rebooked at GP Atlanta mid-day on Sunday, and they were going to charge me $25. Seems fine... although granted, I have Premiere Executive status or whatever with them, so maybe that made the difference.

Yeah that does. I recently flew United (2 weeks ago) and they wanted to charge me about $400 to change my flight...


Just book the flight on Monday and take the day off work.

This is indeed the plan since I hate travelling one day then having to immediately have to go to work the next day (and all my vacation time resets Jan 1 anyways, woo hoo!).

[cdr]

Nah, that's not true for United. I almost rebooked at GP Atlanta mid-day on Sunday, and they were going to charge me $25. Seems fine... although granted, I have Premiere Executive status or whatever with them, so maybe that made the difference.

Status is the difference. There's a $75 change fee on United for same-day (eg, new flight is within 24 hours of original flight time), $150 for non-same-day. That's on top of the fare difference, of course. Most of the other majors are in the same ballpark.

Only a discount airline is going to give you cheap or free ticket changes, and even then only some - Southwest is the only one I can think of offhand with absolutely no change fees.

[.dk]

Status is the difference. There's a $75 change fee on United for same-day (eg, new flight is within 24 hours of original flight time), $150 for non-same-day. That's on top of the fare difference, of course. Most of the other majors are in the same ballpark.

Only a discount airline is going to give you cheap or free ticket changes, and even then only some - Southwest is the only one I can think of offhand with absolutely no change fees.

ah - i didn't realize i was so special! i knew there was something in it for me with the wife traveling for work all the time!

[Ziveeman]

How's the drive to Denver in the winter time? A little naivety on my part, but I'm thinking of driving from Phoenix, Arizona but I've never driven in snow before (since you know, Arizona). What exactly do I need to be careful of and is there any special equipment I need for my car (like chains or something)?

Driving seems like hell but I don't wanna pay $250-300 per person for a flight...we'll see though I guess.

[sdematt]

I'd suggest a car with front wheel drive at the minimum, and a decent amount of height for clearance. Nothing spectacular, but no low-riding sports cars with rear wheel drive.

If I were driving, I'd bring chains, blanket, spare tire, reflectors, etc. I'd calculate the gas out, though. Phoenix to Denver will still take a few thanks, if my geography is correct.

Also, I wouldn't might bendering all of Sunday night with the Source crew, since I'll be 21 at the time (finally).

-Matt

[Clown of Tresserhorn]

How's the drive to Denver in the winter time? A little naivety on my part, but I'm thinking of driving from Phoenix, Arizona but I've never driven in snow before (since you know, Arizona). What exactly do I need to be careful of and is there any special equipment I need for my car (like chains or something)?

Driving seems like hell but I don't wanna pay $250-300 per person for a flight...we'll see though I guess.

A car will do. C-dot (local plows) are really good. Unless we get blasted for half a foot of snow, the commute won't be bad. I have a 2 wheel sports car and I have to drive up to 10,000 feet every day for work.

[cdr]

I've done Denver to Phoenix a few times because of family in Phoenix. The worst part about it is it's 14 hours, really painful to do in a single day - especially in winter. Does help if you split driving.

Most of it is desert, but Flagstaff and/or the 3 hours of mountain prior to Denver can be a major pain if there's been weather.

[RaNDoMxGeSTuReS]

I'd suggest a car with front wheel drive at the minimum, and a decent amount of height for clearance. Nothing spectacular, but no low-riding sports cars with rear wheel drive.

If I were driving, I'd bring chains, blanket, spare tire, reflectors, etc. I'd calculate the gas out, though. Phoenix to Denver will still take a few thanks, if my geography is correct.

Also, I wouldn't might bendering all of Sunday night with the Source crew, since I'll be 21 at the time (finally).

-Matt

A stripper will do a lot to you for your collection of beta duals.

[sdematt]

How far does a kilo of coke go?

I'm pretty sure I'll be leaving some of the pimp stuff at home, though. GP's seem like good times for theft :/

-Matt

[cdr]

I'm pretty sure I'll be leaving some of the pimp stuff at home, though. GP's seem like good times for theft :/

-Matt

GP Denver 08 had both that family of GP thieves and the local yugioh thieves going to town; one guy alone had a $6K(?) bag stolen and the total was something like $30K.

Fortunately when SCG took over for '11 things were much cleaner AFAIK.

[Phelix]

Im seriously considering attending.

cant find SCG 2013 schedule anywhere. would love to at least double dip legacy if I skip continents for it.

anyone know? free couches, cars, golds, lapdances and hotel rooms accepted.

[Koby]

Im seriously considering attending.

cant find SCG 2013 schedule anywhere. would love to at least double dip legacy if I skip continents for it.

anyone know? free couches, cars, golds, lapdances and hotel rooms accepted.

AFAIK, no schedule has been released for SCG events in 2013. This is also in the dead of winter, so plan accordingly (snow, cold, etc).

