[M14] Spoiler discussion

[Barook]

Let's start!

There are better ways in Legacy to cheat Griselbrand into play, but it's an interesting design nonetheless:

Shadowborn Apostle :b:
Creature-Human Cleric
A deck can have any number of cards named Shadowborn Apostle.
:b:, sacrifice six creatures named Shadowborn Apostle: Search your library for a demon creature and put it onto the battlefield. Then shuffle your library.
1/1

[Chikenbok]

3BB - Shadowborn Demon
Creature - Demon (Mythic Rare)
Flying
When Shadowborn Demon enters the battlefield, destroy target non-Demon creature.
At the beginning of your upkeep, if there are fewer than six creature cards in your graveyard, sacrifice a creature.
5/6

And another winner!!!


Staff of the Wild Magus
3
Artifact
Whenever you cast a green spell or a Forest enters the battlefield under your control you may gain 1 life.

[DrJones]

Totally worthless. It doesn't matter how many copies of that creature you can have in your deck, only how many cards in hand you can have at a given time. It looks like they really, really wanted to make it unplayable, because 4 copies is already asking too much.

The demon looks cool and I like how it subtly references this card. Though there are better demons (and dragons) at that cost, so I don't think it will see play.

[Nihil Credo]

Well I guess Thrumming Stone can now go into two casual decks. And this time it may even bring Bloodbond March along for the ride to break the monotony a bit.

I do like that having a ton of expendable minions work well with most Demons and not just with the one in M14.

[rufus]

Totally worthless. It doesn't matter how many copies of that creature you can have in your deck, only how many cards in hand you can have at a given time. It looks like they really, really wanted to make it unplayable, because 4 copies is already asking too much.

The demon looks cool and I like how it subtly references this card. Though there are better demons (and dragons) at that cost, so I don't think it will see play.

You can Desperate Research them into your hand. With the lower CC that's much more plausible than for the rats.
Since it's a cleric, it works with Dark Supplicant
Sphinx of the Chimes would be an alternative to Thrumming Stone

[DragoFireheart]

Let's start!

There are better ways in Legacy to cheat Griselbrand into play, but it's an interesting design nonetheless:

Shadowborn Apostle :b:
Creature-Human Cleric
A deck can have any number of cards named Shadowborn Apostle.
:b:, sacrifice six creatures named Shadowborn Apostle: Search your library for a demon creature and put it onto the battlefield. Then shuffle your library.
1/1

Cute. As some have already said, should make for a fun Thrumming Stone casual deck. Or some fun Demon deck. I've been meaning to make a fun mono-black casual deck and it looks like I got my wish.

List of Demon creatures:


Griselbrand (TROLOLOLOLOL)


Abyssal Persecutor
Ravenous Demon (Archdemon of Greed)
Archdemon of Unx
Bloodgift Demon
Carnifex Demon
Defiler of Souls
Demon of Death's Gate
Demonic Hordes
Demonic Taskmaster
Demonlord of Ashmouth
Desecration Demon
Dread Cacodemon
Extractor Demon
Grinning Demon
Gutwrencher Oni
Halo Hunter
Harvester of Souls
Havoc Demon
Hellcarver Demon
Hollowborn Barghest
Illusory Demon
Infernal Denizen
Infernal Spawn of Evil
Infernal Spawn of Infernal Spawn of Evil
Kagemaro, First to Suffer
Kuro, Pitlord
Kyoki, Sanity's Eclipse
Lady Orca
Liege of the Pit
Lord of the Pit
Lord of the Void
Malfegor
Minion of Leshrac
Minion of Tevesh Szat
Mold Demon
Nefarox, Overlord of Grixis
Ob Nixilis, the Fallen
Oni of Wild Places
Painwracker Oni
Pestilence Demon
Pit Spawn
Prince of Thralls
Rakdos the Defiler
Rakdos, Lord of Riots
Razorjaw Oni
Reaper from the Abyss
Reiver Demon
Renegade Demon
Rune-Scarred Demon
Scourge of Numai
Seizan, Perverter of Truth
Shimatsu the Bloodcloaked
Silent-Blade Oni
Sol'Kanar the Swamp King
Soulcage Fiend
Spirit of the Night
Stronghold Overseer
The Wretched
Tombstalker
Treacherous Pit-Dweller
Woebringer Demon
Xathrid Demon
Yawgmoth Demon
Yukora, the Prisoner

