Sort of quitting Legacy, what deck(s) should I not sell?

[Madmankevinx]

I'm at that point in magic where I have basically every card ever printed and can make basically every Legacy deck possible. No I'm not exaggerating. I am getting to that point in my life where I have grown up things happening and need to raise funds for grown up things. My dilemma is this: I want to keep a few core cards so I can still attend random weekly events when I have time. I am going to keep my foil T.E.S. deck and probably UB Tezzeret because I love Chalice that much lol. Aside from those two decks/cards for them, what current deck do you all see staying relevant for the long haul? I figure either Rug/Burg or esperblade-ish will be around for a couple more years but I really need to raise some funds so I can't afford to keep everything! What are your opinions?

On a side note, besides EBay(which I despise) where is a good place to sell cards to other players? I prefer to deal with players like the folks on this forum since we are mostly trustworthy, but there are no classifieds on this site :(

[goblinsplayer]

If you're looking for something that will stay around for a long time, rug is a fine choice.

[Finn]

Max, if it is time to "put away those young boy ways", first off, you know what ancient song that is. But also, you would be wise to have a long view. At every stage, Magic cards have increased in value. The game has expanded consistently. At every stage along the way people have been convinced that they were making the right decision to sell out. Every one of them. Every last person who has ever sold out has lost out on financial gain as a result. If you sell now and make a profit, you and this generation of sellers will be the first ever to do so. I started in 1994 and my collection is the most valuable thing I own by a wide margin. I'm not even a collector. I just wanted cards for decks for the past 19 years and never sold them to build the next deck.

Don't sell. It is a game that is also an investment.

[apple713]

The best way to go about this is find a list of most played cards in legacy and I would definatly keep all the cards on that list. They are timeless... I think the top couple cards are FOW brainstorm island and wasteland or something.

As for decks, I would go to here -----> http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/showthread.php?5460-DTBF-Philosophy-amp-Deck-Selection/page3

brows the decks that have consistently been around and keep cards for those decks.

I am in a similar situation to you. I have had a lot of fun playing the game and I'm trying t downsize my collection cause i just have a bunch of crap that I dont use. I've decided to sell all the complete sets i never look at, all my beta cards I dont use. My excess power, and my 7 5000 count boxes of commons and uncommons.

I'll still have everyting i need for legacy and stuff for modern but the other stuff is crap i dont use regularly. In my situation i'll be buying pimp versions of legacy staples. You will be be using it to spend on adult stuff.

[samurai_socks]

I'm at that point in magic where I have basically every card ever printed and can make basically every Legacy deck possible. No I'm not exaggerating. I am getting to that point in my life where I have grown up things happening and need to raise funds for grown up things. My dilemma is this: I want to keep a few core cards so I can still attend random weekly events when I have time. I am going to keep my foil T.E.S. deck and probably UB Tezzeret because I love Chalice that much lol. Aside from those two decks/cards for them, what current deck do you all see staying relevant for the long haul? I figure either Rug/Burg or esperblade-ish will be around for a couple more years but I really need to raise some funds so I can't afford to keep everything! What are your opinions?

On a side note, besides EBay(which I despise) where is a good place to sell cards to other players? I prefer to deal with players like the folks on this forum since we are mostly trustworthy, but there are no classifieds on this site :(

I would keep RUG, BUGr, Esper Blade and ANT/TES.

UB Tez is actually a good one to get rid of just because there are so many cards that are only used in that deck. Between RUG/BUGr/ESPERBLADE/ANT/TES you have a lot of over lapping of duals and just good cards. Your city of traitors and ancient tombs just arent that good in any other decks.

-Cheers-

[lochlan]

It is a game that is also an investment.

How many investors do you know that hoard their stocks? Investments are meant to be eventually sold. Buying magic cards is hardly an investment if you plan to keep them until you die.

@OP: Nobody can predict what decks will be successful in the future, it depends on future printings. You mentioned that you thought RUG would probably continue to be good, but the fact is that Canadian Threshold wouldn't be so good in the current format if it wasn't for Delver of Secrets. And just look at how much Abrupt Decay and Deathrite altered the face of the format! Future printings and format shifts will change what decks are good, every long-time player can attest that the format is cyclical.