[Phelix]

AFAIK, no schedule has been released for SCG events in 2013. This is also in the dead of winter, so plan accordingly (snow, cold, etc).

Im from scandinavia. It will be like I never left home.

[.dk]

Im from scandinavia. It will be like I never left home.
hah, might be like summer for you!

[sdematt]

I'd defs be up for Thursday night ridiculousness. I figure fly out Thursday morning, get my stuff to the hotel, bender all day/night, maybe try to grind for buys Friday.

-Matt

[Richard Cheese]

I'd defs be up for Thursday night ridiculousness. I figure fly out Thursday morning, get my stuff to the hotel, bender all day/night, maybe try to grind for buys Friday.

-Matt

Unfortunately, by far the worst thing about the Crowne Plaza is that it's at least 15min from any kind of good food or drink, unless your idea of a hot night on the town is the bar at Applebees. So clearly what we need to be discussing here is not splitting rooms or weather conditions, but who's going to be DD for a bunch of nerds?

[sdematt]

Well, it depends how smashed we want to get. What are the Colorado driving rules about drinking and driving? Is it .08?

If it's 0.08, that's like what, 18 American beers?

-Matt

[Esper3k]

You could always just get a cab to/from the establishment you're going to if you're planning on some drunken debauchery.

[sdematt]

Nonsense, that sounds safe or something.

-Matt

[.dk]

Well, it depends how smashed we want to get. What are the Colorado driving rules about drinking and driving? Is it .08?

If it's 0.08, that's like what, 18 American beers?

-Matt

.08 for DUI, .05 for DWI. i.e. basically 1 drink. probably shouldn't do that... get a party bus!

[Phelix]

or a party plane?!?

WHOS WITH ME?!

[Esper3k]

Time off approved. Plane tickets booked!

[Richard Cheese]

Sweet! I'm going to try to take some time this weekend to start a list of good bars/restaurants/things to do.

[sdematt]

Excellent! If you could also try to find snow averages for this same week over the past five years as well, that'd help me out a bit. /Long story.

-Matt

[Koby]

Excellent! If you could also try to find snow averages for this same week over the past five years as well, that'd help me out a bit. /Long story.

-Matt

Snow ball fight. Team Mental Misstep vs Team Ban MM.

[csy]

Excellent! If you could also try to find snow averages for this same week over the past five years as well, that'd help me out a bit. /Long story.

-Matt


FFS, google that shit, http://bit.ly/R6DfTz

also yes, snowball fight, every person that cried about misstep is getting hit with white rocks. :P

[sdematt]

That wasn't an actual request. Just got into an argument about snowfalls and "how we're not going to get snowed in, you fucking idiot. I'm assuming Denver knows how to do this."

-Matt

[csy]

ohooohhhhh, gotcha.. disregard.

[Esper3k]

Is it worth me flying in at like 8 in the morning (ie, are there restaurants/things to see around where the GP is at) or should I keep my more comfortable flight that gets in at 2:00 or so?

[.dk]

unfortunately the event site is about 15-20 minutes from actual Denver. Which blows. you be the judge, i guess, but there is certainly a lot of good food and great beer/drinks in denver. trust whatever list Richard Cheese comes up with - he knows some great places and has exquisite taste in drinks.

[cdr]

You could check in to the hotel (or leave your bags at the desk) and bus/cab into Denver - there's plenty to do in the actual city, the site is in the middle of nowhere. There are some pretty decent fast food options across the street from the site which is nice for the tournament.

[Esper3k]

Thanks, I'll probably just keep my original plan then since it sounds like there isn't much around the GP location.

[sdematt]

I thought the plan was on the Thursday afternoon/evening we're doing a Source get together, so getting into town by 4pm on Thursday is probs where it's at.

-Matt

[Esper3k]

Ah, I won't be getting in until Friday, so I'll just have to meet up with people later.

[HoneyT]

The Honey Creek Crew will be there! (RandomxGestures and Myself (And he's only an honorary resident))

And my wonderful girlfriend I'm sure would be more than happy to DD for a few nerds ;)

FWIW the Source swag would be sweet too.

Cheers!

[rxavage]

Where exactly is the venue? I'm trying to price out flights and hotels so I can present "our" vacation to my wife.

[cdr]

Where exactly is the venue? I'm trying to price out flights and hotels so I can present "our" vacation to my wife.

https://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&cid=532995956182644592&q=Crowne+Plaza&iwloc=A&gl=US&hl=en

If you look 2 miles to the east you can see all the "airport" hotels, in case the Crowne doesn't have a good rate.

[rxavage]

https://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&cid=532995956182644592&q=Crowne+Plaza&iwloc=A&gl=US&hl=en

Thanks.

[archestraty]

Flight has been booked, see you guys there.