[Koby]

3BB - Shadowborn Demon
Creature - Demon (Mythic Rare)
Flying
When Shadowborn Demon enters the battlefield, destroy target non-Demon creature.
At the beginning of your upkeep, if there are fewer than six creature cards in your graveyard, sacrifice a creature.
5/6


Sadly, still cannot kill a Baneslayer Angel. *shrug*

[Esper3k]

Sadly, still cannot kill a Baneslayer Angel. *shrug*

But at least he doesn't die to it!

I was thinking this guy may portend the reprinting of BSA. Sameish CMC (3BB vs 3WW), doesn't die to it in a fight (that 5/6 seems just too purposeful to me as opposed to the standard 5/5 or 6/6 Demon p/t), Mythic Rare just like BSA.

[slave]

Let's start!

There are better ways in Legacy to cheat Griselbrand into play, but it's an interesting design nonetheless:

Shadowborn Apostle :b:
Creature-Human Cleric
A deck can have any number of cards named Shadowborn Apostle.
:b:, sacrifice six creatures named Shadowborn Apostle: Search your library for a demon creature and put it onto the battlefield. Then shuffle your library.
1/1

If you can Desperate Research etc. a few clerics into your hand, Edgewalker gets them into play for nothing, and Rotlung Reanimator generates creature advantage when you sac your clerics. (Rotling also has VERY fitting art for a demon deck!)
I doubt it's anything but casual fare, but I like Shadowborn Apostle for a demon deck multiplayer deck, especially with Grave Pact etc etc.

[DragoFireheart]

If you can Desperate Research etc. a few clerics into your hand, Edgewalker gets them into play for nothing, and Rotlung Reanimator generates creature advantage when you sac your clerics. (Rotling also has VERY fitting art for a demon deck!)
I doubt it's anything but casual fare, but I like Shadowborn Apostle for a demon deck multiplayer deck, especially with Grave Pact etc etc.

Edgewalker + the new clerics + Grislebanned seems pretty neat.

[jjjoness']

Actually Griselbrand isn't that broken with the new guy. I mean all you draw into is what, more Clerics :D? Ofc you could then cheat another big fat demon into play...

[DragoFireheart]

Actually Griselbrand isn't that broken with the new guy. I mean all you draw into is what, more Clerics :D? Ofc you could then cheat another big fat demon into play...

With Edgewalker, you can easily dump another demon into play after getting Grislebrand. Or just play a Thrumming stone and keep drawing and dropping Apostle's until they're all 20/20s and just swing.

Use this shell:


3 Griselbrand
4 Edgewalker
4 Thrumming Stone
27 Shadowborn Apostle

22 Lands

[countorlandea]

none of these demons provide a win now state, unless you can dig up like 4 spirit of the nights and attack directly?

its way too vulnerable to creature removal.

[DragoFireheart]

none of these demons provide a win now state, unless you can dig up like 4 spirit of the nights and attack directly?

its way too vulnerable to creature removal.

Should win a few casual table top games.

[rufus]

Spirit of the Night is legendary.

Also, the apostles don't automatically go to 20/20 (though having 20 on the table is pretty brutal anyway).

I wonder if there's a line of play through Rune-Scarred Demon and Last-Ditch Effort or Grapeshot

[Pastorofmuppets]

spirit of the night is legendary.

Also, the apostles don't automatically go to 20/20 (though having 20 on the table is pretty brutal anyway).

I wonder if there's a line of play through rune-scarred demon and last-ditch effort or grapeshot

Clericstorm sounds like a great idea. I think I have a new joke deck.

[.dk]

Actually Griselbrand isn't that broken with the new guy. I mean all you draw into is what, more Clerics :D? Ofc you could then cheat another big fat demon into play...

Know what else is a Cleric? Children of Korlis!

[nitewolf9]

Know what else is a Cleric? Children of Korlis!

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