The only way to make sure you stay relevant is to have a variety of different decks, as you already do. If you want to sell out, great, but you're potentially giving up the possibility of having "the best deck" in the future. IMO owning the whole format and "meta-gaming" is the best way to approach the format as a serious tournament player, which is why so many serious players I know have such huge and complete collections. I suspect that you know this on some level and are trying to hedge your bets while still selling out--but that's only going to work if you get lucky.

My advice, if you must sell, is to keep 2-3 decks you really like playing and forget about what you think might be good. Sounds like TES and Tezz.dec are those lists for you, so maybe just figure out what else you like and keep one more?

As for selling, I move my extra cards and specs on TCG Player, but fees are going to kill you no matter where you go. If you sell in a forum setting, prices will be lower, so it evens out. If I were selling out I would just put English cards on TCG Player, foreign cards on eBay, and try trading locally to upgrade smaller stuff into bigger reserved-list stuff so that you have an easier time moving it.

Good luck.

[apple713]

How many investors do you know that hoard their stocks? Investments are meant to be eventually sold. Buying magic cards is hardly an investment if you plan to keep them until you die.

@OP: Nobody can predict what decks will be successful in the future, it depends on future printings. You mentioned that you thought RUG would probably continue to be good, but the fact is that Canadian Threshold wouldn't be so good in the current format if it wasn't for Delver of Secrets. And just look at how much Abrupt Decay and Deathrite altered the face of the format! Future printings and format shifts will change what decks are good, every long-time player can attest that the format is cyclical.

The only way to make sure you stay relevant is to have a variety of different decks, as you already do. If you want to sell out, great, but you're potentially giving up the possibility of having "the best deck" in the future. IMO owning the whole format and "meta-gaming" is the best way to approach the format as a serious tournament player, which is why so many serious players I know have such huge and complete collections. I suspect that you know this on some level and are trying to hedge your bets while still selling out--but that's only going to work if you get lucky.

My advice, if you must sell, is to keep 2-3 decks you really like playing and forget about what you think might be good. Sounds like TES and Tezz.dec are those lists for you, so maybe just figure out what else you like and keep one more?

As for selling, I move my extra cards and specs on TCG Player, but fees are going to kill you no matter where you go. If you sell in a forum setting, prices will be lower, so it evens out. If I were selling out I would just put English cards on TCG Player, foreign cards on eBay, and try trading locally to upgrade smaller stuff into bigger reserved-list stuff so that you have an easier time moving it.

Good luck.

I would beg to differ. Some decks only get better in time. Consider Show and tell / Sneak attack. The only thing they could print that would make these cards not a choice for a tier deck is something better than Show and tell? really for 1 blue cast any card in your hand... it wont happen.

Pick cards that have incredibly high powerlevels that wont get a better printing. Aggro decks usually evolve a lot because creatures often get better choices in new printings. Creatues dont typically break the format when cast and they have greater diversity and more free range in their design. Sneak attack is something that wont go out of style As long as they keep printing huge beastly creatures. Same with S&T.


Oh yeah, if you want to make he decision really easy, keep your playsets of dual lands, fetch lands, fow, LED, JTMS.... everything else is fairly cheap and if you decide to get back in you have the most expensive cards already. Mana is unfortunatly the necessary evil of MTG

[nedleeds]

Sell the non-reserved list cards. Keep the reserved list cards.

[ahg113]

Sell the non-reserved list cards. Keep the reserved list cards.

+1, keeping a few exceptions such as FoW, Wasteland- a few of the cards that could be reprinted, but haven't yet and don't seem likely to be reprinted. Thoughtseize is on the opposite end of this spectrum as a sell now, because it most likely will be reprinted soon.

[jandax]

+2

If anything, keep your most treasured mana base and reserve list cards. Make it a project to piece off the rest to people you preferably know and trust, local or internet. If your collection is what it should seem to be (after all this time) the stuff that you keep would be as valuable as the stuff you sell off, and all the while probably enough to fund your more adult endeavors.

[lochlan]

If he keeps all the valuable cards he isn't exactly selling out.

[Megadeus]

Id keep the decks that I enjoy playing. If you are selling out then you obviously arent a serious tournament type.

[nedleeds]

I would prefer an over all end to I'm quitting threads actually. Just leave.

[Madmankevinx]

I would prefer an over all end to I'm quitting threads actually. Just leave.

Somebody's daddy didn't love them...

[troopatroop]

I think you should decide how much $$ you need to raise. Selling valuable mtg cards, like others have said, will always be a losing gamble. If you need 3k, then sell 3k worth. That is truly the best advice...

... and as I say that, I reflect on the cost of Duals and Fetches, and reel at how valuable they are. Can they really go up much more? I suppose they could, but the "cardboardity" of them is so deceiving...

[Dan Turner]

There are only 3 reasons to sell out.

1.) You are about to lose your home or something else extreme.

2.) The abolish the reserve list (Sell and then re-buy later)

3.) You are done with magic forever.

I only sell when I have too much junk that I need to get rid of it. I am almost to that point again. When we moved to this house I had 37 of the large white 6 row boxes of commons/uncommons and 3 of them with rares. I took all 40 pulled out anything playable and dumped the rest as bulk. used the cash to buy some playable higher end cards. Kinda regret the bulking out of a bunch of rares pre-Modern/EDH some of them have hit stupid prices recently.

I am getting up there again from buying collections all the time but it is getting harder to decide what is junk and not since a print of a single card can take a .10c rare and spike it like a football player after a touchdown.


TL;DR

In the end it boils down to your personal preference, I would say toss it back in a closet and revisit it in 5 years.

[Bed Decks Palyer]

I am getting to that point in my life where I have grown up things happening and need to raise funds for grown up things. My dilemma is this: I want to keep a few core cards so I can still attend random weekly events when I have time.
Welcome to the club.

Before anything else, you need to understand two things. First: "magic cards is hardly an investment if you plan to keep them until you die." Second: you're dealing with a drug. Now, anyone offended by this statement may stop reading, or at least resist the urge to comment: I won't discuss this. But like it or not, Magic is drug. From what experiences I got in my life with the drug addicts, they all happen to collerate with an everyday MtG player.

Flattened personality? Check.
Unable to think of anything else than his drug? Check.
Spending lots of time and money on his drug? Check.
Love-hate relationship to his drug? Check.
Continue using the substance although he's fed up of it? Check.
Increasing dosage over time? Check.

If your only concern is to get some money to pay for this and that, then just sell something and don't ask us what to sell. Nobody's going to tell you if it'll be a good decision, because every deck you keep might be nerfed some time in a future. But if the OP is more of a call for help, then you're on a wrong address. We, the addicts, can't help you. You won't be visiting a junkie to learn how to quit heroin.

So, if you really wish to quit, there's no "sorta quit" or "reduce dose" or "use it just on weekends". The only reliable way is to quit completely. Sell all your stuff - and I mean ALL, no bottles hidden under the bed, no weed in the back corner of your garden - and never look back. There's nothing like "you'll lost money because cards would gain value over years". You'll sell one crap just to buy another one. You'll keep the three or four (but more realistically five or more) decks, because "their duals, they overlap" and "this one I keep in case RUG would be badly positioned" and of course "this one I kep coz I got it fully pimped", and the evergreen "I won't throw this away, becuse except for Bridges there are zero money cards in it" and all that stuff. But this way you won't move anywhere. You must completely quit.

Accept the fact that you maybe need a help. Ok, it's not like you have to visit a specialist, but rather explain to your wife that you're going to lose something that was a great part of a great part of your life and that you're going to sacrifice it for her. And that in return you need her help. Find a hobby you may share, etc., anything that helps you get over the cold turkey.

And of course, cut all the links to the old life. No more tournaments, no more EDH, no more pimp threads, no more MtG sites, no more Ebay hunts - in short: no more of that junkie crap.

Good luck.

[apple713]

Welcome to the club.

Before anything else, you need to understand two things. First: "magic cards is hardly an investment if you plan to keep them until you die." Second: you're dealing with a drug. Now, anyone offended by this statement may stop reading, or at least resist the urge to comment: I won't discuss this. But like it or not, Magic is drug. From what experiences I got in my life with the drug addicts, they all happen to collerate with an everyday MtG player.

Flattened personality? Check.
Unable to think of anything else than his drug? Check.
Spending lots of time and money on his drug? Check.
Love-hate relationship to his drug? Check.
Continue using the substance although he's fed up of it? Check.
Increasing dosage over time? Check.

If your only concern is to get some money to pay for this and that, then just sell something and don't ask us what to sell. Nobody's going to tell you if it'll be a good decision, because every deck you keep might be nerfed some time in a future. But if the OP is more of a call for help, then you're on a wrong address. We, the addicts, can't help you. You won't be visiting a junkie to learn how to quit heroin.