[sdematt]

I'm trying to persuade a significant other that the trip will be a fun vacation for both of us, not just her standing around for a few days watching me spend money I won't spend on her.

We'll see who has the upper hand in this argument.

-Matt

[Richard Cheese]

Stayed way too busy this weekend to start a list, so I'll get one going now. I'm just going to update my post on the first page, so it's easy to find later.

Edit: got it started. Will edit for readability and keep adding stuff later.

[coraz86]

I'm trying to persuade a significant other that the trip will be a fun vacation for both of us, not just her standing around for a few days watching me spend money I won't spend on her.

We'll see who has the upper hand in this argument.

-Matt

Dude, prime ski/snowboard season in prime ski/snowboard territory.

Also, possibly decent football and definitely decent basketball. (On which note; I'm going to try my best to get to this. If I can, anyone wants to hit the Nuggets game on 1/6, holla.)

[Esper3k]

Just booked my room at the Hyatt less than 1 mile away. After taxes, etc. it was about $250 for 3 nights and the reviews for the Hyatt were much better.

Here's the address if anyone else wants an alternative:

Hyatt Place Denver
16250 East 40th Avenue
Aurora, CO 80011‎

[Richard Cheese]

Dude, prime ski/snowboard season in prime ski/snowboard territory.

Also, possibly decent football and definitely decent basketball. (On which note; I'm going to try my best to get to this. If I can, anyone wants to hit the Nuggets game on 1/6, holla.)

Don't forget hockey as long as there's not another stupid lockout.

[r3dd09]

Last time I drove to Denver for an event, I got snowed in at Wyoming for 13 hours :/ Closed roads and everything, luckily my crew was able to crash in the gas station diner.

[Koby]

Just booked my room at the Hyatt less than 1 mile away. After taxes, etc. it was about $250 for 3 nights and the reviews for the Hyatt were much better.

Here's the address if anyone else wants an alternative:

Hyatt Place Denver
16250 East 40th Avenue
Aurora, CO 80011‎

Dittttooo

Party at the Hyatt.

[CorpT]

Wow, flights from Chicago were crazy cheap. Round trip for $140 was too good to pass up, so we're going too.

[Esper3k]

Dittttooo

Party at the Hyatt.

*high5*

Seriously, the Hyatt seems to have much better reviews than the Crowne Plaza and is cheaper too.

Plus, complimentary breakfast!

[sdematt]

But the breakfast isn't going to be great, I assume, meaning I'll have to pay for breakfast.

Very classy Eggs Benedict for breakfast or bust.

-Matt

[Esper3k]

Just means more money for dinner (and strip clubs).

[cdr]

Im seriously considering attending.

cant find SCG 2013 schedule anywhere. would love to at least double dip legacy if I skip continents for it.

anyone know? free couches, cars, golds, lapdances and hotel rooms accepted.

Star City announced 2013 (http://www.starcitygames.com/pages/scgop/schedule) during the SCG Invitational pretty much as expected. SCG Columbus the weekend of 5-6, SCG San Diego the weekend after.

[Richard Cheese]

See guys, we just got our first snow last night. There's nothing to worry about!

[Esper3k]

That's that fake story the government promotes about water freezing in the air, right?

[sdematt]

:P

I'm going to try to book my flight next week, since I've been overloaded with exams (and I didn't have to pay the overload cost!).

-Matt

[Richard Cheese]

That's that fake story the government promotes about water freezing in the air, right?

I blame Obama.

[Aggro_zombies]

I blame Obama.
Damn Democrats trying to take away my freedom with all their crazy climate whatever stories!

[Richard Cheese]

Damn Democrats trying to take away my freedom with all their crazy climate whatever stories!

I was 15min late to work this morning because of this shit. No wonder the economy is doing so badly!

[Esper3k]

Global warming is clearly a hoax because if it was getting warmer, then it wouldn't snow.

[Aggro_zombies]

I was 15min late to work this morning because of this shit. No wonder the economy is doing so badly!
This is clearly a failure to take personal responsibility for your life. You should be fired.

[Koby]

The subtext for the last page is heavily anti-politics. Let's keep it to Mish-mash please. (I don't disagree with the points)

As far as snow. FUCK! No whammies! *fingers crossed*

[Esper3k]

I'm just hoping WoTC doesn't last minute change the venue on us.

[sdematt]

If they change the venue...I can sue. I assume I can since it's America. I'm assuming Wizards will settle. I'll take the settlement in Beta duals do they don't have to payout in cash.

-Matt

[Esper3k]

If they change the venue...I can sue. I assume I can since it's America. I'm assuming Wizards will settle. I'll take the settlement in Beta duals do they don't have to payout in cash.

-Matt

But since it's America, you'll sue and your lawyer will get all the Beta duals :frown:

Just to keep the thread on track - has anyone heard / read any new info on GP Denver yet? The WoTC website still doesn't have anything on the event.

