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Krieg
07-04-2013, 07:47 PM
As emailed to the list a couple weeks ago,
Knight Ware Inc in Studio City, CA is holding its next Sanctioned Legacy tournament on Sunday August 4, 2013 at 1:00 PM
(If you want to be on the email list for future announcements, let me know)

This will be one of our Fixed Prize Legacy events.
(Dual/Fetch pairs)
Start time will be 1:00 PM and REL will be REL Competitive

sign up on facebook here (https://www.facebook.com/events/147097385488739/)

Kevin Long (L2) has agreed to head judge
If anyone else wants to help floor judge, please contact me

Entry Fee $20 if paid before 12:30 PM (we open at 11 am)
after 12:30 PM $25
I have seats / table space for 70 players.
Please show up early if you can

Current Prize Pool (duals are revised)
1x Badlands EX and 1x Bloodstained Mire EX+
1x Bayou EX and 1x Verdant Catacombs NM-
1x Plateau NM and 1x Arid Mesa NM
1x Savannah EX and 1x Windswept Heath NM-
1x Scrubland EX and 1x Marsh Flats NM-
1x Taiga NM- and 1x Wooded Foothills NM-
1x Tropical Island EX and 1x Misty Rainforest NM
1x Tundra EX and 1x Flooded Strand EX+
1x Underground Sea EX & 1x Polluted Delta EX signed
1x Volcanic Island EX+ and 1x Scalding Tarn NM
1x Wasteland EX
1x Liliana of the Veil EX
1x MM Vendilion Clique NM


http://www.knight-ware.com/legacyprizes/08_04_2013_72.jpg (http://www.knight-ware.com/legacyprizes/08_04_2013_300.jpg)

Prizes will be based on attendance
8-24 people prizes to top 4 only (we may do a swiss + 1 at this level)
25-32 people prizes to top 8
33-47 top 9
48-54 top 10
55-59 top 10 and 1 random
60+ top 10 and 2 randoms


Where
Knight Ware Inc.
3709 Cahuenga Blvd. West
Studio City, CA. 91604
(818) 769-7830
http://www.knight-ware.com

When
Sunday August 4, 2013
Store opens at 11 AM
Registration anytime after that and before 1:00 PM
(casual play before the tourney is most welcome, bring your EDH, vintage, etc.)
Tournament at 1:00 PM
Entry Fee $20 if paid before 12:30 PM (we open at 11 am)
after 12:30 PM $25
I have seats / table space for 70 players.
Please show up early if you can


Format:
Legacy
REL is REL Competitive
Decklists Required (http://www.knight-ware.com/DecklistConstructed.new.pdf)
8-23 players, we may do a swiss + 1 with no cut
24-32 players, 5 rounds cut T8
33-64 players 6 rounds cut T8
65-71 players 7 rounds cut T8
first place, first pick, second place, second pick and so on
WER (Wizards Event Reporter) standings just prior to the cut will be used to determine 3rd/4th and 5th-8th

[Parking
Parking is the main reason most of our larger events are on Sundays
Behind the store there are numbered spaces, #1 to #11
Starting from the left,

Spaces #1, # 2 and #3 are for Universal Cycles
They are closed on Sunday, OK to park there

Spaces #4, #5 and #6 are vacant as of the writing of this post but that MAY CHANGE,
I will update if that happens

Spaces #7 and #8 (either side of the telephone/power pole belong to Sun Cafe
DON'T park there

Spaces #9, #10, and belong to us - Knight Ware, OK to park there

The streets are metered but not checked on Sundays
The first street to the west of us is Lankersheim Blvd..
On Lankersheim to the south there is unregulated street parking
Just west of Lankersheim (north side of the street) is an open lot that says
additional MTA parking. It does not get used much on the weekends
unless the hollywood bowl is running something and then there should be signs

any questions, post, call or email me
thanks


Lori Saul
Knight Ware Inc.

Hi De Ho Gaming
07-15-2013, 04:44 AM
People Affiliated with KW have asked us to move our Legacy $500 off of Sunday August the 4th. KW had previously solicited the date and also posted on their previous tournament announcements. And due to parking constraints are best suited for bigger tournaments on Sunday.

We have a Magic Event Schedule for Saturday the 3rd and we could fit the Legacy in but we would need help from a Judge since our judges will all be occupied.

A few questions:

Heres the prize support:
The Legacy, Grand Prize $250, 2nd $125, 3/4 $50 5~8 $25 (entry fee $20)

#1 Is there enough general interest to do two Legacy tournaments in the same weekend.
#2 Can someone volunteer to judge.
#3 Would (you the reader) come to a Saturday August 3rd Legacy event at Hi De Ho Santa Monica.

Sincerely HDH Gaming.

Goin Aggro
07-15-2013, 07:01 AM
People Affiliated with KW have asked us to move our Legacy $500 off of Sunday August the 4th. KW had previously solicited the date and also posted on their previous tournament announcements. And due to parking constraints are best suited for bigger tournaments on Sunday.

We have a Magic Event Schedule for Saturday the 3rd and we could fit the Legacy in but we would need help from a Judge since our judges will all be occupied.

A few questions:

Heres the prize support:
The Legacy, Grand Prize $250, 2nd $125, 3/4 $50 5~8 $25 (entry fee $20)

#1 Is there enough general interest to do two Legacy tournaments in the same weekend.
#2 Can someone volunteer to judge.
#3 Would (you the reader) come to a Saturday August 3rd Legacy event at Hi De Ho Santa Monica.

Sincerely HDH Gaming.

#1 - This one is hard to answer. There is a dual-event weekend coming up with MTGDeals Legacy on Saturday and Card Addiction's Legacy on Sunday, so you could use it as a bellwether for weekend event stamina. But this also depends on a lot of other factors, including prize payout, store loyalty, and perceived/estimated interest.

As my .02, I don't know whether it's going to be worth my time to drive out to Santa Monica and play out 5 or 6 rounds along with T8 with the very real possibility of only netting +$5. I also acknowledge that it's hard for stores to start these event series up, and I definitely try to support these events when they come up, but the better the prize is, the easier it is for me to justify coming out, regardless of the date and time.

#2 - I do not know.

#3 - Possibly, leaning towards yes.

walker
07-15-2013, 01:14 PM
@hideho that prize payout looks pathetic. If you are going to do fixed prize take a look at any of lori's fixed prize payouts, or at mtg deals' fixed cash prize tournament from july 6th, that was $30 entry. If you don't want to commit to a decent fixed prize to top 8 then offer 90-100% of the entry fees. If you have decent cards in stock you can pay out in store credit so it's guaranteed sales for you (if you do store credit pay out 100% of entry fees) With so many legacy events in socal maybe we are spoiled as players but you must work on giving a good incentive to draw the legacy crowd, especially on a weekend with other legacy events going on.

@lori- can't wait for this!

Hi De Ho Gaming
07-15-2013, 02:44 PM
Thank you for the feedback Walker.

Our Average turn-out for Legacy is 18-24, so our prizes are based on that ($500 prize pool with $20 buy in seems reasonable?).

The last 3 tournaments we held had the following prize support and attendance
Ancestral Recall-16 people Kurt/Robbi Split
Mox Sapphire & Mana Drain 19 people Kurt/Caleb split
Mox Emerald 27 people Ryan/Koby Split



My purpose of this post was to reach out outside of our legacy scene around our store if anybody else really cared or wanted stores to put on more legacy tournaments. And also in response to KW people asking us to move it, (if it's worth even moving.)

Ultimately it's the legacy players who set the standard of where they want to play and what they want to play for. Obviously attendance is the best measure short of that it's forums like these that give us a chance to at least discuss it and find out what the optimal balance of tournaments, locations and prizes are.

Koby
07-15-2013, 03:06 PM
There are only a finite amount of Legacy players in LA. Booking events on the same day as other stores will result in both events being smaller than they could potentially be when working to find a non conflicting day. Obviously this is tricky as each store has its own schedule and there are so many stores in the region.

If we can all work together that would give most stores the opportunity to have the Legacy crowd migrate around to each of the stores. Also the tournaments will likely draw more new comers based on the merits of the tournament offering.

I wouldn't recommend double booking against Knight Ware however, since the crowd there is highly loyal to the store and will attend Lori's events even if the other store provide better prizes.

@ Hi De Ho Comics
Hosting the event on Saturday might be a good solution if the weekend has already been booked. I suggest you open a new thread with your event details so it has visibility and players can address the scheduling concerns. If non-local players don't know about the event there is a small likelihood the event will draw a big attendance. Good luck!

walker
07-15-2013, 05:36 PM
@hideho- It seems reasonable if you want to keep having small events.

Krieg
07-20-2013, 07:39 PM
added prize list and facebook link to original post

Dual/Fetch pairs

just over 2 weeks to go, who wants 'em

Krieg
07-31-2013, 09:50 PM
This Sunday

The second Air Conditioner has been installed and it works great.

Goin Aggro
08-05-2013, 10:00 PM
How did the event go?

Are you going to post decklists/T8 and meta breakdown?

Koby
08-05-2013, 10:02 PM
How did the event go?

Are you going to post decklists/T8 and meta breakdown?

They're usually posted within a few days. There were 54 players.

Krieg
08-06-2013, 08:32 PM
How did the event go?

Are you going to post decklists/T8 and meta breakdown?


Many thanks to the 54 of you who showed up for this.
(Next up for us will be a store credit legacy on 9/8/2013)

This is the who got what post with meta and decklists to follow at the bottom.
(Apologies in advance if I mistyped anything)

Prizes to the top 10

Location: Knight Ware Inc. Studio City, CA.
Dual / Fetch Pairs
Date: August 4, 2013
Format: Legacy
Players: 54

1st Joe Lossett [Miracles] got 1x Underground Sea EX+ & 1x Polluted Delta EX
2nd Matthew Teeple [Maverick] got 1x Tundra EX and 1x Flooded Strand EX+
3rd Joseph Moreno [Dredge] got 1x Volcanic Island EX+ & 1x Scalding Tarn NM
4th Jacob Kory [Sneak and Show] got 1x Tropical Island EX and 1x Misty Rainforest
5th David Lam [UWr Miracles] got 1x Savannah EX and 1x Windswept Heath NM-
6th Danny Batterman [UWr Miracles] got 1x Bayou EX and 1x Verdant Catacombs NM-
7th Mike Hadley [Goblins] got 1x Taiga NM- and 1x Wooded Foothills NM-
8th Gabe Rabin got 1x Scrubland EX and 1x Marsh Flats NM-
9th Jack Colwell [UWB Miracles] got 1x Badlands EX and 1x Bloodstained Mire EX+
10th Kyle Picco [Death and Taxes] got 1x Plateau NM and 1x Arid Mesa NM


the rest
11th Death and Taxes
12th Junk
13th Jund
14th Sneak and Show
15th ANT
16th UWR Tempo
17th UWR Tempo
18th UWR Tempo
19th MUD
20th Elves
21st Junk
22nd UWB Blade
23rd BUG Delver
24th Cabal Tendrils
25th Maverick
26th UR Delver
27th Canadian Thresh
28th Burning ANT
29th Death and Taxes
30th UWB Blace
31st Death and Taxes
32nd Shardless BUG
33rd Reanimator
34th Omni Halls
35th Omni Halls
36th Sneak and Show
37th Miracles
38th Merfolk
39th UWR Tempo
40th MUD
41st Dredge
42nd Punishing Jund
43rd Death and Taxes
44th Belcher
45th Aggro Loam
46th Maverick
47th Jund
48th Canadian Thresh
49th Shardless BUG
50th Belcher
51st Pox
52nd Shardless BUG
53rd Omni Halls
54th Miracles


[B]Decklists:

1st Joe Lossett [Miracles]

Main Deck
3 Vendilion Clique
1 Venser, Shaper Savant
Creature ( 4)

1 Arid Mesa
4 Flooded Strand
4 Island
2 Karakas
2 Mystic Gate
2 Plains
3 Polluted Delta
1 Scalding Tarn
2 Tundra
2 Volcanic Island
Land ( 23)

3 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
Planeswalker ( 3)

4 Brainstorm
4 Counterbalance
1 Counterspell
2 Entreat the Angels
1 Flusterstorm
3 Force Of Will
1 Misdirection
1 Rest in Peace
4 Sensei's Divining Top
2 Spell Pierce
1 Supreme Verdict
3 Swords To Plowshares
3 Terminus
Other ( 30)

qty: 60

Sideboard
2 Engineered Explosives
1 Entreat the Angels
1 Flusterstorm
2 Misdirection
1 Pithing Needle
1 Pyroblast
2 Red Elemental Blast
2 Rest in Peace
1 Sulfur Elemental
1 Venser, Shaper Savant
1 Wear // Tear
Sideboard ( 15)

qty: 15


2nd Matthew Teeple [Maverick]

Main Deck
1 Dryad Arbor
1 Gaddock Teeg
4 Knight of the Reliquary
4 Mother Of Runes
4 Noble Hierarch
2 Qasali Pridemage
2 Scavenging Ooze
1 Scryb Ranger
1 Sigarda, Host of Herons
2 Stoneforge Mystic
4 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
1 Thrun, the Last Troll
Creature ( 27)

1 Cavern of Souls
2 Forest
1 Gaea's Cradle
2 Horizon Canopy
1 Karakas
1 Maze Of Ith
1 Misty Rainforest
1 Plains
3 Savannah
1 Verdant Catacombs
4 Wasteland
4 Windswept Heath
Land ( 22)

1 Elspeth, Knight-Errant
Planeswalker ( 1)

4 Green Sun's Zenith
1 Sword of Light and Shadow
4 Swords To Plowshares
1 Sylvan Library
1 Umezawa's Jitte
Other ( 11)

qty: 61

Sideboard
2 Armageddon
1 Bojuka Bog
2 Ethersworn Canonist
1 Krosan Grip
1 Life from the Loam
2 Oblivion Ring
2 Path to Exile
1 Phyrexian Revoker
2 Rest in Peace
1 Wilt-Leaf Liege
Sideboard ( 15)

qty: 15


3rd Joseph Moreno [Dredge]

Main Deck
4 Golgari Grave-Troll
4 Golgari Thug
4 Ichorid
4 Narcomoeba
4 Putrid Imp
4 Stinkweed Imp
Creature ( 24)

4 Cephalid Coliseum
4 City Of Brass
4 Gemstone Mine
Land ( 12)

3 Breakthrough
4 Bridge from Below
4 Cabal Therapy
4 Careful Study
1 Dread Return
4 Faithless Looting
4 Lion's Eye Diamond
Other ( 24)

qty: 60

Sideboard
1 Ancient Grudge
3 Ashen Ghoul
4 Leyline of the Void
4 Nature's Claim
2 Tarnished Citadel
1 Undiscovered Paradise
Sideboard ( 15)

qty: 15


4th Jacob Kory [Sneak and Show]

Main Deck
4 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
4 Griselbrand
1 Simian Spirit Guide
Creature ( 9)

3 Ancient Tomb
2 City Of Traitors
1 Flooded Strand
3 Island
2 Misty Rainforest
1 Mountain
4 Scalding Tarn
3 Volcanic Island
Land ( 19)

4 Brainstorm
1 Flusterstorm
4 Force Of Will
2 Intuition
4 Lotus Petal
2 Misdirection
4 Ponder
1 Sensei's Divining Top
4 Show And Tell
4 Sneak Attack
2 Spell Pierce
Other ( 32)

qty: 60

Sideboard
3 Defense Grid
4 Leyline of Sanctity
2 Pyroclasm
2 Red Elemental Blast
2 Through the Breach
2 Wipe Away
Sideboard ( 15)

qty: 15


5th David Lam [UWr Miracles]

Main Deck
2 Vendilion Clique
1 Venser, Shaper Savant
Creature ( 3)

1 Arid Mesa
4 Flooded Strand
4 Island
1 Karakas
1 Mystic Gate
2 Plains
4 Scalding Tarn
3 Tundra
2 Volcanic Island
Land ( 22)

3 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
Planeswalker ( 3)

4 Brainstorm
3 Counterbalance
1 Detention Sphere
2 Enlightened Tutor
2 Entreat the Angels
3 Force Of Will
1 Helm Of Obedience
1 Misdirection
3 Rest in Peace
4 Sensei's Divining Top
2 Spell Pierce
3 Swords To Plowshares
3 Terminus
Other ( 32)

qty: 60

Sideboard
1 Blood Moon
1 Counterbalance
1 Engineered Explosives
1 Entreat the Angels
1 Ethersworn Canonist
1 Flusterstorm
2 Misdirection
1 Pithing Needle
1 Pyroblast
2 Red Elemental Blast
1 Seal Of Cleansing
1 Terminus
1 Wear // Tear
Sideboard ( 15)

qty: 15


6th Danny Batterman [UWr Miracles]

Main Deck
3 Vendilion Clique
1 Venser, Shaper Savant
Creature ( 4)

1 Arid Mesa
4 Flooded Strand
2 Karakas
2 Mystic Gate
2 Plains
3 Scalding Tarn
5 Snow-Covered Island
2 Tundra
2 Volcanic Island
Land ( 23)

3 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
Planeswalker ( 3)

4 Brainstorm
4 Counterbalance
2 Counterspell
4 Entreat the Angels
1 Flusterstorm
3 Force Of Will
1 Rest in Peace
4 Sensei's Divining Top
2 Spell Pierce
1 Supreme Verdict
4 Swords To Plowshares
Other ( 30)

qty: 60

Sideboard
2 Engineered Explosives
1 Ethersworn Canonist
1 Flusterstorm
3 Misdirection
1 Pyroblast
2 Red Elemental Blast
2 Rest in Peace
1 Supreme Verdict
1 Venser, Shaper Savant
1 Wear // Tear
Sideboard ( 15)

qty: 15


7th Mike Hadley [Goblins]

Main Deck
3 Gempalm Incinerator
1 Goblin Chieftain
4 Goblin Lackey
4 Goblin Matron
4 Goblin Piledriver
4 Goblin Ringleader
1 Goblin Sharpshooter
3 Goblin Warchief
1 Krenko, Mob Boss
2 Mogg War Marshal
1 Siege-Gang Commander
1 Skirk Prospector
2 Stingscourger
1 Tuktuk Scrapper
Creature ( 32)

4 Arid Mesa
4 Cavern of Souls
5 Mountain
4 Rishadan Port
4 Wasteland
3 Wooded Foothills
Land ( 24)

4 AEther Vial
Other ( 4)

qty: 60

Sideboard
1 Boartusk Liege
2 Chalice of the Void
3 Mindbreak Trap
3 Pyrokinesis
2 Red Elemental Blast
3 Relic of Progenitus
1 Thorn of Amethyst
Sideboard ( 15)

qty: 15


8th Gabe Rabin [BUG Delver]

Main Deck
4 Deathrite Shaman
4 Delver of Secrets
4 Tarmogoyf
2 Tombstalker
Creature ( 14)

2 Bayou
2 Misty Rainforest
3 Polluted Delta
1 Tropical Island
4 Underground Sea
4 Verdant Catacombs
4 Wasteland
Land ( 20)

4 Abrupt Decay
4 Brainstorm
4 Daze
1 Dismember
4 Force Of Will
4 Hymn To Tourach
4 Ponder
1 Sylvan Library
Other ( 26)

qty: 60

Sideboard
2 Disfigure
1 Grafdigger's Cage
1 Life from the Loam
1 Liliana of the Veil
1 Maelstrom Pulse
1 Nihil Spellbomb
1 Pithing Needle
3 Submerge
1 Sylvan Library
2 Thoughtseize
1 Vendilion Clique
Sideboard ( 15)

qty: 15

TiltingKitty
08-06-2013, 11:45 PM
In the Maverick player's sideboard, "1 Bojuka Bog" is listed three times in a row.

Krieg
08-07-2013, 03:41 PM
In the Maverick player's sideboard, "1 Bojuka Bog" is listed three times in a row.

Fixed I think.
Thanks for the heads up