So, if you really wish to quit, there's no "sorta quit" or "reduce dose" or "use it just on weekends". The only reliable way is to quit completely. Sell all your stuff - and I mean ALL, no bottles hidden under the bed, no weed in the back corner of your garden - and never look back. There's nothing like "you'll lost money because cards would gain value over years". You'll sell one crap just to buy another one. You'll keep the three or four (but more realistically five or more) decks, because "their duals, they overlap" and "this one I keep in case RUG would be badly positioned" and of course "this one I kep coz I got it fully pimped", and the evergreen "I won't throw this away, becuse except for Bridges there are zero money cards in it" and all that stuff. But this way you won't move anywhere. You must completely quit.

Accept the fact that you maybe need a help. Ok, it's not like you have to visit a specialist, but rather explain to your wife that you're going to lose something that was a great part of a great part of your life and that you're going to sacrifice it for her. And that in return you need her help. Find a hobby you may share, etc., anything that helps you get over the cold turkey.

And of course, cut all the links to the old life. No more tournaments, no more EDH, no more pimp threads, no more MtG sites, no more Ebay hunts - in short: no more of that junkie crap.

Good luck.

intersting way of putting it. I've heard it compared to drugs before. Thats probably accurate. Obviously if oyu plan to keep them forever theres no investment part unless you use them to win tournaments. I'll probably pass my collection to my kids

[Mr Miagi]

Welcome to the club.

Before anything else, you need to understand two things. First: "magic cards is hardly an investment if you plan to keep them until you die." Second: you're dealing with a drug. Now, anyone offended by this statement may stop reading, or at least resist the urge to comment: I won't discuss this. But like it or not, Magic is drug. From what experiences I got in my life with the drug addicts, they all happen to collerate with an everyday MtG player.

Flattened personality? Check.
Unable to think of anything else than his drug? Check.
Spending lots of time and money on his drug? Check.
Love-hate relationship to his drug? Check.
Continue using the substance although he's fed up of it? Check.
Increasing dosage over time? Check.

If your only concern is to get some money to pay for this and that, then just sell something and don't ask us what to sell. Nobody's going to tell you if it'll be a good decision, because every deck you keep might be nerfed some time in a future. But if the OP is more of a call for help, then you're on a wrong address. We, the addicts, can't help you. You won't be visiting a junkie to learn how to quit heroin.

So, if you really wish to quit, there's no "sorta quit" or "reduce dose" or "use it just on weekends". The only reliable way is to quit completely. Sell all your stuff - and I mean ALL, no bottles hidden under the bed, no weed in the back corner of your garden - and never look back. There's nothing like "you'll lost money because cards would gain value over years". You'll sell one crap just to buy another one. You'll keep the three or four (but more realistically five or more) decks, because "their duals, they overlap" and "this one I keep in case RUG would be badly positioned" and of course "this one I kep coz I got it fully pimped", and the evergreen "I won't throw this away, becuse except for Bridges there are zero money cards in it" and all that stuff. But this way you won't move anywhere. You must completely quit.

Accept the fact that you maybe need a help. Ok, it's not like you have to visit a specialist, but rather explain to your wife that you're going to lose something that was a great part of a great part of your life and that you're going to sacrifice it for her. And that in return you need her help. Find a hobby you may share, etc., anything that helps you get over the cold turkey.

And of course, cut all the links to the old life. No more tournaments, no more EDH, no more pimp threads, no more MtG sites, no more Ebay hunts - in short: no more of that junkie crap.

Good luck.


Dear admins,

I urge you to ad a like feature button for this forum.

Totally agree with everything above. If you quite you quit, if you put something behind.. then u'r still hooked and will likely spend ludicrus amount of oney rebuying new collection in some point in the future.

Also, We should have only one thread for this kind of topcis.. they spam up way to often and we could ahve it all civilised kept in one thread.

[Quasim0ff]

Keep the reserved list cards, forces as well as goyf/bobs/jaces/whatever 100$+ card you have.

Magic never goes down in price, so just keep the core cards.

(sell all non-blue duals, though)

[Sloshthedark]

Welcome to the club...

*clap* *clap* *clap*...

[Bed Decks Palyer]

*clap* *clap* *clap*...

:cool:

What's your plan for Thursday evening? Gotta snort some subsANTce?