[sdematt]

I thought the event was at the Crowne Plaza thingy.

-Matt

[Koby]

My deck has been selected. I may be rocking Pink sleeves, for those that know what this means.

[r3dd09]

Wow, flights from Chicago were crazy cheap. Round trip for $140 was too good to pass up, so we're going too.

... it's 157 from Salt Lake. WTF?

I guess I need to start saving my cash so I can buy some beta duals, right Matt? ;)

[CorpT]

... it's 157 from Salt Lake. WTF?

I guess I need to start saving my cash so I can buy some beta duals, right Matt? ;)

Prices jumped quite a bit since then. Glad I got my tickets early.

[sdematt]

... it's 157 from Salt Lake. WTF?

I guess I need to start saving my cash so I can buy some beta duals, right Matt? ;)

Yes, better start, champ :)

So it's confirmed at 15500 Crowne Plaza, but the nice Hyatt is like 12 blocks away. What's the plan to get there if it snows? Just trudge through the snow? Maybe I'm used to the rural block system, which seems to be infinitely larger than regular block sizes.

-Matt

[Koby]

This might help out.

From: 15500 E 40th St - AKA Crowne Plaza Convention center
To: Hyatt Place Denver Airport

Total distance: 0.5 mi

http://goo.gl/maps/g7MCG

Make sure you book the right hotel tho.

[Esper3k]

Yeah unless Google lied to me, the Hyatt was supposed to be < 1 mile away from the Crowne Plaza (assuming WoTC has it there).

Even if it snows, I figure I can just burn some red mana and power on through.

[sdematt]

Ah, I was totally wrong on what I was doing. Oops.

Still, walking a kilometer with 40 pounds in cards might not be the best idea. I guess I'll have to trim what I bring to the convention centre.

-Matt

[r3dd09]

Was going to book my ticket today, and it's jumped 50 dollars in less than 48 hours. >.>

depending on my crew size, I might just drive.

[Richard Cheese]

If weather looks like it's going to be bad, we just need to arrange some carpools. I can ferry 4 people and their gear at a time (5 if there are a few skinny ones).

[sdematt]

If weather looks like it's going to be bad, we just need to arrange some carpools. I can ferry 4 people and their gear at a time (5 if there are a few skinny ones).

I'd be willing to chip in for gas if I can get in on a carpool if necessary :)

-Matt

[r3dd09]

I might be driving as 2 people * including myself* is better than plan tickets, cash wise.

also I can shuttle people. Most likely driving... How many times have I said this?

[Imaginasian]

Yes, better start, champ :)

So it's confirmed at 15500 Crowne Plaza, but the nice Hyatt is like 12 blocks away. What's the plan to get there if it snows? Just trudge through the snow? Maybe I'm used to the rural block system, which seems to be infinitely larger than regular block sizes.

-Matt

Do you happen to have a link to the page where it shows they announced it's at the Crowne Plaza? I assume it's going to be there because that's where SCG Denver was back in August and GP Denver 2011 was also there. I'd like to get confirmation for sure before booking anything. Thanks!

[sdematt]

Do you happen to have a link to the page where it shows they announced it's at the Crowne Plaza? I assume it's going to be there because that's where SCG Denver was back in August and GP Denver 2011 was also there. I'd like to get confirmation for sure before booking anything. Thanks!

I called Wizards, and they said they'll officially announce later on. Does anyone have an official link, because I haven't been able to actually find one when I looked last week.

-Matt

[cdr]

Do you happen to have a link to the page where it shows they announced it's at the Crowne Plaza? I assume it's going to be there because that's where SCG Denver was back in August and GP Denver 2011 was also there. I'd like to get confirmation for sure before booking anything. Thanks!

It hasn't been officially announced, but Helene (Director of Organized Play) said on twitter it was the Crowne.

[csy]

Yeah I asked on twitter and she confirmed it.

[r3dd09]

Anyone looking to still split a hotel?

[sdematt]

Anyone looking to still split a hotel?

Most likely. Email me and we'll coordinate.

If you can put up with 5am wakeup calls, we're golden.

-Matt

[Esper3k]

So...

Colorado legalized recreational use of marijuana...

[Richard Cheese]

Fucking right we did!

[sdematt]

So...

Colorado legalized recreational use of marijuana...

When does that come into effect? If you think we're Beta Cubing with pot smoke around, I think you're going to have a bad time :cool:

-Matt

[.dk]

Retail locations and regulations are supposed to be in place by 2014. Which means the next legislative session in Colorado in January is going to need to figure out how it is going to work.

As far as possession goes, Gov. Hickenlooper just needs to sign off on the vote. An article with some more details:

http://www.dailycamera.com/ci_21949542

[sdematt]

Flight booked for $198. Wewt.

-Matt

[sdematt]

There are currently seven slots left for Beta Cube. If you're wanting in, post now. First trust, then first come is first served.

