BUG Vengevine (Carrots)

[HoneyT]

BUG VENGEVINE A.K.A. "Carrots"

This is the deck I've been developing lately. I'll update this post with a small primer when I get time. Enjoy!

Decklist:

Lands (21):

1 Academy Ruins
2 Bayou
1 Dryad Arbor
2 Forest
2 Island
4 Misty Rainforest
1 Swamp
3 Tropical Island
1 Underground Sea
4 Verdant Catacombs

Creatures (29):

1 Wild Mongrel
4 Baleful Strix
2 Birds of Paradise
4 Fauna Shaman
1 Memnite
2 Noble Hierarch
2 Phantasmal Image
1 Quirion Ranger
4 Shardless Agent
1 Tarmogoyf
1 Trinket Mage
4 Vengevine
1 Veteran Explorer
1 Wonder

Spells (10):

3 Cabal Therapy
4 Force of Will
3 Intuition

Sideboard (15):

1 Angel of Despair
1 Engineered Explosives
1 Engineered Plague
1 Grindstone
1 Nihil Spellbomb
1 Painter's Servant
1 Scavenging Ooze
4 Thoughtseize
1 Tormod's Crypt
1 Umezawa's Jitte
2 Vendilion Clique

[B4nnar]

There are many variations of such (more B oriented for Burried Alive; or U one for Wonder and Intuition).

Lotleth Troll > Wild Mongrel.
Deathrite Shaman might be a good addition to this deck as well. I myself prefer B/G VV with Squee goblin.
Carefull Study might fit nicely as well.

Why "Carrots"?

[Philipp2293]

Since you're running Fauna Shamans, I would consider one Esperzoa as target. It's a solid beater which helps you recycle Strixes and Agents (works with Memnite in emergencies).

[HoneyT]

Yes, when Lotleth Troll comes out, it will replace Wild Mongrel.

Esperzoa is probably cute enough to test out actually.

The deck is called Carrots because every Legacy deck deserves a stupid name. The origin of this one is simple: Vengevine is a vegetable. A carrot was the first vegetable to pop in my head. Simple!

[Goaswerfraiejen]

What about Gravecrawler? It seems to fit the profile perfectly, especially with Lotleth Troll, Intuition, and the Cascade mechanic (because you cascade into some sort of Zombie and can then recast a Gravecrawler to bring in the Vengevines).

EDIT: Actually, I forgot Cascade still casts the card. So Gravecrawler has even more synergy!

[B4nnar]

Burried Alive > Intuition in such deck (creature oriented one).

-2 BoP / +2 Deathrite Shaman
-1 Veteran; -1 Trinket Mage; -1 Memnite; -1 Fauna Shaman / +4 Gravecrawler
-2 Phantasmal Image; -1 Wild Mongrel / +3 Lotleth Troll
-1 Academy Ruins / +1 Volrath's Stronghold

[Goaswerfraiejen]

I've been spinning a version on MWS this morning, and it's quite powerful. In fact, between Careful Study, Rootwalla, and Gravecrawler, I can usually have a Vine or two attacking on the second turn, which is just awesome.

The big problem, however, is combatting graveyard hate. We can play around it, to an extent, but need to develop a more systematic and coherent strategy post-board.

[HoneyT]

@B4nnar

I think you're trying to take this deck in a slightly different direction. Not necessarily worse, but different. You also need to mess with the mana to play your version. Black is only a really light splash right now. In my version, Intuition is far more powerful. It increases the blue count for Force, I can use it as a tutor for any card I need to hand, and can find 3 Cabal Therapies in a pinch.

@Goaswerfraiejen

I've messed around with Rootwallas and the like and I'm just not a fan. Sometimes you get hands where you just have a bunch of 1/1's that don't do anything. I've been a fan of playing individually powerful cards that happen to synergize very well together. This deck has potential for some combo-esque hands, but is really good at adapting to be the aggro or the control plan.

Grave hate can be a problem post board if we let it. Obviously against a deck packing hate, we're not going to run out an Intuition for a bunch of Vengevine's just to get them Surgical Extractioned. That's where things like Vendillion Clique and Painter's Servant/Grindstone come into play. Along with just casting some vegetables and beating down.

[Richard Cheese]

Yes, when Lotleth Troll comes out, it will replace Wild Mongrel.

Esperzoa is probably cute enough to test out actually.

The deck is called Carrots because every Legacy deck deserves a stupid name. The origin of this one is simple: Vengevine is a vegetable. A carrot was the first vegetable to pop in my head. Simple!

Isn't Vengevine more of a vine? Is he even edible? I would consider the following possibilities over Carrots:

Virginia Creeper
Hops
Kudzu
Ivy / Poison Ivy
Wisteria
Vitis Vinifera

[HoneyT]

Isn't Vengevine more of a vine? Is he even edible? I would consider the following possibilities over Carrots:

Virginia Creeper
Hops
Kudzu
Ivy / Poison Ivy
Wisteria
Vitis Vinifera

I toyed with the idea of Spinach for awhile. Brussel Sprouts also came to mind. Hops sounds fun though. The others sound too scientific/difficult. Something short and catchy sounds more appealing to me.

[John Cox]

The deck is called Carrots because every Legacy deck deserves a stupid name. The origin of this one is simple: Vengevine is a vegetable. A carrot was the first vegetable to pop in my head. Simple!

I disagree with that.


Isn't Vengevine more of a vine? Is he even edible? I would consider the following possibilities over Carrots:

Virginia Creeper
Hops
Kudzu
Ivy / Poison Ivy
Wisteria
Vitis Vinifera

What about,
Sweet pea
Grape
Climbing Rose
morning glory
cucumber

You could also use vine related names like trellis or pergola. If your a Terry Goodkind fan Snake Root could work also.

also


Kudzu
This is already a magic card( kudzu )and may cause confusion.

[TerribleTim68]

...The deck is called Carrots because every Legacy deck deserves a stupid name. The origin of this one is simple: Vengevine is a vegetable. A carrot was the first vegetable to pop in my head. Simple!

For what it's worth, I like "Carrots" as the name. Problem is, it doesn't matter what you play at a big event. They just enter the name they want to call it when they enter it in the computer. The reality is, if you took this deck to say, an SCG open, they would list it as BUG Vengevine, not Carrots. Which is sad because we need some character to this crap. :frown: