View Full Version : [Judge Promo] Swords to Plowshares (new frame)
Lemnear
01-25-2013, 10:04 AM
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=139215&d=1359117865
Seriously? Is this really needed? Foil Swords already exist as promo and normal swords are about 2€. There is no need to increase the amount of pimp on the market.
We NEED FoW goddamn
alphastryk
01-25-2013, 10:14 AM
Ugh, seriously? It doesn't even look good. We already had an old border foil!
TsumiBand
01-25-2013, 11:00 AM
Swords to 3-woods?
Einherjer
01-25-2013, 11:01 AM
I gotta admit that I like that artwork - but still - new border, bluuurgh.
Greetings
jrw1985
01-25-2013, 11:02 AM
Swords to 3-woods?
FOREs to Plowshares
TsumiBand
01-25-2013, 11:06 AM
Honestly I can't stand old frames anymore. I wrote a 1538-page letter to Wizards went it happened - this was like, 10 months after I started playing , so of course I raged about it - but man did I get over it quickly. Especially the bit about emphasizing power and toughness in the way that they have; in retrospect on older cards, p/t looks like an afterthought, something that just gets jammed in the corner and forgotten, because you'd rather be playing Black and Blue spells anyway.
I stand by my golf club comment. It looks like a driver.
FOREs to Plowshares
haha yes. much better.
Now all I want to see is an alternate StP art based on this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZ8t_7OII0k
Lemnear
01-25-2013, 11:15 AM
FOREs to Plowshares
Swords to Golf Club
Personally I dislike the new card frame and have since they started using it, but that's besides the point here.
I love foils and I collect foil sets and love to play them and show them off to people, and nothing gives me more pleasure that beating someone in the face with my all foil Death and Taxes deck... at least as foil as it can be without looking ugly, ie: the judge Karakas. I hate the Karakas mainly because of the enormous and hideous shooting star across half the card, it's over done. I would've wanted a set of them if the shooting star wasn't obnoxious, but tastefully done such as the old frame foils, set foils, or even the way they did the stars for grand prix where the set symbol goes. Just ugly across the whole text box, so because of that my Death and Taxes deck has a set of FNM StP and a set of foil Ports and a set of MPR wastelands, the awesome foils, you know, not the ugly Karakas. 71 of 75 cards foil is better than 75 of 75 if it means not playing the judge karakas. The picture on the judge swords is fine, just not iconic for the card that everyone loves, but the non-selling point for many I know and I'm sure many of you guys/gals on the Source, is the star across the text box like that.
End of rant about the hideous judge promo shooting stars... at least until they make another one of my favorite cards ugly with it.
The Treefolk Master
01-25-2013, 11:32 AM
The art looks like a blurred picture of Tiger Woods.
There's already a foil version (this takes the exclusiveness aways, although the old frame and original art put the other version way above this one), I think there are far better options for Judge Promos, Force of Will being the elephant in the room.
I do like the fact that they are giving older cards Judge Promo treatment. A small part of me still has hope for a Reserve List abolishment and the consequential flourishing of the best format in Magic.
(nameless one)
01-25-2013, 12:20 PM
I wish they just used the Terese Nielsen art. That would look awesome in foil.
Aggro_zombies
01-25-2013, 12:56 PM
Wow that art is ugly.
nedleeds
01-25-2013, 01:03 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHA here you go buddy thanks for all your hardwork! A $5.00 turd foil. :cry:
A judge could work as a 3rd world farm laborer for better pay off.
WotC: we need non-foil Korean old border judge promos! Now! Pay these people!
Old brown bordered non-foil Korean Chalice of the Void / 3ball / Lodestone Golem / Blightsteel (Grrr!) would be insta $200.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-T29BlwP9PBo/T5WHCoM4c_I/AAAAAAAAAHM/0vKeKBtX0Pc/s640/Chalice+of+the+Void.png
lordofthepit
01-25-2013, 01:30 PM
- Art looks like someone threw up
- Modern frame
- Foiled
That's three strikes. Disgusting.
HAHAHAHAHAHA here you go buddy thanks for all your hardwork! A $5.00 turd foil. :cry:
A judge could work as a 3rd world farm laborer for better pay off.
WotC: we need non-foil Korean old border judge promos! Now! Pay these people!
Old brown bordered non-foil Korean Chalice of the Void / 3ball / Lodestone Golem / Blightsteel (Grrr!) would be insta $200.
Dont forget Crucible of Worlds. A card designed by players deserves to be in old brown frame.
trevaftw
01-25-2013, 04:06 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHA here you go buddy thanks for all your hardwork! A $5.00 turd foil. :cry:
WotC: we need non-foil Korean old border judge promos! Now! Pay these people!