Also, is there an event going on for Thursday night? I booked a flight in for Thursday so I could attend. If there's no event, I'll be sad.

-Matt

[Richard Cheese]

There are currently seven slots left for Beta Cube. If you're wanting in, post now. First trust, then first come is first served.

Also, is there an event going on for Thursday night? I booked a flight in for Thursday so I could attend. If there's no event, I'll be sad.

-Matt

Yeah we've been talking to I Want More Comics about doing an event. The only problem is that there really isn't an LGS anywhere near where people are going to be staying, and all the good bars and nightlife aren't close to either. We'll pull something off, there might just be a lot of cruising around.

[sdematt]

Yeah we've been talking to I Want More Comics about doing an event. The only problem is that there really isn't an LGS anywhere near where people are going to be staying, and all the good bars and nightlife aren't close to either. We'll pull something off, there might just be a lot of cruising around.

Excellent.

But the question remains, who's in for the Beta Cube, and for what day? If we do Saturday night, whoever doesn't make Day 2 can join in and wash our sorrows away by playing interesting formats.

-Matt

[Ziveeman]

Where'd you book your flight Matt? I am split between GP: Denver and the SCG: LA Invitational. Currently leaning toward GP: Denver since SCG guaranteed Legacy Opens for 2013, but this is the only North American Legacy GP until August. Plus I don't have to playtest Standard which would be nice.

[Koby]

GP Denver Venue is Crowne Plaza

NOT Crowne Plaza Denver Airport.

Address is:
1450 Glenarm Place
Denver, CO 80202

NOT NOT NOT NOT
15500 East 40th Avenue
Denver, CO 80239

[Esper3k]

GP Denver Venue is Crowne Plaza

NOT Crowne Plaza Denver Airport.

Address is:
1450 Glenarm Place
Denver, CO 80202

NOT NOT NOT NOT
15500 East 40th Avenue
Denver, CO 80239

GDI. Where did you find this from? I still am not able to find any useful information from the Wizards site.

[Koby]

GDI. Where did you find this from? I still am not able to find any useful information from the Wizards site.

@HeleneBergeot on Twitter.

[Esper3k]

Damnit, I had gotten the nonrefundable rate too.

Guess I'm getting a rental car!

[Koby]

Damnit, I had gotten the nonrefundable rate too.

Guess I'm getting a rental car!

Fight the man. Call out the company on social media. There should be no reason to stonewall prepaying customers like this.

[sdematt]

@ My Flight

I booked on Expedia.



Fight the man. Call out the company on social media. There should be no reason to stonewall prepaying customers like this.

I was literally just about to book. Oh look, this one's infinitely more expensive. Fucking dicks.

Koby, are you guys rebooking?

-Matt

[Warr]

I don't think there's any other information up on the mothership yet but the TO's site also has info as well:

http://legionevents.com/magic_gp/grand-prix-denver-co

Of particular interest to me:

Artists:

Dan Frazier, Steve Argyle and Chris Rahn!

:laugh: But I'll be a little tapped out after flying home for the holidays :cry:

[cdr]

GP Denver Venue is Crowne Plaza

NOT Crowne Plaza Denver Airport.

Address is:
1450 Glenarm Place
Denver, CO 80202

NOT NOT NOT NOT
15500 East 40th Avenue
Denver, CO 80239

Are you positive? Legion Events says Crowne Plaza DIA, and having it at the downtown Crowne would make no sense - the downtown Crowne is not a convention center.

[Koby]

Helene Bergeot (@HeleneBergeot)
11/8/12, 1:22 PM

Venue for GP Denver (Jan 5-6): Crowne Plaza, 1450 Glemarm Place.
Venue for GP Houston (June 15-16): George R. Brown Convention Center

Jacob Kory (@MTGKoby)
11/8/12, 1:29 PM

@HeleneBergeot There are two venues in Denver called Crowne Plaza. In the past 15500 E 40th was the location. Can you double check?

Helene Bergeot (@HeleneBergeot)
11/8/12, 1:58 PM

@MTGKoby Double checked... The address I tweeted is the one confirmed by the organizer

[cdr]

99% someone at Legion is wrong and feeding her bad info. The downtown Crowne is not a venue, if it was downtown the venue would be the Colorado Convention Center.

[troopatroop]

pot baggie?

[Koby]

Cdr I agree with you, which is why Im skeptical of Helene's announcement. Ive email Steve with Legion Events to clarify. Ill update here and twitter when i find out.

[cdr]

Steve Port just tweeted, Airport is correct, Helene had bad info.

[r3dd09]

Steve Port just tweeted, Airport is correct, Helene had bad info.

Same location as last year then? the 15500 address or what ever it is.

[cdr]

Same location as last year then? the 15500 address or what ever it is.

Yes. Crowne Plaza Airport.

[Lord Seth]

I haven't gone to a Grand Prix before. Is it better to book your return Sunday night or Monday morning? I'm not really sure how late these things go.

[r3dd09]

I haven't gone to a Grand Prix before. Is it better to book your return Sunday night or Monday morning? I'm not really sure how late these things go.

You can do what ever, really. I usually stay a day or two after the gp ends and leave on monday or tuesday.

[cdr]

I haven't gone to a Grand Prix before. Is it better to book your return Sunday night or Monday morning? I'm not really sure how late these things go.

The top 8 rarely goes past 7PM or so Sunday. Some people book Sunday evening and then rebook if they make T8, figuring they can afford it.

The one positive to the middle-of-nowhere location is you're 10 mins from the airport.

[sdematt]

Holy hell. Are we sure, before I rebook my hotel for a third time?

Also, it's probably cheaper to fly out Monday.

-Matt

[Esper3k]

Woo yeah, I saw Helene Bergeot's tweets that Koby saw. Hopefully it turns out to be at the airport Crowne Plaza.

I'm flying out Monday simply because I hate flying out late then having to go to work the next day.

[cdr]

Holy hell. Are we sure, before I rebook my hotel for a third time?

Also, it's probably cheaper to fly out Monday.

-Matt

100% sure.

a) There was no way it could be downtown in the first place.

b) The TO confirmed it was the Crowne airport convention center, which is who Helene was supposedly getting her info from in the first place.

[csy]

I don't often smoke pot. But as of dec 6th Colorado has done the right thing and legalized it. I look forward to walking around Denver blazing.

[Richard Cheese]

Can someone please tell me if anything important shows up on the Legion site? I have to close it immediately every time I see it because of Comic Sans.

[Koby]

Can someone please tell me if anything important shows up on the Legion site? I have to close it immediately every time I see it because of Comic Sans.

True American hero!

[cdr]

http://i.imgur.com/C26Ad.png

[Richard Cheese]

True American hero!

http://achewood.com/comic.php?date=07052007

[Koby]

It just dawned on me that any deck playing basics should be running Snow covered basics considering well be on planet Hoth for this GP. Just do it.

[Julian23]

Are you sure?

http://i.imgur.com/XzpD7.jpg

[cdr]

It just dawned on me that any deck playing basics should be running Snow covered basics considering well be on planet Hoth for this GP. Just do it.

Early January in Denver is, on average, 60F with little to no snow on the ground. Barring a blizzard (which does happen every few years), not quite Hoth.

[SpikeyMikey]

Besides, Lincoln is Hoth. You have to have a desolate landscape with no civilization for hundreds of miles. Denver doesn't qualify.

[Richard Cheese]

Besides, Lincoln is Hoth. You have to have a desolate landscape with no civilization for hundreds of miles. Denver doesn't qualify.

Uhh...don't look East while you're at the venue.

[topef27]

Does anyone know where I can find a schedule for this event? Or does anyone know if there are events happening on Friday, as well as the main event Saturday/Sunday?

[cdr]

Does anyone know where I can find a schedule for this event? Or does anyone know if there are events happening on Friday, as well as the main event Saturday/Sunday?

I don't think Legion is releasing anything until after GP San Antonio this weekend.

There are always grinders and side events Friday at a GP.

[Esper3k]

The only thing I see so far is here: http://legionevents.com/magic_gp/grand-prix-denver-co

Maybe we can get an update to put this link on the first page of this thread?

[topef27]

I don't think Legion is releasing anything until after GP San Antonio this weekend.

There are always grinders and side events Friday at a GP.

So would a grinder on Friday possibly earn you byes in the main event, since it is an open registration tournament?

[cdr]

So would a grinder on Friday possibly earn you byes in the main event, since it is an open registration tournament?

That's what grinders are, yes - 32 person, single elimination events that award 3 byes to the winner.

[r3dd09]

Any chance we can do a Source mat for the event? Possibly just get more copies of the last one? *Yes, I'm persistent at wanting a Source mat ;)*

[cdr]

Any chance we can do a Source mat for the event? Possibly just get more copies of the last one? *Yes, I'm persistent at wanting a Source mat ;)*

I hate to disappoint people, but it's unlikely at this point in time.

[r3dd09]

I hate to disappoint people, but it's unlikely at this point in time.

Thought that'd be the case, especially with how last time people weren't allowed to play with the mats.

Can we still look into making more?

[cdr]

Thought that'd be the case, especially with how last time people weren't allowed to play with the mats.

Can we still look into making more?

The problem is with me; I haven't had the time/motivation to do it. It takes a fair amount of lead time to produce a design and have them printed.

It's true that the old design (or similar) can't be used, but there are a couple of ideas that don't use WotC copyrights.

[sdematt]

So how's the organization of a Thursday night Sourcers event going? We could also just go out and have some food and drinks, and maybe trade a bit beforehand. Whatever works.