Old brown bordered non-foil Korean Chalice of the Void / 3ball / Lodestone Golem / Blightsteel (Grrr!) would be insta $200.
So you're choosing Korean over non-Foil? Ew. I can't stand foreign cards and people who use them annoy the crap outta me. At least foiling adds life to the card.
Rock Lee
01-25-2013, 04:18 PM
Can't believe all the tears and crying here. I like the stp promo. Gives two options to a staple that will exist indefinitely. Amazing what people will weep and whine about.
Megadeus
01-25-2013, 04:31 PM
I like the effect that the picture gives. It's definitely different. I do agree that the shooting star is kinda Meh. But I mean its still a unique art to Magic.
kingsey
01-25-2013, 07:39 PM
Beta swords to plow has the most class.:laugh:
Adryan
01-25-2013, 07:42 PM
The art is awesome :smile::smile:
FieryBalrog
01-25-2013, 08:08 PM
Recently picked up an FNM foil swords, this doesn't really make me regret that decision
old border, ABU artwork + John Milton quote > new border, dark blurry foil, random EvT duel deck quote
saspook
01-25-2013, 09:30 PM
It is a neat idea for a foil, and it probably looks really nice in person (minus the hideous shooting star). But the Elspeth Vs. Tezz StP is just so much better.
This is up there with Goblin Welder as a bad judge reward promo.
Barook
01-26-2013, 06:34 AM
I can understand that people are pissed. But stuff like Bribery isn't exactly high money tier, either.
Judge FoW would be pretty nice, but it would definitely have the new frame and shitty, new art (see MTGO promo FoW).
Imperial Recruiter is money, though. I also wonder how much a JMS would pull off if it was released as Judge Foil, considering the ridiculous foil prices.
TsumiBand
01-26-2013, 11:25 AM
Guys. Where are my Dogma Swords to Plowshares? I haven't pursued the endeavor in any way and they haven't fallen out of the sky yet. That's bullshit.
Nothing like the good old Ice Age StP.
Mockingbird
01-26-2013, 01:28 PM
Personally, my favorite art of Swords to Plowshares is the Duel Deck version art from Elspeth vs. Tezzeret. This one is alright, but my problem is that it's too literal. I still like it... alright, but I'm going to classify this as one of the promos where Wizards goes over the top... like with the Judge Promo Land Tax.
(nameless one)
01-26-2013, 06:48 PM
I like the Promo Land Tax. It feels very abstract to me.
TheInfamousBearAssassin
01-26-2013, 07:19 PM
Ugh, seriously? It doesn't even look good. We already had an old border foil!
baghdadbob
01-26-2013, 07:48 PM
Not feeling it.
nedleeds
01-27-2013, 12:59 PM
I can't stand foreign cards and people who use them annoy the crap outta me. At least foiling adds life to the card.
Walk us through how foil equates to 'life' ... do you mean warping and marking?
I'm glad you are annoyed by non-english cards, always fun to get on the nerves of somebody who doesn't know the card pool.
TsumiBand
01-27-2013, 01:12 PM
Walk us through how foil equates to 'life' ... do you mean warping and marking?
I'm glad you are annoyed by non-english cards, always fun to get on the nerves of somebody who doesn't know the card pool.
Foils do suck, but honestly I could do without the hard-on for non-'native language' cards. It's no different than the oddball textless cards that got released for a time. Textless Lightning Bolt is rad, but it's also one of Magic's oldest cards. Textless Cryptic Command? Fuck you.
There's not much difference in my mind from a textless card and a foreign card. It'll never happen, but I do wish people would consider ubiquity when playing with foreigns.
Octopusman
02-04-2013, 04:36 PM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-T29BlwP9PBo/T5WHCoM4c_I/AAAAAAAAAHM/0vKeKBtX0Pc/s640/Chalice+of+the+Void.png
This is the hottest thing I've ever seen.
I just like seeing staples as judges rewards but I like it when they are also expensive cards so that it can sometimes help with supply. Cool StP art, though. I'd rather see it in an old frame.
AEnesidem
02-04-2013, 06:33 PM
Foils do suck, but honestly I could do without the hard-on for non-'native language' cards. It's no different than the oddball textless cards that got released for a time. Textless Lightning Bolt is rad, but it's also one of Magic's oldest cards. Textless Cryptic Command? Fuck you.
There's not much difference in my mind from a textless card and a foreign card. It'll never happen, but I do wish people would consider ubiquity when playing with foreigns.
I once lost a game because of small details i missed on a foreign card: a japanese or korean Porphyry nodes. Since then i call a judge each time someone plays a foreign card i have the slightest doubt about, That ennoys the crap out of them.
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