-Matt

[warfordium]

just booked a flight.

Denverites, how much should I expect to pay for a cab from the GP hotel to the airport?

[cdr]

just booked a flight.

Denverites, how much should I expect to pay for a cab from the GP hotel to the airport?

There's a hotel shuttle, unless you have time constraints or something.

[r3dd09]

just booked a flight.

Denverites, how much should I expect to pay for a cab from the GP hotel to the airport?

Depending on where you're staying; some hotels provide free driving within a 6 mile radium.

Worst comes to worst, Shuttle from the gp hotel to the airport, then get a shuttle from there to your hotel. I did that last time.

[sdematt]

I'm wondering if the hotel serves lobster and avocado Eggs Benedict. Had that the other day, man was that great.

-Matt

[sdematt]

Byes secured for Denver!

-Matt

[zeagle]

Byes secured for Denver!

-Matt

Congrats! Was this at Craving for a Game? Do you mind me asking how many people showed up? I wanted to attend, but I don't have the proper travel documents yet. :frown:


Zach

[Rock Lee]

Byes secured for Denver!

-Matt

Ditto to me. Byes <3

Am I the only nerd who got excited about rooting out Pendleton's Elves in the Nature & Science Museum or eating some more Authentic Korean BBQ in lieu of Bars and Breweries?

[lochlan]

I have byes but I don't know how to get there. Is anybody from Portland or Seattle who has a car interested in driving? (Sounds awful, I know.)

[sdematt]

The flights are under $200. Fly if possible.

-Matt

[ESG]

I have byes but I don't know how to get there. Is anybody from Portland or Seattle who has a car interested in driving? (Sounds awful, I know.)

Fly if possible. I just checked Google maps out of curiosity, and the estimation was 23 hours. Also, there was this:

Continue to follow Co Rd 62/Geneva Rd
This road may be seasonally closed

Since this event will be in Denver in the heart of winter, there could be lots of roads closed.

[lochlan]

Very good point about road closures, ESG, thanks for the heads up. Maybe I'll just bite the bullet and buy a plane ticket, but they're like $300 from Portland--if they were $200, it would be a lot easier.

[Esper3k]

Ditto to me. Byes <3

Am I the only nerd who got excited about rooting out Pendleton's Elves in the Nature & Science Museum or eating some more Authentic Korean BBQ in lieu of Bars and Breweries?

I'm lucky enough to be in a city where there's a fairly decent Korean community so there's no shortage of Korean BBQ, but I'm adding to the opinion that it's awesome.

[zeagle]

Very good point about road closures, ESG, thanks for the heads up. Maybe I'll just bite the bullet and buy a plane ticket, but they're like $300 from Portland--if they were $200, it would be a lot easier.

If you can plan on returning on Monday, you can save a bunch on airfare. I see a round trip itinerary for $217, fly down on 1/4 with Frontier and return on 1/7 with Southwest.

[bfeingersh]

Does anyone have a hotel room looking for more people to split the cost with? I'm willing to floor it. Very few of my local friends are making the trip so I don't want to get my own room. I would need space to sleep for friday and saturday nights, I'm flying out sunday night.

[Rock Lee]

Does anyone have a hotel room looking for more people to split the cost with? I'm willing to floor it. Very few of my local friends are making the trip so I don't want to get my own room. I would need space to sleep for friday and saturday nights, I'm flying out sunday night.

I am going solo, so I'd have room. Booking at the Crown Plaza. jer.rudolph@gmail.com for details.

[Griselpuff]

I am also looking to split rooms (I emailed Rock Lee). PM me if interested!

[sdematt]

Aka,
I don't think I'm going to be able to help you out.

-Matt

[Richard Cheese]

Ok, as far as Thursday night goes, I think we should decide on doing a Legacy event or a food/drink meetup, but not both. The majority of our local player base is going to have a hard time making it to anything earlier than 6pm, and at that point even a small event is going to run to 10-11pm, and like I said before, none of the LGSs here are really within close proximity to any nightlife. Doesn't mean it can't happen, but I'm guessing a lot of locals will also have to work the next day and probably bail on any late-night drinking shenanigans. I guess if there are a ton of people getting into town early on Thursday and really want to play a sanctioned event, I can set something up with one of the stores during the daytime, and the Denver/Boulder/etc. crew could just join up later.

Just so I have an idea of where to go, how many people are interested in meeting up on Thursday? What time are you getting in? If you had to choose, would you rather have a Legacy event or just go for some food and drink? What kind of food/drink do you like?

[sdematt]

I'd just be fine with a meet and greet anyways where we could mingle. A restaurant may be difficult, so I was thinking a games store for that purpose.

I agree that it should be one or the other, but not both. I'd rather NOT play Legacy, since we'll grind that all weekend anyway.

For food? Anything's fine.

-Matt

[Richard Cheese]

I guess it depends on how many people are showing interest, I know there are plenty of places that can accept a small crowd.

[Griselpuff]

Any predictions regarding turnout? $30,000/750 players = $40 registration fee, and that seems reasonable (Atlanta got 900 and Indianapolis and Providence both got 1,200).

Also, I'm still looking for a room so please PM me if you're interested in splitting one. Happy to sleep on the ground as I'm a small college student.

[Richard Cheese]

So is it just me and Matt hanging out Thursday?

[Esper3k]

So is it just me and Matt hanging out Thursday?

Could be? Dho and I aren't getting in until Friday.

[Richard Cheese]

Would people be up for something on Friday, or is everyone going to play grinders then try to get a good night's rest before Saturday?

[r3dd09]

I'm probably having 9 fly in from Utah. But they don't want to leave until later on thursday.

[.dk]

Definitely down for a thursday meet up! Might be ok with Friday a bit too, unless I end up grinding into oblivion... well even then maybe. :)

[Tammit67]

Trying to make the trip on Friday if at all

[lochlan]

My flight is booked, I will be going. Now to just figure out what I want to play...

[Zakman86]

Booked my flight/hotel room yesterday. I'll be there, no byes.

I may be down for a meetup on Friday, just depends on what time since there's a judge conference.

[sdematt]

I'm coming in an extra day early to do a Sourcers meetup, so some people better fucking show up.

-Matt

[lochlan]

I'm coming in an extra day early to do a Sourcers meetup, so some people better fucking show up.

I'm flying in on Thursday but my flight doesn't land until 10:20. I'd be down to meet up sometime after that. I'm staying at the Hyatt.

[sdematt]

Considering everyone's staying at the Hyatt, we could just do something at the hotel.

-Matt

[Zakman86]

Considering everyone's staying at the Hyatt, we could just do something at the hotel.

-Matt

Not everyone :P

[Richard Cheese]

I'm coming in an extra day early to do a Sourcers meetup, so some people better fucking show up.

-Matt

Hey if nothing else you can come to my place and we can drown our sorrows in bourbon.

[zeagle]

I'm coming in an extra day early to do a Sourcers meetup, so some people better fucking show up.

-Matt


My friends and I will be there Thursday but I am not exactly a seasoned Sourcer, yet.

Zach

[Richard Cheese]

My friends and I will be there Thursday but I am not exactly a seasoned Sourcer, yet.

Zach

Time to pop that cherry!

Question for people interested in Thursday, would you rather meet up at a relatively generic spot that's close to the hotel, or take the extra trouble of going into town to find something a bit more interesting?

[Ziveeman]

I hope I can meet up. Arriving Wednesday night, I'll be staying with a friend (and getting rides from him and stuff) and I don't know if he'd want to tag along.

[Koby]

Considering everyone's staying at the Hyatt, we could just do something at the hotel.

-Matt

Seconded.

[nedleeds]

I didn't want to go but everyone going is making me want to go.

[Koby]

I didn't want to go but everyone going is making me want to go.

There will be at least 1 complete Vintage deck in tow. I challenge your fair (GW/x) decks to a duel.

[nedleeds]

There will be at least 1 complete Vintage deck in tow. I challenge your fair (GW/x) decks to a duel.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0YDuSLXcX8

[Dyvith]

Debating if I want to go or not. Jeremiah, should have told me you were going!

Komar

[sdematt]

Damnit nedleeds, you're coming whether you like it or not, just book your ticket. You know you want to.

-Matt

[Richard Cheese]

Seconded.

Where's your sense of adventure?! I say we meet somewhere with a great beer list and good food and that's centrally located. I know a lot of people are going to be at the Hyatt, but there are a handful of locals that will probably come out, and let's be honest, there's really nothing worth seeing by the Hyatt besides a dizzying array of chain restaurants. If there are multiple people splitting a cab, it's usually pretty cheap, and we can possibly talk about rides from locals.

One decent option might be Rackhouse Pub, which is part of a local whiskey distillery. It's got a good amount of space, is near downtown, the food is decent (although they refuse to fry anything, pussies), they have a good selection of beers, and they have whiskey flights.

I can handle making reservations or suggesting a variety of other places, but it's hard for me to do that without having a more concrete idea of who's planning on coming out. If it's a small group, maybe we find something more adventurous (Freshcraft, Euclid Hall, Wazee Supper Club, etc.), or something more low-key (Atomic Cowboy, Goosetown Tavern, Providence Tavern, My Brother's Bar, etc.). Still hard to say at this point.

Right now, I count these people for a Thursday meetup:

sdematt
lolchlan (after ~10:30pm?)
me
.dk
Koby
Zeagle?
Ziveeman?
r3dd09 +9?

[Koby]

Where's your sense of adventure?!

I get into Denver at 9 PM friday, so I don't have much adventure time as I would like. I only realized after I bought my plane ticket that I could take the whole day off. :(